[ - ] Cantaloupe 1 point 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 19:19:29 ago (+1/-0)*
Actually saw a vectoring craft in 96, off the coast of Mexico. And mentioned in Voat prior to the Navy releasing video. (Some say US has no vectoring crafts)
Was satalitte watching and estimate this was about that height; travelled about 43k mph at one point. A rocket goes about 18k mph.
It was traveling west at about 700 mph (typical plane) too our south. Then made an immediate 90 degree left turn north at an insane speed. And then another 90 degree change to head west again at 700 mph on a path overhead.
We gtfo of there.
It probably was an American hypersonic drone, practicing missile evasion. Our concern was it was a military secret with facial recognition
Our understanding of physics though is always wrong, we're always changing it. Most likely the Chinese discovered a new physics. f=ma, what if mass can be shielded? An electron moving in a b-field curves it's path unless shielded. Mass in higgs field moves in space time, what if it can be shielded too? High-speed underwater travel could be done with plasma. It would be a great way to conceal the origin of the vehicle.
Really couldn't give a shit if it was illegal aliens. They have to back.
There is no way any of this is actual aliens. If aliens capable of interstellar travel didnt want us to see them, we would not see them. Not ever. If they wanted us to see them we would all have seen them. They would probably just kill us and take our planet. Aliens would not only appear to a few military dudes who couldn’t confirm them. They are not that gay.
The UFOs are all either Russian, Chinese, or American military aircraft or spy devices. Period. Tucker just lost point for being a silly twat.
nope these arent aliens. these are interdimensional beings that's why they can master and fool things like gravity since their origins are not natural but supernatural. otherworldly, these beings currently are being restrained by God, they can only deceive and kill a few
Revelation 9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
Revelation 9:3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
again, there are no aliens but otherworldly beings that rebelled agaisnt God in the distant past. thats why almost every culture of the planet has legends depicting them and "flying saucers"
also, this revelation by carlson seems to lead credence to project blue beam. why he is coming out now with this info? ask yourself that
they must scare you with wars, diseases, economic ruin in order to usher their new age with their anti christ
nope these arent aliens. these are interdimensional beings that's why they can master and fool things like gravity since their origins are not natural but supernatural. otherworldly, these beings currently are being restrained by God, they can only deceive and kill a few
Honestly there would be no functional difference between advanced aliens and “interdimensional beings”. There is no such thing as supernatural. There’s just nature.
Honestly there would be no functional difference between advanced aliens and “interdimensional beings”. There is no such thing as supernatural. There’s just nature.
occultists are laughing at you because of your ignorance. but its okay, if you dont believe. you are going to find out one way or another. seems that you want to find out the hard way like many do. sad.
occultists are laughing at you because of your ignorance.
Well Im laughing at them because occultism is GAY.
you are going to find out one way or another. seems that you want to find out the hard way like many do. sad.
You won’t because you’ll be dead, the end. Im happy to give you guys a wide berth, but if you insult my beliefs, i.e., reality, the kid gloves will come off.
Reality is subjective, Helena. Is it possible we don't have all the information to form an accurate picture? There's definitely knowledge that's being hidden from us, that what occult means. I try to keep my ideas about reality malleable. It's ok to not see the whole picture, but it's silly to think you know what it looks like when you can't see it all.
What ? No reality is objective. Wtf. Perception is subjective.
Is it possible we don't have all the information to form an accurate picture?
For sure. But i know additional information ain’t gonna come from some 1st cent schitzo jew religious nut, anymore than its gonna come from a toadstool in my backyard.
There's definitely knowledge that's being hidden from us, that what occult means.
Now you are playing semantics. Knightwarrior means some illuninati theosophist hocus pocus weirdos who celebrate black mass and fuck kids and have orgies etc. If the globalists are that retarded, then this should be a cake walk, because all that shit is FAKE and GAY and practiced by morons.
Much is hidden from us by governments and billionaire elites but it has nothing to do with the nature of reality. They arent taking orders from aliens, don’t worry.
Listen, even if the globalists were collaborating with aliens (which theyre not) there’s no point in worrying because aliens capable of interstellar space travel could easily defeat us, there’s no point in resisting. Why a far advanced civilization would pussy foot around with weather balloons or giving TBI to soldiers is beyond me. Why would aliens collaborate with the military, what would they need them for? Advanced aliens could just take anything they wanted from us. They wouldnt even bother to talk to us.
Its like if a bunch of worker ants started wondering if their queen was really collaborating with humans to wipe out half the ant colony. Its so fucking gay. If humans want to kill ants they just do it. Humans wouldnt side with one group of ants against another. Theyre just ants.
I try to keep my ideas about reality malleable.
That’s not good. Reality doesnt change. Humans have yet to fully comprehend how it works. We get things wrong, we go back and correct things. Don’t confuse scientific method with the magical world of abstraction we create with human brains. Supernatural is just something people dreamed up. It only exists in people’s brains.
Honestly if I believed alot of this shit I would just go crazy. If you think ghosts or devils or lizard people from Cardassia are fucking with us, the world must be terrifyingly unpredictable. Theres no supernatural anything. All this can be explained as behavioral artifacts of evolution. Any alien civilization capable of getting here wouldnt waste time screwing around with us. If they had an agenda they wouldnt bother to hide it from ants.
Its hubris to claim you understand 'nature' when mankind can't even adequately describe it and its rules. You say nature but it seems to me you are conflating that with observable reality.
I have no idea if the underwater ufo shit is real; I've not seen any firsthand evidence. I have seen shit that I cannot explain no matter how I try to rationalize it, however.
To a blind person the color blue does not exist. The blind man thinks this is true only because he lacks the sense required to observe it. The color blue in this instance would be supernatural according to your reasoning. My point being what we think we know and can prove is vastly outweighed by what we don't. It's not even close. Therefore any unexplained phenomenon could absolutely be natural we just don't have the knowledge or adequate sensory capability to recognize it. We can also be tricked by clever people that know this. Your guess is as good as mine as to which but that's all it is for either of us until more data presents itself. It remains a guess for the both of us.
I didnt say I understoodnature perfectly. I said there is nothing but nature. There is no super-nature. If there is an area of the universe where the physical laws are different, its still nature.
you are conflating that with observable reality.
No, you are conflating reality with observable reality.
To a blind person the color blue does not exist.
And yet the color blue exists. In nature. “Revelations” was written by a schizophrenic jew living in the Roman empire, he was not delineating the the truth of the universe. Occultists are silly weird people. Some might be evil but they have no supernatural power over me. Dead is dead. We only live on through our descendents.
These things I know. You call it hubris. I call it accepting reality, and not clinging to lies.
I've noticed that you have a tendency to take things personally when it was not intended. At least based on my interactions with you. My entire point was there is more out there than we understand. Probably more than we ever can. A thousand years ago you would have believed the earth was flat. Most people did. I probably would have to. At least until evidence emerged that that might not be the case. That's my point.
No, you are conflating reality with observable reality.
The only reality that exists is one that can be observed in some form or fashion. Even a secondhand observation conveyed through a third party can become reality. If enough people believe something insomuch as it influences their actions does that not become real? If enough people believe a lie and act as if it were true at some point the truth of the matter becomes irrelevant.
Meh I'm tapping away about philosophy and the puzzling nature of reality when I just wanted to get the point across that neither you nor I nor anyone on this earth understands it. Nor can we ever fully. Weird shit happens. Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it didn't occur.
I've noticed that you have a tendency to take things personally when it was not intended
Are you suggesting that knightwarrior41 wasn’t being condescending and derisive to me?
occultists are laughing at you because of your ignorance. but its okay, if you dont believe. you are going to find out one way or another. seems that you want to find out the hard way like many do. sad.
He was. And why? Because I stated that there’s no such thing as supernatural. He took that personally because it does not agree with his beliefs. When he became insulting, and personal, I told him I thought his ideas were GAY, an opinion Im happy to keep to myself when people are respectful of my ideas.
I don’t believe there was anywhere I got personal with you, or took anything you said personally. What phrases do you think suggest that I’m taking your comment personally?
You know, there are lots of users around here that hate all females and hate me because I am one. They take all their shit out on me. They degrade women constantly and they insult and troll me daily, calling me a whore or a useless eggless roastie or an imbecile incapable of comprehending future consequences or some such drivel. Every day, a steady barrage. They mean it personally. Do you notice that?
I don’t expect any pussy passes, nor am I given any. If someone tries to hit me, I hit back. I don’t apologize for that. I wish I didnt have to so often, and I try to promote unity and brotherhood and sympathy for each other on this site. Especially for christians like knightwarrior.
I don’t feel that Im too sensitive. I feel I am appropriately defensive and offensive to people who regularly attack me. Take a walk in my shoes.
The only reality that exists is one that can be observed in some form or fashion.
Physics disagrees.
If enough people believe something insomuch as it influences their actions does that not become real?
Believing that they will have 72 virgins awaiting them in paradise makes muslims wage bloody jihad and blow themselves up for Allah. The thought (meme) in their head is real and it has a real world effect, but that doesnt mean there are 72 virgins in paradise or that the muslim will ever get there. Memes can have an effect on behavior but that doesnt mean the idea is consistent with reality. I mean, a thought exists in physical reality as an electrical impulse, but its nothing more than that.
Just because I haven’t developed some unified theory of space-time though does not mean that muslims might get 72 virgins when they die. They don’t. I make zero allowance for the possibility.
You feel that because we dont understand everything that anything might be true. I say no.
I really shouldn't drunkpost here. I get where you are coming from though. Being a girl on the internet invites the degens and incels. You just got snappy with me in our interaction which is what I was referring to. No worries. You are all good in my book. I agree to your point on the 72 virgins thing. I guess what I was getting at is there is so much out there that doesn't make sense because our perception in this reality is limited.
By the tiime an advanced civilization achieves intersteller travel they have eliminated niggers. Worse comes to worse they can just move to a new planet and leave niggers behind.
That fucking globalist skank for cashola fake and phony bag of sht.
Oooh a tenured, I say TENURED Stanford professor, not a flake said....
What professor isn't a bought and paid globalist communist flake?
Tucker's one of their cultivated trojan horses, that's why he's been allowed to say bad things about the cartel on broadcast TV.
The UFOs were part of their cult for the goyem to replace Christianity since the 1890's. They're so smug, they know people won't read what Theosophy is for themselves, and it's all there. Your masters flew in from the planet Venus because it was "overcrowded" and they've been living in an unexplored and unnamed region of Tibet. They communicate telepathically with their psychics and they'll tell you what you have to do to please them.
Trannies are reincarnated warriors from the lost continent of Atlantis. They worked Atlantis into it because it's Plato's FICTIONAL story about people with so much self esteem they thought they were admired and they were beat and conquered due their own arrogance. The jews and their pricks like Tucker despise us as stupid fools and laugh at how easy it is.
All those mid century TV aliens were the jews writing up that shit so you'd have recognition in your brain of what to expect and obey. They were always moralistic judgemental aliens more advanced than shitty little you. You were supposed to jump through their hoops to be good enough; just like their self improvement cults
THey're so ridiculously crazy it's obscene.
The entire Star Trek schtick was make you think the UN was a wise and fair minded know-it-alls who'd look after everyone on earth like "the federation" and not a thieving sanhedrin cartel of cunts who need their asses kicked off the fucking planet.
[ + ] Cantaloupe
[ - ] Cantaloupe 1 point 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 19:19:29 ago (+1/-0)*
Was satalitte watching and estimate this was about that height; travelled about 43k mph at one point. A rocket goes about 18k mph.
It was traveling west at about 700 mph (typical plane) too our south. Then made an immediate 90 degree left turn north at an insane speed. And then another 90 degree change to head west again at 700 mph on a path overhead.
We gtfo of there.
It probably was an American hypersonic drone, practicing missile evasion. Our concern was it was a military secret with facial recognition
Our understanding of physics though is always wrong, we're always changing it. Most likely the Chinese discovered a new physics. f=ma, what if mass can be shielded? An electron moving in a b-field curves it's path unless shielded. Mass in higgs field moves in space time, what if it can be shielded too? High-speed underwater travel could be done with plasma. It would be a great way to conceal the origin of the vehicle.
Really couldn't give a shit if it was illegal aliens. They have to back.
[ + ] GoatWarVet
[ - ] GoatWarVet [op] 0 points 1.2 yearsMar 17, 2023 12:19:20 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 19:00:56 ago (+1/-0)
The UFOs are all either Russian, Chinese, or American military aircraft or spy devices. Period. Tucker just lost point for being a silly twat.
[ + ] knightwarrior41
[ - ] knightwarrior41 3 points 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 19:18:31 ago (+3/-0)
again, there are no aliens but otherworldly beings that rebelled agaisnt God in the distant past. thats why almost every culture of the planet has legends depicting them and "flying saucers"
also, this revelation by carlson seems to lead credence to project blue beam. why he is coming out now with this info? ask yourself that
they must scare you with wars, diseases, economic ruin in order to usher their new age with their anti christ
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 19:27:15 ago (+0/-0)
Honestly there would be no functional difference between advanced aliens and “interdimensional beings”. There is no such thing as supernatural. There’s just nature.
[ + ] knightwarrior41
[ - ] knightwarrior41 1 point 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 19:29:28 ago (+1/-0)
occultists are laughing at you because of your ignorance. but its okay, if you dont believe. you are going to find out one way or another. seems that you want to find out the hard way like many do. sad.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 19:42:02 ago (+0/-0)
Well Im laughing at them because occultism is GAY.
You won’t because you’ll be dead, the end. Im happy to give you guys a wide berth, but if you insult my beliefs, i.e., reality, the kid gloves will come off.
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 0 points 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 22:47:01 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.2 yearsMar 17, 2023 13:23:51 ago (+0/-0)
What ? No reality is objective. Wtf. Perception is subjective.
For sure. But i know additional information ain’t gonna come from some 1st cent schitzo jew religious nut, anymore than its gonna come from a toadstool in my backyard.
Now you are playing semantics. Knightwarrior means some illuninati theosophist hocus pocus weirdos who celebrate black mass and fuck kids and have orgies etc. If the globalists are that retarded, then this should be a cake walk, because all that shit is FAKE and GAY and practiced by morons.
Much is hidden from us by governments and billionaire elites but it has nothing to do with the nature of reality. They arent taking orders from aliens, don’t worry.
Listen, even if the globalists were collaborating with aliens (which theyre not) there’s no point in worrying because aliens capable of interstellar space travel could easily defeat us, there’s no point in resisting. Why a far advanced civilization would pussy foot around with weather balloons or giving TBI to soldiers is beyond me. Why would aliens collaborate with the military, what would they need them for? Advanced aliens could just take anything they wanted from us. They wouldnt even bother to talk to us.
Its like if a bunch of worker ants started wondering if their queen was really collaborating with humans to wipe out half the ant colony. Its so fucking gay. If humans want to kill ants they just do it. Humans wouldnt side with one group of ants against another. Theyre just ants.
That’s not good. Reality doesnt change. Humans have yet to fully comprehend how it works. We get things wrong, we go back and correct things. Don’t confuse scientific method with the magical world of abstraction we create with human brains. Supernatural is just something people dreamed up. It only exists in people’s brains.
Honestly if I believed alot of this shit I would just go crazy. If you think ghosts or devils or lizard people from Cardassia are fucking with us, the world must be terrifyingly unpredictable. Theres no supernatural anything. All this can be explained as behavioral artifacts of evolution. Any alien civilization capable of getting here wouldnt waste time screwing around with us. If they had an agenda they wouldnt bother to hide it from ants.
[ + ] GoatWarVet
[ - ] GoatWarVet [op] 0 points 1.2 yearsMar 17, 2023 12:17:36 ago (+0/-0)
I have no idea if the underwater ufo shit is real; I've not seen any firsthand evidence. I have seen shit that I cannot explain no matter how I try to rationalize it, however.
To a blind person the color blue does not exist. The blind man thinks this is true only because he lacks the sense required to observe it. The color blue in this instance would be supernatural according to your reasoning. My point being what we think we know and can prove is vastly outweighed by what we don't. It's not even close. Therefore any unexplained phenomenon could absolutely be natural we just don't have the knowledge or adequate sensory capability to recognize it. We can also be tricked by clever people that know this. Your guess is as good as mine as to which but that's all it is for either of us until more data presents itself. It remains a guess for the both of us.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.2 yearsMar 17, 2023 12:52:04 ago (+0/-0)
No, you are conflating reality with observable reality.
And yet the color blue exists. In nature. “Revelations” was written by a schizophrenic jew living in the Roman empire, he was not delineating the the truth of the universe. Occultists are silly weird people. Some might be evil but they have no supernatural power over me. Dead is dead. We only live on through our descendents.
These things I know. You call it hubris. I call it accepting reality, and not clinging to lies.
[ + ] GoatWarVet
[ - ] GoatWarVet [op] 0 points 1.2 yearsMar 17, 2023 13:29:11 ago (+0/-0)
The only reality that exists is one that can be observed in some form or fashion. Even a secondhand observation conveyed through a third party can become reality. If enough people believe something insomuch as it influences their actions does that not become real? If enough people believe a lie and act as if it were true at some point the truth of the matter becomes irrelevant.
Meh I'm tapping away about philosophy and the puzzling nature of reality when I just wanted to get the point across that neither you nor I nor anyone on this earth understands it. Nor can we ever fully. Weird shit happens. Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it didn't occur.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 1.2 yearsMar 17, 2023 14:52:59 ago (+1/-0)
Are you suggesting that knightwarrior41 wasn’t being condescending and derisive to me?
He was. And why? Because I stated that there’s no such thing as supernatural. He took that personally because it does not agree with his beliefs. When he became insulting, and personal, I told him I thought his ideas were GAY, an opinion Im happy to keep to myself when people are respectful of my ideas.
I don’t believe there was anywhere I got personal with you, or took anything you said personally. What phrases do you think suggest that I’m taking your comment personally?
You know, there are lots of users around here that hate all females and hate me because I am one. They take all their shit out on me. They degrade women constantly and they insult and troll me daily, calling me a whore or a useless eggless roastie or an imbecile incapable of comprehending future consequences or some such drivel. Every day, a steady barrage. They mean it personally. Do you notice that?
I don’t expect any pussy passes, nor am I given any. If someone tries to hit me, I hit back. I don’t apologize for that. I wish I didnt have to so often, and I try to promote unity and brotherhood and sympathy for each other on this site. Especially for christians like knightwarrior.
I don’t feel that Im too sensitive. I feel I am appropriately defensive and offensive to people who regularly attack me. Take a walk in my shoes.
Physics disagrees.
Believing that they will have 72 virgins awaiting them in paradise makes muslims wage bloody jihad and blow themselves up for Allah. The thought (meme) in their head is real and it has a real world effect, but that doesnt mean there are 72 virgins in paradise or that the muslim will ever get there. Memes can have an effect on behavior but that doesnt mean the idea is consistent with reality. I mean, a thought exists in physical reality as an electrical impulse, but its nothing more than that.
Just because I haven’t developed some unified theory of space-time though does not mean that muslims might get 72 virgins when they die. They don’t. I make zero allowance for the possibility.
You feel that because we dont understand everything that anything might be true. I say no.
[ + ] GoatWarVet
[ - ] GoatWarVet [op] 0 points 1.1 yearsMar 24, 2023 10:34:55 ago (+0/-0)
I agree to your point on the 72 virgins thing.
I guess what I was getting at is there is so much out there that doesn't make sense because our perception in this reality is limited.
[ + ] Steelerfish
[ - ] Steelerfish 1 point 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 19:41:11 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 19:49:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 1 point 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 18:26:59 ago (+1/-0)
Video Mirror: https://files.catbox.moe/97hs9n.mp4
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 1.2 yearsMar 16, 2023 19:32:33 ago (+0/-0)
Oooh a tenured, I say TENURED Stanford professor, not a flake said....
What professor isn't a bought and paid globalist communist flake?
Tucker's one of their cultivated trojan horses, that's why he's been allowed to say bad things about the cartel on broadcast TV.
The UFOs were part of their cult for the goyem to replace Christianity since the 1890's. They're so smug, they know people won't read what Theosophy is for themselves, and it's all there. Your masters flew in from the planet Venus because it was "overcrowded" and they've been living in an unexplored and unnamed region of Tibet. They communicate telepathically with their psychics and they'll tell you what you have to do to please them.
Trannies are reincarnated warriors from the lost continent of Atlantis. They worked Atlantis into it because it's Plato's FICTIONAL story about people with so much self esteem they thought they were admired and they were beat and conquered due their own arrogance. The jews and their pricks like Tucker despise us as stupid fools and laugh at how easy it is.
All those mid century TV aliens were the jews writing up that shit so you'd have recognition in your brain of what to expect and obey. They were always moralistic judgemental aliens more advanced than shitty little you. You were supposed to jump through their hoops to be good enough; just like their self improvement cults
THey're so ridiculously crazy it's obscene.
The entire Star Trek schtick was make you think the UN was a wise and fair minded know-it-alls who'd look after everyone on earth like "the federation" and not a thieving sanhedrin cartel of cunts who need their asses kicked off the fucking planet.
Their heads are all trophies.