Everyone is not the same, if a buyer wants it, it's worth more to them. We're all different, a garage does not add value to a house to me, as I abhor driving.
What happens, unfortunately, is the appraiser won't appraise it +$30k , so buyer can't get a loan for asking price. If you elect to put your house on market for +$30k over appraisal you've doomed yourself to be in a pool little interested parties that, now, must be cash buyers. That move alone probably costs $30k.
Now you can always sit on a home and demand more than it appraises for, but real estate agents hate putting time into those homes. Why? Because its a lot of work and they dont sell. There are ways to do for sale by owner, but you'll want to be on the MLS. I've heard of paying a lawyer or agent a flat fee to list on MLS but haven't done it myself.
Makes sense. Know your audience. I am just planning on throwing some of those gay shits on our roof at the last second before selling in order to milk cash from leftist tards who eat that shit up in los angeles.
That way, the dumb battery pack storage monstrosity doesn't burn down my place but whoever bought it thinking it was so cool.
They won't warrant it so you pay more when it breaks and won't help offset costs if production falls off.
You still don't have power when grid goes down.
They won't get it installed in time, so you are financing, perhaps, 8 months into something you're not getting ROI on.
If you sell your house this becomes a pain point more often then not. (Lein on your house.)
You need to cut the trees down around your house for it to become most efficient.
You need to get on roof to clean them.
I suspect DIY is best way to so it (saves you 20k plus finance) or using company called SunRun seems to be a good option. Sunrun you don't own the equipment and they lock your utility bill price. But they only operate in like 5 states.
They need to have a battery backup system that feeds the house their "catch" of the day. And a system that detects when the grid dies and auto-switches. And enough panels/batteries to give you all your major needs +50% to 100% over that to account for degradation over time and/or shady days.
They won't get it installed in time, so you are financing, perhaps, 8 months into something you're not getting ROI on.
Do it yourself, or pay someone White who knows WTF they are doing. And don't finance anything, that's just paying jews to gain power over you.
If you sell your house this becomes a pain point more often then not. (Lein on your house.)
Again, no financing. And this isn't something to do on a place you plan to sell.
You need to cut the trees down around your house for it to become most efficient.
You don't have to place them on the house. A separate garage or barn would work, though most folk's roofs are the high point on their property. The nearby trees are usually already removed to keep them from falling on the house. Which is why most put it on the roof.
You need to get on roof to clean them.
Sure, like twice a year, if you're not lazy that is and just wait lol. Again though, it depends on where you stick the panels.
I suspect DIY is best way to do it
Yes though it heavily depends on how comfortable you are building a system that can handle it. Batteries, auto-switching, not draining the batteries back into the grid, not zapping yourself to death, zoning/electrical laws(assuming you care), etc etc.
Installing the panels is the easy part. It's all the other shit that'll catch you up.
Having said all of that, this isn't something you do to save money. It's something you do for when shit goes down and/or there's spotty power that you don't want to just deal without.
7years now going strong. 2,400sq k house runs 93% peak on panels There are tricks and tweeks you learn over time. 6 ton AC is set on 65° when its 120+° Soaks up alot of free juice. Massive savings after 2-3 weeks of killer heat.
DIY from a friend's setup. Bought a pile of shit and only paid a contractor for the final hook-up. I've upgrade swapped a few panels. Just study up on it. Small wind turbines are also worth investing in
First and foremost, it would depend upon your environment, and where your house is situated. If you are southerly facing, in an environment that gets a lot of sun, it could potentially pay dividends.
However, even if you live in a environment that gets a lot of sun, you need to think about what kinds of storms that you get as well, as dust / debris, etc.. will make them lose their efficiency.
Lastly, if you do go forward with them, be wary of many of the contractors out there, as there are plenty of scams where you are paying the fuckers off in a 20 yr. installments, when they might only last 10-15 based upon the conditions that they are put through. Also, the quality of the product as their is a lot of variance there as well.
I looked into it, but it did not make sense for my situation.
All the people saying solar panels are shit? ProTip: They don't have solar panels. These NPCs don't actually know what they are talking about. All they are doing is mindlessly parroting something someone somewhere told them at sometime.
Here's what you need to know.
Step 1: Can you put a solar panel out in the sun and plug something in to it and get electricity?
Step 2: Now run some math and ask yourself if owning your own electric company that YOU control is worth the cost of reducing your reliance on someone else to provide electricity for you.
It completely powers my sailboat, including engine. 6 200w panels. and a battery bank that's 2000 ah for the house and engine. Cooking is induction. We have a portable honda generator in case of emergency. but even with consecutive cloudy days we have not had to use it.
You unintentionally proved my point. Nowhere does this say they are "inefficient" Those numbers may look low, but that's easily 2.5x what you could get 20 years ago.
Notice the negatives don't even own panels. FFS I've got 10yrs on most of my system(9 panels) I will upgrade 3 this year and one free battery I lucked into. Google info is sketchy and subjective.
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 18:28:55 ago (+1/-0)
Solar power is an expensive backup for your house.
The panels are expensive, highly toxic, last a maximum 5-7 years regardless of what they promise you, and their capacity to generate power dwindles over time.
A battery storage system is also needed if you want power at night or in heavy cloud cover, and those are expensive, highly toxic, never last as long as promised, and dwindle storage capacity over time, also.
Remember, a warranty is as good as the company that provides you the warranty, so if you get solar, read the warranty (usually because it's pro-rated) and look into the likelihood that when you need a warranty replacement, that the company that warranties your panels might be long gone.
I did lots of research on solar about 5 years ago as consideration for my tiny home. (@550 square feet) I was unimpressed. A deisle generator and a tank of fuel is far more reliable.
I watch that last few years, but it really depends where you live, and most info you will get on websites of those who actually make them, specially their instructions about maintenance. First thing I noticed, there is great business for those who now clean installed panels, that tells you a lot, so it's good to check info about these maintenance companies.
I think I would already get them, if living in some California-like place, but for climates such is central Europe is different. For those who install solar panels in more "rural" area, I seen there are instructions one should not even put them close to barn or any source of pollen. So even if living in city, or maybe US suburbs, depends how "alive" is the area - we have zillion of birds and with that comes all normal natural insects, bees, etc, also lots of plants and trees everywhere- so if you live in nice environment, you would have to clean those panels a lot, if not every year, which would be costly if you can't do it by yourself.
Also, one should think about fire safety - if for some reason something get on fire, then I think firefighters are not able use water, but chemicals. Lots of wires in the attic means also things can happen with some cheap installation, or if it's not regularly checked.
I know only those who installed it with some huge state green subvention, so with others people money, are happy, mostly use it in summer for air conditioning... otherwise will not pay off here allegedly even after 10 or more years I was told by some. During winter get covered with snow, and not sure if one have stronger wind, or hail, what would happen. So a lot of things for consider, but for very specific areas solar may be good.
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 20:51:55 ago (+1/-0)
You need majority of days to be unclouded sunlight...250 or more is ideal (eight months of sunny days). An easy ask for southern California and the desert southwest US, but anywhere else its just an expense.
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 3 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 16:35:03 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 16:59:42 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] ghetto_shitlord
[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 19:11:30 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] ghetto_shitlord
[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 20:41:07 ago (+0/-0)
Value is in the eye of the buyer.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2023 08:42:34 ago (+0/-0)
What happens, unfortunately, is the appraiser won't appraise it +$30k , so buyer can't get a loan for asking price. If you elect to put your house on market for +$30k over appraisal you've doomed yourself to be in a pool little interested parties that, now, must be cash buyers. That move alone probably costs $30k.
Now you can always sit on a home and demand more than it appraises for, but real estate agents hate putting time into those homes. Why? Because its a lot of work and they dont sell. There are ways to do for sale by owner, but you'll want to be on the MLS. I've heard of paying a lawyer or agent a flat fee to list on MLS but haven't done it myself.
[ + ] ghetto_shitlord
[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2023 13:19:00 ago (+0/-0)
Wel not anymore, I live on a boat now. Mortgages are for suckers.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2023 14:35:15 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 20:54:55 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 20:58:13 ago (+1/-0)
I am just planning on throwing some of those gay shits on our roof at the last second before selling in order to milk cash from leftist tards who eat that shit up in los angeles.
That way, the dumb battery pack storage monstrosity doesn't burn down my place but whoever bought it thinking it was so cool.
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 21:55:33 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 22:35:40 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 4 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 16:36:53 ago (+4/-0)
They won't warrant it so you pay more when it breaks and won't help offset costs if production falls off.
You still don't have power when grid goes down.
They won't get it installed in time, so you are financing, perhaps, 8 months into something you're not getting ROI on.
If you sell your house this becomes a pain point more often then not. (Lein on your house.)
You need to cut the trees down around your house for it to become most efficient.
You need to get on roof to clean them.
I suspect DIY is best way to so it (saves you 20k plus finance) or using company called SunRun seems to be a good option. Sunrun you don't own the equipment and they lock your utility bill price. But they only operate in like 5 states.
[ + ] ghetto_shitlord
[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 19:10:04 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 20:53:19 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer2
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 23:30:54 ago (+0/-0)
They need to have a battery backup system that feeds the house their "catch" of the day. And a system that detects when the grid dies and auto-switches. And enough panels/batteries to give you all your major needs +50% to 100% over that to account for degradation over time and/or shady days.
Do it yourself, or pay someone White who knows WTF they are doing. And don't finance anything, that's just paying jews to gain power over you.
Again, no financing. And this isn't something to do on a place you plan to sell.
You don't have to place them on the house. A separate garage or barn would work, though most folk's roofs are the high point on their property. The nearby trees are usually already removed to keep them from falling on the house. Which is why most put it on the roof.
Sure, like twice a year, if you're not lazy that is and just wait lol. Again though, it depends on where you stick the panels.
Yes though it heavily depends on how comfortable you are building a system that can handle it. Batteries, auto-switching, not draining the batteries back into the grid, not zapping yourself to death, zoning/electrical laws(assuming you care), etc etc.
Installing the panels is the easy part. It's all the other shit that'll catch you up.
Having said all of that, this isn't something you do to save money. It's something you do for when shit goes down and/or there's spotty power that you don't want to just deal without.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2023 19:39:10 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 5 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 16:49:15 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood 2 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 17:21:07 ago (+3/-1)
2,400sq k house runs 93% peak on panels
There are tricks and tweeks you learn over time.
6 ton AC is set on 65° when its 120+°
Soaks up alot of free juice.
Massive savings after 2-3 weeks of killer heat.
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 20:57:48 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2023 05:26:53 ago (+0/-0)
Bought a pile of shit and only paid a contractor for the final hook-up.
I've upgrade swapped a few panels.
Just study up on it.
Small wind turbines are also worth investing in
[ + ] ParnellsUprising
[ - ] ParnellsUprising 3 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 17:37:06 ago (+3/-0)
However, even if you live in a environment that gets a lot of sun, you need to think about what kinds of storms that you get as well, as dust / debris, etc.. will make them lose their efficiency.
Lastly, if you do go forward with them, be wary of many of the contractors out there, as there are plenty of scams where you are paying the fuckers off in a 20 yr. installments, when they might only last 10-15 based upon the conditions that they are put through. Also, the quality of the product as their is a lot of variance there as well.
I looked into it, but it did not make sense for my situation.
[ + ] charliebrown_au
[ - ] charliebrown_au 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 18:12:14 ago (+0/-0)
Check out
Tiny Rocket Stoves
Black pipe Thermal hot water heating
* Compressed air roof fans, sewing machine and power tools
etc
Also check out on jewtube and odysee
Direct Solar Power (no batteries)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 18:23:40 ago (+1/-0)*
ProTip: They don't have solar panels.
These NPCs don't actually know what they are talking about.
All they are doing is mindlessly parroting something someone somewhere told them at sometime.
Here's what you need to know.
Step 1: Can you put a solar panel out in the sun and plug something in to it and get electricity?
Step 2: Now run some math and ask yourself if owning your own electric company that YOU control is worth the cost of reducing your reliance on someone else to provide electricity for you.
[ + ] ghetto_shitlord
[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 23:17:16 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] ghetto_shitlord
[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 23:21:32 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] ghetto_shitlord
[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2023 13:22:19 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2023 05:33:33 ago (+0/-0)
FFS
I've got 10yrs on most of my system(9 panels)
I will upgrade 3 this year and one free battery I lucked into.
Google info is sketchy and subjective.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 18:28:55 ago (+1/-0)
The panels are expensive, highly toxic, last a maximum 5-7 years regardless of what they promise you, and their capacity to generate power dwindles over time.
A battery storage system is also needed if you want power at night or in heavy cloud cover, and those are expensive, highly toxic, never last as long as promised, and dwindle storage capacity over time, also.
Remember, a warranty is as good as the company that provides you the warranty, so if you get solar, read the warranty (usually because it's pro-rated) and look into the likelihood that when you need a warranty replacement, that the company that warranties your panels might be long gone.
I did lots of research on solar about 5 years ago as consideration for my tiny home. (@550 square feet) I was unimpressed. A deisle generator and a tank of fuel is far more reliable.
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[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 20:14:21 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] mxcviel
[ - ] mxcviel 2 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 18:50:33 ago (+2/-0)
First thing I noticed, there is great business for those who now clean installed panels, that tells you a lot, so it's good to check info about these maintenance companies.
I think I would already get them, if living in some California-like place, but for climates such is central Europe is different. For those who install solar panels in more "rural" area, I seen there are instructions one should not even put them close to barn or any source of pollen.
So even if living in city, or maybe US suburbs, depends how "alive" is the area - we have zillion of birds and with that comes all normal natural insects, bees, etc, also lots of plants and trees everywhere- so if you live in nice environment, you would have to clean those panels a lot, if not every year, which would be costly if you can't do it by yourself.
Also, one should think about fire safety - if for some reason something get on fire, then I think firefighters are not able use water, but chemicals. Lots of wires in the attic means also things can happen with some cheap installation, or if it's not regularly checked.
I know only those who installed it with some huge state green subvention, so with others people money, are happy, mostly use it in summer for air conditioning... otherwise will not pay off here allegedly even after 10 or more years I was told by some. During winter get covered with snow, and not sure if one have stronger wind, or hail, what would happen. So a lot of things for consider, but for very specific areas solar may be good.
[ + ] ghetto_shitlord
[ - ] ghetto_shitlord 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 19:08:30 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Zyklonbeekeeper
[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 20:05:52 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2023 20:51:55 ago (+1/-0)