That was the old guidance. I dont think many people are still saying this now.
But the information is confusing. Or at least Im confused.
Trans or hydrogenated fats like margarine and veg shortening are really bad now we know, just like trans people.
Saturated fats like butter lard coconut and palm which had a bad reputation for cholesterol are now thought to be not so bad, especially for cooking. They are solid at room temp.
Monounsaturated fat and polyunsaturated fat cooking oils from plant sources, which were supposed to be really good are now considered maybe not so good depending on how much they were heated and processed with chemicals and how much omega 6 they contain.
Omega 3and 6 are polyunsaturated oils. Omega 6s are now known to promote inflamation, not so good in a ratio of much more than 3:1 with omega 3s, and for most people that ratio is 20:1 or more.
Fish are a good source of omega 3 but you have to make sure you avoid mercury. Flax and chia are a really good source of omega 3 but the oil degrades so rapidly that you cant get it to the table fast enough. Home grinding flax seeds is a pain and taste like shit. I might try chia.
Walnuts are a pretty good alternative for omega 3 but walnut oil is supposedly really bad. Macadamias also have a good omega 3 to 6 profile.
I think olive oil is still considered pretty good if cold pressed and getting oils in the natural form rather than processed is preferable. I eat alot of avocado but I think its mostly omega 6. I take an omega 3 supplement from algae oil.
American dietary information came to be in the 1960s as a way of increasing grain production during the cold War. The purpose of this was so that more grain would be produced for storage in the event of a nuclear war. The fact that 'experts' came out and said the high carb high processed food diet was healthy should be alarming to those who seem to trust everything they are taught in "school" and trust those with "higher education."
This echoes the "trust the experts" dogma during covid.
Also you're kind of retarded about plants. Cellulose fibre is a sugar sure but it's indigestible in the sense that we don't have to enzymes to break down plant fibre.
Bigger fish seem to concentrate mercury and other contaminants because of the nature of the food chain. Chunk light tuna has much less mercury than white albacore tuna because its from a smaller species, the skipkack tuna. Salmon is a large fatty fish that might tend to accumulate more contaminants (not necessarily mercury) but sardines are also fatty but small so theres a lower risk. Salmon is generally okay if its wild caught.
Very good, Helena! And here I was thinking you never listen like a typical woman. Alright, I will admit maybe you can redeem yourself a little bit with this and giving us data on human genomes.
You got most of the information right there. The only thing I would add is, olive oil should be eaten on salads or dips, not heated or cooked with. And of course, it must be cold and manually pressed, organic, and preferably mono species.
Only cook with saturated fats. I personally cook with tallow because lard has been bastardised by screwing up the pigs’ diets. I also don’t like the smell of coconut oil or ghee.
I would minimise your avocado intake too. They largely just provide omegas and vitamin E.
Also, no need to supplement omega 3 at all, it’s a pufa after all (pufa: polyunsaturated fatty acids). There’s enough data now to show omega 3s CAN oxidise faster than omega 6s. And the reason they do indeed lower inflammation is by literally lowering your immune system’s effectiveness. It’s not a good idea in the long run. There are other things to lower inflammation such as turmeric and black pepper and black seeds. I am still studying these in depth, but black seeds are looking phenomenal, I have started taking them in the mornings. (Black seeds: nigella sativa)
Speaking of pufa, I just wanna mention chicken and pork are quite high in pufa these days because of the crap they feed them. Ruminants tend to not store pufa in their meat as much, so their meat is healthier for consumption. Try to get soy and corn free chicken and pork. I prefer wild boar.
Also, no need to supplement omega 3 at all, it’s a pufa after all (pufa: polyunsaturated fatty acids). There’s enough data now to show omega 3s CAN oxidise faster than omega 6s. And the reason they do indeed lower inflammation is by literally lowering your immune system’s effectiveness. It’s not a good idea in the long run.
Big if true! I will skeptically investigate this tip. I have not heard this before.
Ive just overhauled my diet to increase my omega 3s . Im putting walnuts on everything. The dog is on fish oil. sigh I will have to research how omega 3s actually work at the molecular level.
Ive been considering adding turmeric and boswelia to the regimen because there a little bit of achiness in the joints after heavy workouts. Turmeric seems to help with a multitude of conditions like alot of phenols do.
, I just wanna mention chicken and pork are quite high in pufa these days because of the crap they feed them.
I believe it. But I dont eat meat. Im sure youll have something to say on that.
because there a little bit of achiness in the joints after heavy workouts
Haha ancient grandma, get a walker lmao
But I dont eat meat
Ugh I’m taking the bait because it’s just too good. You are a retarded vegan childless roastie? Hahaha that explains quite a lot, including you being barren!
Anyway, yes, I was also shocked to learn the truth about omega 3. At first I was in denial but the data is mounting up, however, mainstream “science” is still waxing poetic about them. Which is why I started questioning omega 3, tbh. In fact, I started questioning low carb/keto when it started being pushed so heavily and going mainstream so hard. However, even mainstream health “gurus” are not denying the omega 3 supplements, be it fish or krill, are rancid by the time the bottle reaches you. You do your own research and make sure to go deeper than the papers focusing on short term results. As a retarded vegan, you probably already have too much pufa in your system, you should try to balance it out. I, myself, am not an absolutist. I don’t take supplements but I will eat salmon whenever I feel like it. I do avoid supermarket chicken and pork, and only eat heritage breeds.
Oh, and because I’m so magnanimous I will give you a free tip for your achy ancient childless joints. Gelatine or glycine is supposed to do wonders. But since you are a retarded vegan, you are not going to have those lol
Also pig lard is perfectly fine to use if you aren't a sedentary potato. I can't imagine saturated fats being too bad for you if you get yourself to the point of ketosis to break them up in your body. Basically don't snack.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 12:34:25 ago (+3/-0)*
But the information is confusing. Or at least Im confused.
Trans or hydrogenated fats like margarine and veg shortening are really bad now we know, just like trans people.
Saturated fats like butter lard coconut and palm which had a bad reputation for cholesterol are now thought to be not so bad, especially for cooking. They are solid at room temp.
Monounsaturated fat and polyunsaturated fat cooking oils from plant sources, which were supposed to be really good are now considered maybe not so good depending on how much they were heated and processed with chemicals and how much omega 6 they contain.
Omega 3and 6 are polyunsaturated oils. Omega 6s are now known to promote inflamation, not so good in a ratio of much more than 3:1 with omega 3s, and for most people that ratio is 20:1 or more.
Fish are a good source of omega 3 but you have to make sure you avoid mercury. Flax and chia are a really good source of omega 3 but the oil degrades so rapidly that you cant get it to the table fast enough. Home grinding flax seeds is a pain and taste like shit. I might try chia.
Walnuts are a pretty good alternative for omega 3 but walnut oil is supposedly really bad. Macadamias also have a good omega 3 to 6 profile.
I think olive oil is still considered pretty good if cold pressed and getting oils in the natural form rather than processed is preferable. I eat alot of avocado but I think its mostly omega 6. I take an omega 3 supplement from algae oil.
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Somebody correct me if Ive got something wrong here
I think @ragnar knows alot about this subject if I remeber correctly.
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 3 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 13:30:53 ago (+3/-0)
This echoes the "trust the experts" dogma during covid.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 13:41:20 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 13:55:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 15:10:21 ago (+0/-0)
Same as vaccine advise
Stop protecting them
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 2 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 15:55:08 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro 2 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 15:09:33 ago (+2/-0)
Cold pressed oils are good. Olive oil. That's it.
Animal fats are good.
And you must have fats. Lean diets are terrible.
Moving on.
Eat meat. Beef and Lamb.
Eat eggs. Avacado.certain nuts. Cheese.
Drink water. Black coffee.
That is really the bulk of human fit diet.
If you eat fish. Has to be small fish. Sardines.
Its great too to eat organs.
Greens must only be leafy greens. Where the sugar is non digestible fibre.
Humans are carnivores.
Our modern plant diets kills. Makes us dumber. Causes diseases like alzheimers. Heart diseases. Diabetes. Inflammation.
And the modern diet wasn't a mistake. Deliberate weapon known to kill.
Start with two meals a day. Try and get to one meal a day.
The improvements are massive.
But almost everyone now has food demons hooked within. It's hard. Praying for help in this helps. Asking family helps.
Note. Obesity doesn't cause disease. Eating digestible plants does.
All aspects of plants is sugar. Leaves, bark, fruit, roots.
All that matters is if we can digest it. Glucose, fructose, or not. Fibre.
But you need to eat Fibre like you need to eat dirt. It passes right through
[ + ] oursenilepresident
[ - ] oursenilepresident 1 point 1 yearMar 29, 2023 16:12:44 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Pasty
[ - ] Pasty 0 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 17:39:34 ago (+0/-0)
Is it mercury contamination?
Also you're kind of retarded about plants. Cellulose fibre is a sugar sure but it's indigestible in the sense that we don't have to enzymes to break down plant fibre.
[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 1 yearMar 30, 2023 00:21:58 ago (+0/-0)
You say I'm retarded but confirm my statement.
Aren't you special?
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 1 yearApr 1, 2023 13:22:24 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 1 yearApr 1, 2023 23:41:23 ago (+0/-0)
So are temptations.
You think that there is no link between the fall of Christianity and the rise of obesity?
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 yearApr 1, 2023 23:45:40 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 yearApr 1, 2023 13:31:02 ago (+0/-0)
Heres a pretty good documentary on farmed fish I saw awhile ago. Fyi
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RYYf8cLUV5E
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer2
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 1 point 1 yearMar 29, 2023 14:39:03 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] AtomicForeskin
[ - ] AtomicForeskin 0 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 12:50:57 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 13:19:50 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 1 point 1 yearMar 31, 2023 12:22:14 ago (+1/-0)
Also, olive oil is fine raw, but it shouldn't be cooked at high temperature.
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 18:28:58 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Ragnar
[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 1 yearApr 1, 2023 10:00:22 ago (+0/-0)
You got most of the information right there. The only thing I would add is, olive oil should be eaten on salads or dips, not heated or cooked with. And of course, it must be cold and manually pressed, organic, and preferably mono species.
Only cook with saturated fats. I personally cook with tallow because lard has been bastardised by screwing up the pigs’ diets. I also don’t like the smell of coconut oil or ghee.
I would minimise your avocado intake too. They largely just provide omegas and vitamin E.
Also, no need to supplement omega 3 at all, it’s a pufa after all (pufa: polyunsaturated fatty acids). There’s enough data now to show omega 3s CAN oxidise faster than omega 6s. And the reason they do indeed lower inflammation is by literally lowering your immune system’s effectiveness. It’s not a good idea in the long run.
There are other things to lower inflammation such as turmeric and black pepper and black seeds. I am still studying these in depth, but black seeds are looking phenomenal, I have started taking them in the mornings.
(Black seeds: nigella sativa)
Speaking of pufa, I just wanna mention chicken and pork are quite high in pufa these days because of the crap they feed them. Ruminants tend to not store pufa in their meat as much, so their meat is healthier for consumption. Try to get soy and corn free chicken and pork. I prefer wild boar.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 yearApr 1, 2023 15:16:00 ago (+0/-0)
Big if true! I will skeptically investigate this tip. I have not heard this before.
Ive just overhauled my diet to increase my omega 3s . Im putting walnuts on everything. The dog is on fish oil. sigh
I will have to research how omega 3s actually work at the molecular level.
Ive been considering adding turmeric and boswelia to the regimen because there a little bit of achiness in the joints after heavy workouts. Turmeric seems to help with a multitude of conditions like alot of phenols do.
[ + ] Ragnar
[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 1 yearApr 1, 2023 23:51:48 ago (+0/-0)
Anyway, yes, I was also shocked to learn the truth about omega 3. At first I was in denial but the data is mounting up, however, mainstream “science” is still waxing poetic about them. Which is why I started questioning omega 3, tbh. In fact, I started questioning low carb/keto when it started being pushed so heavily and going mainstream so hard. However, even mainstream health “gurus” are not denying the omega 3 supplements, be it fish or krill, are rancid by the time the bottle reaches you. You do your own research and make sure to go deeper than the papers focusing on short term results.
As a retarded vegan, you probably already have too much pufa in your system, you should try to balance it out.
I, myself, am not an absolutist. I don’t take supplements but I will eat salmon whenever I feel like it. I do avoid supermarket chicken and pork, and only eat heritage breeds.
Oh, and because I’m so magnanimous I will give you a free tip for your achy ancient childless joints. Gelatine or glycine is supposed to do wonders. But since you are a retarded vegan, you are not going to have those lol
[ + ] Pasty
[ - ] Pasty 2 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 17:35:28 ago (+2/-0)*
[ + ] GlowNiggerDick
[ - ] GlowNiggerDick 0 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 14:44:01 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 yearMar 29, 2023 12:38:10 ago (+0/-0)