Anything that isn't Bitcoin, is Fiat by abstraction.
ETH, DOGE, Stablecoins, Smart Contracts, EVERYTHING that isn't the original Bitcoin is a pretender that pretends to be Bitcoin, or attempts to be something Bitcoin will never be.
Buy your Bitcoin wherever you deem is logical, but don't leave it on the exchange.
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 19:36:59 ago (+1/-0)
Kraken would be my recommendation. Then transfer it to your own wallet unless you plan to trade it actively.
For a wallet there are several good options. Exodus will give you a multi-wallet with pretty much every cryptocurrency ever created. It's a little RAM heavy though. Electrum is pretty much the most standard bitcoin only wallet. There is also a bitcoin cash fork of it for ...bitcoin cash.
I'd probably suggest the Exodus over Electrum.
Next level is to move from Bitcoin to Monero. It also has Exodus support but is a bit more annoying because your wallet has to sync before you can do anything with the monero wallet inside Exodus.
Third step is know what your flight to safety is. Every investment needs an exit strategy. If you are trying to get out of USD you might consider there are other options for when you decide its time to get out of BTC. I like PAXG because its gold pegged.
The fourth level is using bitcoin directly. You can spend it on amazon items at purse.io and actually get a better discount than on Amazon. And then you can also let me know if you are ever interested in hiring or being hired for bitcoin. I may be able to get you in contact with some people, especially if other people are interested.
Download electrum wallet. electrum.org. Install phoenix wallet on your phone.
Get a tiny amount of bitcoin, 20 bucks worth or so. Go to mempool.space and see how transaction fees work. Pay only small amounts to get a transaction in the next couple of blocks. Download the strike app. Use a credit card even though it says to use a debit card. Send some bitcoin to your phoenix lightning wallet.
If you ever invest large amounts, get a coldcard, ledger or trezor as a hardware wallet so even if your computer is hacked, your bitcoin is safe.
Yup, just a retired since 35 seven figure earning fool that never understood money. That was nearly 30yrs ago, what I have I can touch at anytime day or night. I hit the coins hard very early and cashed out like a casino hit. Cyber wealth couldn't be any clearer in 2023. Wealth is held in the heart or the hand. Cyber jew coins are what they are.
Used to be local bitcoins. Not sure anymore stopped messing with it since it became wall street controlled. If you can, buy in cash. There are lots of traders in shit holes in South America that give you much much better rates than any exchange. Exchanges will require you to give all your personal info which they then give to the IRS
I'm in the same boat, about to just open a coinbase account and buy a little. If I like where it's going the plan is to start an account at another site just in case of fuckery, like the exchange gets hacked or whatever. I've never had money to save, much less invest, but now I have a little and watching the SVB bullcrap is really making me look at where to put it. I'll always keep a savings at the bank, but I'm starting to think anything over the 'rainy day, vacation, and car repair' fund are pretty useless sitting there losing value to inflation and should be invested or converted to real world items that wont depreciate over time. Plus some crypto, just because I'll be damned if I'm investing in wall street stocks.
stocks or crypto, it's all a gamble. i like @Steelerfish advice, don't invest anything you aren't afraid to lose. one reason why i want to stick with the well-known stuff, it's less of a gamble. still a gamble, but so is anything nowadays.
I would also recommend Kraken as an exchange. That and have a software wallet to move funds to when you are not actively trading. Then also diversify your cryptos. Then know what PAXG is for a non-fiat flight to safety when you think we are at peak and want to exit.
(((Fed schekels))) aka (((Clown money))) aka (((Monopoly money))) aka (((Selling your life away for some paper printed out of a jews ass))) aka (((Slave tokens)))
I was thinking of just using coinbase from the browser. small time to start off with, and sticking to the well-known cryptos like bitcoin, ethereum, dogecoin, etc. looks like thinks are on the upswing, based on the history charts...
He's talking about Coinbase pro. Which is moving or has moved to Coinbase Advanced.
1. Do not buy BTC just on coinbase. The fees are insane. You want to do a limit trade on Coinbase Advanced or Pro.
2. Never use Market price. Do not buy using market. Slipage can happen. look it up.
3. Once you have your coins in coinbase transfer them to your own wallet on your own computer.
4. Backup everything the wallet tells you to backup. Usually a group of words in a specific order and your passwords and keys.
5. Don't fall for any scams. A lot of scams are out there. I like that you said you'd only buy the well-known cryptos. That's a good thing. Also don't send your coins to anyone unless you are buying something. There's scammers all over in crypto. Just be aware of it. People will say send me 1 coin and I'll send you 2. Kind of obvious to not do it but they impersonate popular people like Elon Musk and other crypto celebs.
6. Learn about Japanese candles. And how to trade the markets.
7. Don't FOMO in. Fear of missing out. Trade wisely.
8. Let the trade come to you.
9. Do not get emotional.
10. Don't be greedy.
11. Pick a trade strategy that works for you. Some people stay up 24/7 trading (day traders and swing traders) some will buy some BTC and sit on it for years not ever touching it.. maybe adding more BTC to it at regular intervals (dollar cost averaging). Pick one that works for you. you can dabble in all of them to see if you like one or the other.
12. You don't have to spend a lot to try it out. Don't go all in on your first trade. You can buy $20 worth to try out different strategies.
13. Don't let the bulls and bears scare you into selling or buying.
14. Have fun!
15. Etherium has really high costs to transfer. It could cost you $100 just to send $100 dollars worth to your wallet. Be aware of the high transfer costs. if you leave it on coinbase (which you shouldn't do because coinbase could go out of business at any moment and take your coins) you won't have a problem selling it to get USD and then transfering USD to your bank (unless the other thing I said happens).
Thanks Monica! That is way detailed and super helpful. One of my goals for crypto is just to diversify a bit, and have a hedge in case banks crash or something. I don't have any real hopes of making it rich anywhere, I have long ago come to the realization that I will never be anything but an anonymous worker bee. Not being self-defeating, just being a realist.
Can you recommend a good way to purchase it without going through an exchange? Most of what I've been reading requires an exchange, Paypal, or bank, and even the purchase bitcoin link at bitcoin.org is hosted by a 3rd party exchange. I don't want to use Paypal, should I just buy a prepaid bitcoin card and put more on it as I go?
An exchange is probably the best way with the lowest trading fees. They used to have a crypto bar in NYC where you could do it with cash with random strangers. But without that someone is facilitating and therefore taking a fee. The exchanges are invested in doing volume so have the lowest fees.
It's only safe from most hacking by having it in a 'paper wallet', not online in any way. I've been watching people lose their "crypto currency" to all kinds of schemes since bitcorn was $32 per bushel.
[ + ] parrygrin
[ - ] parrygrin 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 19, 2023 11:52:08 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] KyleIsThisTall
[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 19, 2023 09:16:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] lolxd
[ - ] lolxd 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 19, 2023 01:01:54 ago (+0/-0)
ETH, DOGE, Stablecoins, Smart Contracts, EVERYTHING that isn't the original Bitcoin is a pretender that pretends to be Bitcoin, or attempts to be something Bitcoin will never be.
Buy your Bitcoin wherever you deem is logical, but don't leave it on the exchange.
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 1 point 2.2 yearsMar 19, 2023 01:05:12 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII 3 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 21:55:24 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 19, 2023 09:16:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 20:44:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 19:36:59 ago (+1/-0)
For a wallet there are several good options. Exodus will give you a multi-wallet with pretty much every cryptocurrency ever created. It's a little RAM heavy though. Electrum is pretty much the most standard bitcoin only wallet. There is also a bitcoin cash fork of it for ...bitcoin cash.
I'd probably suggest the Exodus over Electrum.
Next level is to move from Bitcoin to Monero. It also has Exodus support but is a bit more annoying because your wallet has to sync before you can do anything with the monero wallet inside Exodus.
Third step is know what your flight to safety is. Every investment needs an exit strategy. If you are trying to get out of USD you might consider there are other options for when you decide its time to get out of BTC. I like PAXG because its gold pegged.
The fourth level is using bitcoin directly. You can spend it on amazon items at purse.io and actually get a better discount than on Amazon. And then you can also let me know if you are ever interested in hiring or being hired for bitcoin. I may be able to get you in contact with some people, especially if other people are interested.
[ + ] Nosferatjew
[ - ] Nosferatjew -1 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 19:29:38 ago (+0/-1)
The rest should be easy enough to figure out on your own.
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[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 19, 2023 09:22:32 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] zr855
[ - ] zr855 2 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 18:47:22 ago (+2/-0)
Get a tiny amount of bitcoin, 20 bucks worth or so. Go to mempool.space and see how transaction fees work. Pay only small amounts to get a transaction in the next couple of blocks. Download the strike app. Use a credit card even though it says to use a debit card. Send some bitcoin to your phoenix lightning wallet.
If you ever invest large amounts, get a coldcard, ledger or trezor as a hardware wallet so even if your computer is hacked, your bitcoin is safe.
I can help you tons.
Just ask.
[ + ] usedoilanalysis
[ - ] usedoilanalysis 1 point 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 18:33:47 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 19:40:22 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 18:26:26 ago (+0/-0)
Cyber coins can not be held outside the mind.
Silver or Gold can be held
[ + ] usedoilanalysis
[ - ] usedoilanalysis 2 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 18:34:19 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 1 point 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 19:38:14 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] usedoilanalysis
[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 20:05:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 20:13:20 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 21:56:03 ago (+0/-0)
TOLD YOU SO is a given to millennials
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 21:54:19 ago (+0/-0)
That was nearly 30yrs ago, what I have I can touch at anytime day or night.
I hit the coins hard very early and cashed out like a casino hit.
Cyber wealth couldn't be any clearer in 2023.
Wealth is held in the heart or the hand.
Cyber jew coins are what they are.
[ + ] usedoilanalysis
[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 23:51:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 19, 2023 07:30:35 ago (+0/-0)
Be a good goy and move along please.
[ + ] usedoilanalysis
[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 19, 2023 11:01:20 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] Monica
[ - ] Monica 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 21, 2023 08:37:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 17:50:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] totalitariat
[ - ] totalitariat 1 point 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 17:46:40 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 18:10:10 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 19:43:05 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] totalitariat 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 19, 2023 06:56:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 17:42:04 ago (+1/-1)
put all on bitcoin
????
PROFIT!
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 19:41:04 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 17:34:20 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 19:47:08 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Steelerfish
[ - ] Steelerfish 5 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 17:34:00 ago (+5/-0)
Don’t keep your crypto in an exchange’s wallet.
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 17:45:50 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] allAheadFull
[ - ] allAheadFull 1 point 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 19:03:03 ago (+1/-0)
If you want to own crypto get PC you don't use for anything else, put Linux on it and install the default wallet for that coin.
[ + ] Bottled_Tears
[ - ] Bottled_Tears 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 21:01:15 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 19, 2023 09:28:55 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Monica
[ - ] Monica 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 21, 2023 08:28:48 ago (+0/-0)
1. Do not buy BTC just on coinbase. The fees are insane. You want to do a limit trade on Coinbase Advanced or Pro.
2. Never use Market price. Do not buy using market. Slipage can happen. look it up.
3. Once you have your coins in coinbase transfer them to your own wallet on your own computer.
4. Backup everything the wallet tells you to backup. Usually a group of words in a specific order and your passwords and keys.
5. Don't fall for any scams. A lot of scams are out there. I like that you said you'd only buy the well-known cryptos. That's a good thing. Also don't send your coins to anyone unless you are buying something. There's scammers all over in crypto. Just be aware of it. People will say send me 1 coin and I'll send you 2. Kind of obvious to not do it but they impersonate popular people like Elon Musk and other crypto celebs.
6. Learn about Japanese candles. And how to trade the markets.
7. Don't FOMO in. Fear of missing out. Trade wisely.
8. Let the trade come to you.
9. Do not get emotional.
10. Don't be greedy.
11. Pick a trade strategy that works for you. Some people stay up 24/7 trading (day traders and swing traders) some will buy some BTC and sit on it for years not ever touching it.. maybe adding more BTC to it at regular intervals (dollar cost averaging). Pick one that works for you. you can dabble in all of them to see if you like one or the other.
12. You don't have to spend a lot to try it out. Don't go all in on your first trade. You can buy $20 worth to try out different strategies.
13. Don't let the bulls and bears scare you into selling or buying.
14. Have fun!
15. Etherium has really high costs to transfer. It could cost you $100 just to send $100 dollars worth to your wallet. Be aware of the high transfer costs. if you leave it on coinbase (which you shouldn't do because coinbase could go out of business at any moment and take your coins) you won't have a problem selling it to get USD and then transfering USD to your bank (unless the other thing I said happens).
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 [op] 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 21, 2023 10:24:54 ago (+0/-0)
One of my goals for crypto is just to diversify a bit, and have a hedge in case banks crash or something.
I don't have any real hopes of making it rich anywhere, I have long ago come to the realization that I will never be anything but an anonymous worker bee. Not being self-defeating, just being a realist.
[ + ] totalitariat
[ - ] totalitariat 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 17:58:58 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] zr855
[ - ] zr855 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 18:48:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 19:39:48 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 18:11:18 ago (+0/-0)
so have my own wallet on my phone? recommendations please...
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 0 points 2.2 yearsMar 18, 2023 19:36:36 ago (+0/-0)