What finally made me realize that there was no plan for systemic extermination was in 2007, when I saw in the the 1947 Red Cross report a table giving the final death toll of all jews in camps at roughly 274,000. Learning this literally took my breath away because I then realized what a scam of epic proportions it all was.
Before that, however, some things stood out as just nonsensical and illogical. German efficiency and engineering are legendary and the reputation is well deserved, but we were supposed to believe some things that were completely out of character for the German people and the Third Reich.
1. Zyklon gas is dangerous, expensive, and an inefficient way to kill large numbers of people. Bullets are much cheaper. If that had to gas them, the Germans had large stockpiles of Sarin gas, which is just a deadly but much less dangerous to use.
2. I never believed the myth that Germans were so monstrous and soul-less that they would gleefully systematically kill somewhere between six to twelve million people, especially when they were destroying a valuable labor source in the middle of a war.
3. The actual numbers of deaths in camps varied considerably depending on who was talking about it. I often heard the six million number, but just as often I heard eight million, ten million, six million jews and six million non-jews.
4. There was no actual written documentation giving the order and describing the plan for a mass extermination. The Wannsee Conference lasted only 90 minutes and does not contain anything remotely describing extermination. "The Final Solution" meant deportation, not extermination.
5. Why did they tattoo jews with a tracking number when they were just going to kill them later?
I didn't trust jews before 2007 but after that, I realized just how venal, calculating, and disingenuous they are. They've bombarded the gentiles with their propaganda, from TV to movies to graphic art. (The series "Maus" by (((Art Spiegelman))) is full of lies from cover to cover, told to him by his father Vladek, who kvetched endlessly about his suffering in Auschwitz, somehow avoiding execution yet in constant danger, not from the Germans but from Poles and his fellow jews.)
[ - ] zongongo 1 point 1.1 yearsMar 12, 2023 19:00:26 ago (+1/-0)
Anyone else grow up in the northeast in the 70's - 80's and get WOR TV 9 out of New York ? Remember the program "The World At War" which ran for decades and only ever showed WW2 ? Pepperidge Farm remembers that fuckin' propaganda. When I was around 10 - 12, I could sense something was wrong. With all the other wars, why always only WW2 ?
I guess I went through the education system at a special time, because I remember pretty distinctly being taught 1.8 million jews in elementary school, then 4 million jews and 1.8 million gypsies, poles, etc in middle school, then just 6 million jews with zero mention of any other group in high school.
Then again, I actually paid attention in school. I was that good student that one or two of the faculty despised because I would unintentionally make them look foolish by asking questions they didn't like or couldn't answer.
[ - ] dingbat 1 point 1.1 yearsMar 12, 2023 00:04:25 ago (+1/-0)*
This is gonna sound weird, but my soul would not allow me to become emotionally invested or tied to this story, even before I found out it was all fake and gay. When I was a little dingbat, I didn’t do my book report on ‘The Diary of Anne Frank’ and received a zero in the grade book because the book didn’t really mean anything to me. I never watched ‘Schindler’s List,’ nor was I interested. In Amsterdam, I saw the long cue for Anne Frank’s house and thought to myself, “Why?” I never even thought about it. So once I got pointed to Voat and started seeing the massive shit talking around it, my soul found its calling—to become based and redpilled.
I was in Amsterdam decades ago, and had a few days to explore, but I never though the Anne Frank house was interesting enough to warrant my attention. But then, I'm of Dutch ancestry, so I wanted to see things that belonged to my cultural heritage.
So I've heard. I had relatives (now deceased), born in the US, who traveled there and nothing but praise for the friendly people and beautiful, orderly cities they lived in. I wish I could have seen more of the Netherlands other than Amsterdam, but even that is, or at least it was, a charming city.
The whole thing is just absurd, even if you try to give the official narrative the benefit of the doubt.
The camps had massive barracks, kitchens, cafeteria, work, medical and recreational areas. Why would you waste all those resources on feeding and housing and entertaining your genocide victims? They were clearly internment camps used for cheap labor and to keep potential saboteurs off the streets during a time of all out war. US and UK were doing the exact same thing, including also using Zyklon B for delousing clothes.
If you want to see what an actual death camp for the purpose of genocide looks like, look at Eisenhower's death meadows. Hundreds of thousands of men and women, fenced in like cattle, with no shelter and barely enough room to lie down. Deliberately underfed and malnutritioned, no access to clean water, no sanitation, left to rot in their own muck, while exposed to wind and weather, waiting to die to starvation or disease. That's a death camp.
Man, that's a really good point. I never considered why they would need enormous facilities if they were just going to briefly warehouse and then execute the prisoners. It's amazing what cognitive dissonance can do to you.
If you want a final nail in the coffin consider this:
Even if they decided they wanted the inmates all dead, or got such orders, at any point, they could have easily poisoned their food or water. Takes much less cyanide and effort than filling a huge room with lethal concentrations of gas. They could have done this even as the front collapsed and "Allies" were approaching. There would have been no survivors.
Instead, they kept as many of them alive as possible. Even as they were losing the war. Even as supply lines collapsed. Even as their countrymen and families were dying to bombs and starvation. Even as defeat loomed and their capture was imminent. They never abandoned their posts and took care of their charges as best as they could.
Compare to how both Allies and Commies treated German prisoners after the war.
Holy crap, you're so right. They could easily have done that during the war at so much less cost. The way the Germans behaved toward the end of the war, the acted as if they had charges instead of prisoners. If it were truly a plan of extermination, the Germans would have done away with these people much earlier, when the supply chain provided by the railroads were being destroyed. Again, I never connected the dots. Thanks for that.
The push to declare the Holocaust a "lie" is to downplay the Jewish role .. get it well understood Adolf Hitler and all of the top Nazis were Jews, the non Jewish Nazis Ernst Röhm and the SA were slaughtered in the Night of the Long Knives Massacres of June 1934, after H was sworn in as German Chancellor Jan. 30, 1933.
Jews perpetrated genocide upon the German ppl not the other way around.
The Holocaust was a Zionist plot to eliminate those Jews who remained true to the Divine Covenant, by which Allah assures Jews the Messiah will appear, whose purpose will be to restore the fortunes of the Jewish people and to establish the nation state of Israel, it exhorts them to patience until that time comes.
This model does not deny Jews were gassed .. it relies on the testimony of former WW2 RAAF Bomber Pilot Moshe Dyan Kaplan who claims to be a Pharisee, who says his Amsterdam family emerged unscathed and that the Jews who were gassed were called "Cheesies," as well he gave to understand that as far as he was concerned they were neither missed nor mourned.
And that of Katherine Schweitzer the only survivor of a Jewish family of fourteen, arrested in Budapest in 1944 by a Jew member of Horsha the Hungarian thug police and deported to Auschwitz, who said in an interview with Australian 60 Minutes reporter Richard Carleton in the 1990's, the Jew who arrested her family was living a few doors up on the same street in Sydney.
Her murdered body was discovered in a wheely bin inside her high security Sydney apartment building December 28, 2006, four weeks after we put her story onto an email that went to every member of both houses of the Australian Federal Parliament and the Israeli Knesset, as well as to thousands of other e addresses world wide.
According to Alex Jones George Soros then in his teen years "cataloged" the possessions of Jews deported from Budapest at that time, we say he was "hands on" in her case.
Feedback: So why were there so many Jews in German prison camps?
We say there weren't that many, the ones who went in because they refused to toe the Zionist line a la Katherine Schweitzer's family were gassed as soon as they got off the train. The others were Jewish criminals who had been legally arrested, tried and convicted who became the camp elite and did the "dirty work," who dressed in jackboots and prison cloth replicas of the SS Guard's uniforms.
The source is a book penned by Hungarian Jew George Soros that turned up in paperback form in the early 1970's, it had a man in a concentration camp setting in striped prison dress armed with a Luger pistol on the cover.
It started with a youngish man well connected and from a "good" family who was completely taken in by the propaganda of the day, he was a Talmudist Jew and was aware Jews posing as Russians and Germans had all of Europe in their thrall .. he participated in the arrest of Jews and their relocation to Auschwitz, as well he accompanied the deportees to their destination where he knew they were to be gassed.
Understand this the so called Jews who wielded the power and that means the author who we say was indeed Soros are not even Jews, they were horse breeders from Kazakhstan who became Jews when their King embraced Judaism in the 8th Century.
So the impetus to the slaughter of real Jews came from their direction and was to forward their own genocidal agenda, all under the aegis of the Talmud which was penned by a master Zionist who claimed to have prevailed in a debate with Allah.
The book appeared to have been written in fits and bursts, the narrator next appears at Auschwitz in the Jewish guards detachment in quasi SS uniform of striped prison cloth, he described the arrival by rail from Budapest of a Jewish family of fourteen who we say were the Schweitzers, he wrote of the family matriarch seeking a porter at the railhead..
And related anyone making a fuss was executed on the spot out of the line of sight by an SS Officer with an air pistol, he said the old and infirm went into reefer vans which were sealed before the exhaust was fed in killing the lot, that the others were paraded between two close ranks of similar Jewish guards into the gas chamber.
https://i.postimg.cc/gkw8Z52Z/FL-2.jpg
His description of the sloping concrete ramp leading to the entrance exactly tallies with the footage in the Fred Leuchter video. He went on to say he made numerous trips from Hungary to Poland, and said on one occasion he was nearly gassed himself when he tarried in the wrong place, and only escaped the cordon when an acquaintance let him thru.
Jews infiltrated German politics then perped the Holocaust in the name of the German ppl, like they infiltrated US politics perped 911 pdf then established the bogus War on Terror, like they infiltrated Turkish politics then perpetrated the Armenian Genocide.
How efficient is leading a big crowd of people into a gas chamber and gassing them? Now you have a massive pile of literal dead weight clogging up your gas chamber that you have to remove before gassing any more, how much manpower and resources would it take to kill six gorrilion this way?
Yep. Why not just carpet bomb the camps? You could do it at relatively low altitude too, so accuracy was assured. Then you just take a few tractors per camp and cover the wreckage in dirt.
Maybe a week's time if they are already rounded up.
I believed it. But I thought why do we always have to hear about this genocide. There were lots of other genocides in the. 20th century so why was every movie and tv show I ever watched only blathering about the nazi genocide? I just thought they were biased. I never believed a hoax could be perpetrated on that magnitude.
Now I think most genocides are a hoax. Genocide data is hihly unreliable.
Also I remember reading Albert Speer’s book when I was like 20. He describes how regrettable the conditions were for “workers” in the concentration camps ( which he was basically running) and I was like “what the fuck is he talking about? Why isnt he talking about people being gassed. Who cares about working conditions.” This account puzzled me for a long time until I got j-pilled and started to learn about the holohoax. And then it was like all the puzzle pieces fell in to place
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[ - ] zongongo 1 point 1.1 yearsMar 12, 2023 19:00:26 ago (+1/-0)
Remember the program "The World At War" which ran for decades and only ever showed WW2 ?
Pepperidge Farm remembers that fuckin' propaganda.
When I was around 10 - 12, I could sense something was wrong.
With all the other wars, why always only WW2 ?
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[ - ] Jinglebanger 2 points 1.1 yearsMar 12, 2023 09:09:13 ago (+2/-0)
Then again, I actually paid attention in school. I was that good student that one or two of the faculty despised because I would unintentionally make them look foolish by asking questions they didn't like or couldn't answer.
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The camps had massive barracks, kitchens, cafeteria, work, medical and recreational areas. Why would you waste all those resources on feeding and housing and entertaining your genocide victims? They were clearly internment camps used for cheap labor and to keep potential saboteurs off the streets during a time of all out war. US and UK were doing the exact same thing, including also using Zyklon B for delousing clothes.
If you want to see what an actual death camp for the purpose of genocide looks like, look at Eisenhower's death meadows. Hundreds of thousands of men and women, fenced in like cattle, with no shelter and barely enough room to lie down. Deliberately underfed and malnutritioned, no access to clean water, no sanitation, left to rot in their own muck, while exposed to wind and weather, waiting to die to starvation or disease. That's a death camp.
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[ - ] GloryBeckons 2 points 1.1 yearsMar 11, 2023 20:01:32 ago (+2/-0)
Even if they decided they wanted the inmates all dead, or got such orders, at any point, they could have easily poisoned their food or water. Takes much less cyanide and effort than filling a huge room with lethal concentrations of gas. They could have done this even as the front collapsed and "Allies" were approaching. There would have been no survivors.
Instead, they kept as many of them alive as possible. Even as they were losing the war. Even as supply lines collapsed. Even as their countrymen and families were dying to bombs and starvation. Even as defeat loomed and their capture was imminent. They never abandoned their posts and took care of their charges as best as they could.
Compare to how both Allies and Commies treated German prisoners after the war.
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
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[ - ] localsal 6 points 1.1 yearsMar 11, 2023 16:47:06 ago (+6/-0)
and why do all these tattooed numbers only consist of 6 digits? That's not a lot of people...
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[ - ] MartinTimothy -2 points 1.1 yearsMar 11, 2023 16:20:32 ago (+0/-2)*
Eisenhower's Rhine Meadows Death Camps.
11 Million Germans Were Murdered After WWII.
9-15 Million Germans Killed Post WW2 1945 – 1953.
Post WW2 Jews Murdered Poles & Took Power in Poland.
The Real Holocaust of WW2 – 15 Million Germans Slaughtered.
Genocide of the Ethnic Germans in Jugoslavia 1944 – 1948 pdf.
Other Losses - The Genocide of 7m Germans, by James Bacque.
The Masses of Corpses at Dachau & Buchenwald Were Dead German Soldiers.
Jews perpetrated genocide upon the German ppl not the other way around.
The Holocaust was a Zionist plot to eliminate those Jews who remained true to the Divine Covenant, by which Allah assures Jews the Messiah will appear, whose purpose will be to restore the fortunes of the Jewish people and to establish the nation state of Israel, it exhorts them to patience until that time comes.
In the video Danger Zone for Trucks in Czech Republic, driver Harry Stam takes us thru deserted towns and villages we say the former inhabitants of which were the Sudetenland Germans, whose ancestors had been sent there by usurper Catherine the Great in the 18th Century, who were with the Volga Germans, other pockets of relocated Germans in Poland and the Gypsy ppl the principle victims of the H'caust.
This model does not deny Jews were gassed .. it relies on the testimony of former WW2 RAAF Bomber Pilot Moshe Dyan Kaplan who claims to be a Pharisee, who says his Amsterdam family emerged unscathed and that the Jews who were gassed were called "Cheesies," as well he gave to understand that as far as he was concerned they were neither missed nor mourned.
And that of Katherine Schweitzer the only survivor of a Jewish family of fourteen, arrested in Budapest in 1944 by a Jew member of Horsha the Hungarian thug police and deported to Auschwitz, who said in an interview with Australian 60 Minutes reporter Richard Carleton in the 1990's, the Jew who arrested her family was living a few doors up on the same street in Sydney.
Her murdered body was discovered in a wheely bin inside her high security Sydney apartment building December 28, 2006, four weeks after we put her story onto an email that went to every member of both houses of the Australian Federal Parliament and the Israeli Knesset, as well as to thousands of other e addresses world wide.
According to Alex Jones George Soros then in his teen years "cataloged" the possessions of Jews deported from Budapest at that time, we say he was "hands on" in her case.
Feedback: So why were there so many Jews in German prison camps?
We say there weren't that many, the ones who went in because they refused to toe the Zionist line a la Katherine Schweitzer's family were gassed as soon as they got off the train. The others were Jewish criminals who had been legally arrested, tried and convicted who became the camp elite and did the "dirty work," who dressed in jackboots and prison cloth replicas of the SS Guard's uniforms.
The source is a book penned by Hungarian Jew George Soros that turned up in paperback form in the early 1970's, it had a man in a concentration camp setting in striped prison dress armed with a Luger pistol on the cover.
It started with a youngish man well connected and from a "good" family who was completely taken in by the propaganda of the day, he was a Talmudist Jew and was aware Jews posing as Russians and Germans had all of Europe in their thrall .. he participated in the arrest of Jews and their relocation to Auschwitz, as well he accompanied the deportees to their destination where he knew they were to be gassed.
Understand this the so called Jews who wielded the power and that means the author who we say was indeed Soros are not even Jews, they were horse breeders from Kazakhstan who became Jews when their King embraced Judaism in the 8th Century.
So the impetus to the slaughter of real Jews came from their direction and was to forward their own genocidal agenda, all under the aegis of the Talmud which was penned by a master Zionist who claimed to have prevailed in a debate with Allah.
The book appeared to have been written in fits and bursts, the narrator next appears at Auschwitz in the Jewish guards detachment in quasi SS uniform of striped prison cloth, he described the arrival by rail from Budapest of a Jewish family of fourteen who we say were the Schweitzers, he wrote of the family matriarch seeking a porter at the railhead..
And related anyone making a fuss was executed on the spot out of the line of sight by an SS Officer with an air pistol, he said the old and infirm went into reefer vans which were sealed before the exhaust was fed in killing the lot, that the others were paraded between two close ranks of similar Jewish guards into the gas chamber.
https://i.postimg.cc/gkw8Z52Z/FL-2.jpg
His description of the sloping concrete ramp leading to the entrance exactly tallies with the footage in the Fred Leuchter video. He went on to say he made numerous trips from Hungary to Poland, and said on one occasion he was nearly gassed himself when he tarried in the wrong place, and only escaped the cordon when an acquaintance let him thru.
Jews infiltrated German politics then perped the Holocaust in the name of the German ppl, like they infiltrated US politics perped 911 pdf then established the bogus War on Terror, like they infiltrated Turkish politics then perpetrated the Armenian Genocide.
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Maybe a week's time if they are already rounded up.
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Now I think most genocides are a hoax. Genocide data is hihly unreliable.
Also I remember reading Albert Speer’s book when I was like 20. He describes how regrettable the conditions were for “workers” in the concentration camps ( which he was basically running) and I was like “what the fuck is he talking about? Why isnt he talking about people being gassed. Who cares about working conditions.” This account puzzled me for a long time until I got j-pilled and started to learn about the holohoax. And then it was like all the puzzle pieces fell in to place