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Was WW1 just a cover while the bolsheviks took Russia?

submitted by drhitler to whatever 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 06:32:47 ago (+28/-0)     (whatever)

The Revolution really ramped up around 1914 and ww1 went for 1914-1918, by 1917 the bolsheviks had seized power.

Seems like the perfect time to hijack a country while the military is busy abroad, i almost have to wonder if the communists orchestrated the start of ww1 too.



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[ - ] albatrosv15 9 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 08:19:29 ago (+9/-0)

Yes and not only. Also this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%931919
This one failed, that's why the hatred against germans.

[ - ] drhitler [op] 2 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 08:43:26 ago (+2/-0)

they really wanted Germany too, it wasn't some backwater farming country like most of eastern Europe, the industry they would inherit would really help their war machine.

and yet they apparently allied with each other for a short period in ww2, or was that more lies too, just seems odd you would ally with the very people that are the reason for the nazis existing.

[ - ] bossman131 2 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 09:59:02 ago (+2/-0)

After the Bolshevik jews slaughtered and starved millions of Ukrainians they then made a move to Germany. Hitler was aware of what the jews had just accomplished and he assured the German citizens that he would stop them. He was successful in stopping them from murdering millions of Germans. One of the ring leaders (Trotsky) had escaped and taken refuge in Mexico, only to be tracked down a few decades later, and assassinated by ramming an ice- pick into his skull. https://www.historytoday.com/archive/months-past/leon-trotsky-assassinated-mexico

[ - ] MartinTimothy 2 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 11:20:45 ago (+2/-0)

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 12:55:39 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] zongongo 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 11:51:03 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 24, 2023 01:32:02 ago (+0/-0)

and not only.

Key point. Part of the reason to play both/all sides is to enact multiple power grabs at the same time. If any of them work, jews win! And typically, more than one option will come to fruition.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 5 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 06:46:55 ago (+5/-0)

That was part of it, but kikes didn't only seize control of Russia as a result of WW1. They also got America and France in the deal.

You ever wonder why America was all of a sudden allied with a country it fought two bloody wars with just a century or so prior? Yeah, me neither.

[ - ] drhitler [op] 4 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 06:54:19 ago (+4/-0)

The scope and scale of communist meddling in the 20th century is truly disgusting, I can't believe how much misery one ideology has caused you think people would wise up to them by now but most people have no idea what a real communist is and how ruthless they are, people underestimate them time and time again and they end up getting hijacked and killed.

[ - ] AryanPrime 5 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 07:42:15 ago (+5/-0)

"Communist"

communist is just a code word for kike religious ideology (aka the babylonian talmud and zohar)

it's kike meddling in the 20th century, not communism, communism is just a tool, like a hammer

don't focus on the tool being used, focus on the hand holding the tool, and the pattern of behavior the tool holder engages in with it's tools and who/what is it trying to destroy

the kike covets Aryan genetics.

[ - ] anrach 1 point 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 11:20:14 ago (+1/-0)

Ackshually, the kikening of America began in earnest right after the civil war. They saw that the traumatized country was ripe for their machinations and swooped in like vultures. By the end of the 19 aught-ies they had already attained considerable political influence (think founding of the fed. reserve 1911).

[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 1 point 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 15:41:51 ago (+1/-0)

Exactly. One of the most influential kikes of the late 1800s/early 1900s was a kike called Stephen Samuel Wise. This one kike alone turned America into a shabbos goyim nation.

[ - ] AryanPrime 4 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 07:40:56 ago (+4/-0)

yes...kikes have been trying to genocide the Aryan race and "take their place" for over 1000 years when they first came to the Rhineland (Germany)

The holohoax is also a lie, used to instill the takeover of other Aryan nations

the kike is an enemy combatant, we should literally be hunting them down in their homes and either erasing them or deporting them

personally, deportation is out of the question anymore...these things are evil and will never stop being evil

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 11:08:19 ago (+1/-0)

Deporting them is an isolationist cope dream. Kikes are globalists and thus the problem must be solved globally. Only when the kikes have been defeated can we return to ethno-localism.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 17:56:14 ago (+0/-0)

Trying? In 1890 or abouts whites were 50 percent of the world's population? I think I'm not 100% on the percent and dates but ball park.

Now whites are down to 8% of the world's population?

The jews won the Arabs won somehow.

Patton and Douglas Mac aurther needed to take over after ww2 but the OSS the pre runner of the Cia was already doing all the dirty work.

They killed James Forrester for sure look into it

[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 1 point 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 12:01:18 ago (+1/-0)

200 years together by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn is a tome of history detailing the jews impact on Russia and the communist takeover

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=564752

[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 24, 2023 03:33:38 ago (+0/-0)

200 years together by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn is a tome of history detailing the jews impact on Russia and the communist takeover

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=564752

[ - ] Suno 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 24, 2023 01:08:22 ago (+0/-0)*

I'm quite interested in this topic. I've done a considerable amount of research into WW1 and I'm not quite clear on some things. I'm not trolling or pozzing or kvetching or whatever the terms are. I'm just genuinely interested in this subject.

1905 was the start of the first major revolution and set the stage for the later bigger revolution. There was smoldering resentment among the lower class but from what I understand nothing really happened until February 1917. There were grumblings, there was hatred of the royal family but none of the truly consequential riots did not happen until late 1916/early 1917. Lenin had fled Russia in 1907 after robbing post offices with other future Bolsheviks like Stalin. The group moved around a bit and stirred up trouble but all this was done in diaspora. Lenin was living in Switzerland in 1917. The Germans allowed him passage into Russia via a sealed train car, but the February Revolution had already happened in 1917 before Lenin was even in the country. Karensky and the provisional government ruled all of 1917 until November when the Bolsheviks took over. Now I get it that Jews are bad but I disagree that the revolution was ramped up in 1914. The Bolsheviks weren't even the ones to initiate the first toppling of the tsarist regime. They just took advantage once Karensky had power.

Now it is my belief that Russia is to blame for the outbreak of WW1. They were the first power to mobilize on July 30, 1914. Up until that point the issue was contained to the Austro-Hungarians and their grievance with Serbia. There were still back channel diplomacy going on between France, Russia and Germany on July 23 when Austria issued its ultimatum to Serbia. Austria declared war on Serbia on July 28th. Russia had no formal alliance with Serbia. There was zero obligation for Russia to get involved in the conflict other than its desire to expand to Istanbul and its view as the protector of Orthodoxy in the world. Russia demanded Austria to not attack which was ignored and Russia mobilized. That is what set everything off. If Russia had not made this decision its reasonable to predict the war would have a been a small regional conflict between Austria and Serbia.

Russia mobilizing put enormous pressure on Germany. First of all Germany did a formal alliance with Austria and was obligated to come to its defense. Second the Russia military was bigger than all of other great powers at the time. The problem was that the infrastructure and logistical capabilities were far behind everyone else. It would take Russia a long time to get its engines up and running but once it did it would ben an unstoppable steamroller, or at least that's what the military leaders of the time thought. No one had any idea how good or bad any of the armies would perform. Russia was one of the worst performing armies of WW1 but by pre-war predictions they were the powerhouse. The third issue for Germany was that it was surrounded on both sides by France and Russia who were both in an alliance. Germany had no room to maneuver and could not play a "wait and see" game. Germany had to act fast or else French would be in the Rhineland and Russians would be in East Prussia before they knew it. The simple act of Russia declaring mobilization put so much pressure on Germany that they had no choice other than to declare war on Russia and France and enact the Schlieffen Plan.

I don't see how Jews factor into this. Perhaps there was some Jewish ministers in the Tsar's advisory committee who had crystal balls and could see the future and were giving the tsar bad advice? I don't know. But as I said Russia's motivations were 1. Secure Istanbul and expand south to the Black Sea and 2. Protect all Orthodox Christians of Europe. Neither of those have anything to do with Jews. Look I could be wrong and if you have some information to share I would love to read up on it because this is one of my favorite historical topics to talk about.

I don't agree with another post here claiming Bethmann Holwig was responsible for the war. I laid out my arguments why the blame should be cast on Russia. But don't get me wrong. It wasn't just Austria or Russia who wanted the war. It was EVERYONE. Every single great power in Europe was itching to get into a conflict. Everyone had brand new military technology they wanted to try out and many parties like France had generational grudges that they wanted to get payback for. Very few people were trying to put the brakes on. But I am more than open to debate and would love to see some information backing up your points of view.

[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 15:19:29 ago (+0/-0)

How do you think ww2 got started?

[ - ] didyouknow 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 12:04:17 ago (+0/-0)

I made a thread about this and how Germany of all countries played the key role in bringing about the Bolshevik Revolution during WW1, the government of Germany had thoroughly been infiltrated by this point by jews and many crypto-jews held high positions of power, including the position of chancellor like Bethmann who was responsible for setting WW1 into motion. The Kaiser was nothing more but a toothless figurehead who's time was running out very fast.

https://www.talk.lol/viewpost.php?postid=633f8e21f1639

https://www.talk.lol/viewpost.php?postid=637a86a25cbd7

https://www.talk.lol/viewpost.php?postid=633a2db3f41fa

[ - ] Suno 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 24, 2023 01:15:37 ago (+0/-0)

I'm reading these posts and learning some new things. Thanks for sharing!

[ - ] didyouknow 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 24, 2023 13:53:28 ago (+0/-0)

You're welcome.

[ - ] dlemonmd 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 11:00:30 ago (+0/-0)

WWI was started by a small group of British elites. Group's ultimate goal was to 'anglicide' the world, bring British customs and language and laws to all nations of the world. In the 1910's, Germany was increasingly out-competing Britain in export and sales of chemicals, technology, machinery, high value-added products. Group thus had to destroy Germany. Book "Hidden History, the secret origins of the first world war", authors Docherty and Macgregor. Evidence is exhaustive, unassailable. Sequel by same authors details how WWI was purposefully extended by 3.5 yrs, thanks to same group, in order to more completely destroy Germany

[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 12:56:27 ago (+0/-0)

The Great Depression was created by kike banking in order to leverage a failing Britain, as the head kikes were located in Britain and wanted the kiked Britain of today during that time.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 17:59:27 ago (+0/-0)

Probably had something to do with the city of London probably a hive of kikes running that place same ad DC and the vatican

[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 21:37:07 ago (+0/-0)

Anytime a group of jews find eachother, a rift of demonic retardation appears and sucks the souls of anyone nearby - those that are aware of the jew at least have a fighting chance to not be subverted into their faggot/Talmudic usurpations.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 17:58:22 ago (+0/-0)

I'm reading the second book right now.

Rhodes was one evil fuck but looking back I wish he had got what he wanted he wanted white control of the world.

Something went terribly wrong between the end of ww2 and 1960

[ - ] GlowNiggerDick -1 points 1.2 yearsFeb 23, 2023 12:58:20 ago (+0/-1)

I dont think so. Europe was a powder keg. Pretty much everyone knew the Balkans were a cluster fuck of hostility and dangerous alliances. Plus, early 20th century mobilization was basically the mutually assured destruction of its time. If one country did it, everyone would have to do it. There was no time for cooler heads to prevail once someone pressed the button.

Bolsheviks only took power because Tzar Nick was a coked out cuck with his head up his ass.