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Protesting is stupid

submitted by Lovemachine to TellUpgoat 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 13:43:06 ago (+14/-0)     (TellUpgoat)

Conservicants mistakenly took a page from libturds on this one. You see, when you think about it, seemingly most parts of progressive dogma are actually looking backwards. Equal rights was a 20th century issue. Automobile pollution was a 20th century issue (modern cars pollute 95% less). etc. Progressivism, true to its real definition to the t looks backwards.

Protests as well. Progressive libturds love the good old days of strikes and unions and picket lines and protests. That shit doesn't fit in our world today.

The idea of a protest was to get the government to listen. ....you notice that working much? It's controlled opposition.

Don't protest. Envision how to get what you want and do that. Protests are an idea of the past that no longer fit into our world.


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[ - ] FuckShitJesus 11 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 13:50:27 ago (+11/-0)

Peaceful Protests are ineffective.

War is when the government tells you who the bad guy is. Revolution is when you decide that for yourself. - Benjamin Franklin

[ - ] deleted 3 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 16:50:43 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] FuckShitJesus -1 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 21:05:16 ago (+0/-1)

What is this eras context?

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 14:32:47 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] SkullFuckerSupreme 3 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 13:59:20 ago (+4/-1)

They listen to assassination and destruction of their assets or inability to collect tax.

[ - ] Lovemachine [op] 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 14:07:28 ago (+1/-0)

I doubt it. Head of the hydra kind of thing. You'd be better sneaking sugar into AOCs food so she gets fat and no one votes for her. Hehehe

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 19:57:36 ago (+0/-0)

We have more heads though.

[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 2 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 14:50:04 ago (+2/-0)

A lot of the reason to protest/march is to show the strength of an idea. When PF goes out and pamphlets people engage, they learn that they aren't alone, that many strong white males support the same things they do.

That is why it is so important for the communists to stop our protests. They know that the ideas are on the side of truth, and that if that message got out it would be something like 90:10, not 50:50.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 20:12:41 ago (+0/-0)

just look at how jews conducted their protests during the 1800s to seize power and then emulate it

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 15:38:56 ago (+0/-0)

envision how to get what you want

How do you envision us achieving political change and removing jews from power? Can you do ot by yourself? If no, you will need to do things to raise awareness and recruit people to your cause. Hence protest.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 17:10:53 ago (+0/-0)*

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[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 17:49:27 ago (+0/-0)

Raising awareness has been our approach for over a decade. It doesn't work.

For one the problem isn't awareness at all, the problem is a lack of concern for these matters, and that of those who are concerned moat of them are on the opposite side of the conflict from us.

Secondly, awareness by itself is completely ineffective, it changes nothing but how aware the individual is of what is going on, plenty of people I've met wished they remained ignorant.

Third, awareness raising prevents actual effective activism from taking place, as awareness raising is low risk and low investment it is preferable for the majority of those who should be doing activities with a lot more potential impact. It needs to be removed from the list of things to do so that people won't just be raising consciousness and then feeling satisfied that they did something for the cause.

In many ways the emphasis on consciousness raising has harmed the cause more than it has helped it.

This is the rquivalent of incels who try to do things to get bitches on their dicks. What they should be doing is working on improving themselves and achieving things while pursuing a goal besides getting to score with some chicks.

Thats how women come to you.

We are taking a similarly misdirected approach.

Want a better direction for your energy? Focus on meeting the enemy with their own methods.

For example. Go on the offensive by exploring unfamiliar ground where their defenses are weak.

Talk about white people being enslaved by other races, having their lands invades and occupied by other races. Being subjected to discrimination by other races.

Then focus you energy on aggresively and insistently demanding reparations for those transgressions against your ancestors.

Right now the narrative is that whire people were never subjected to such atrocities, thoa narrative collapses once the common knowledge is that these events did indeed occur in the past.

The emphasis should be on winning hearts over, to make people sympathize with and feel compassion for the white victims of these events. This means activating their consciences by crwsting intimacy with the experiences of those victims.

The jews win because they will talk about how black people suffered under white people, but when whites people who suffered under blacks get brought up, they diffuse the pathos energy by making it about the form of atrocity in general, not about this particular event where the atrocity was perpetrated by one identified race against another.

Emotional energy comes from things like loud, repetitive demands for actions to provide justice to the offended party, or punishment to the offenders.

The conservatives play the jewish game in their favor when they try to get the game dismissed, they come across as a guilty party trying to avoid their accountability for their actions.

Watch the Jesse Peterson interview. When it's hatred towards jews its called what it is, but when that same hatred is directed against whites he focuses on hatred in general.

Jews have practical and pragmatic concerns in protecting their borders from dangerous invaders, he keeps this discussion firmly grounded in the concrete reality of the situation.

When it's whites who are being invaded, he takes the conversation into the realm of abstractions and ideals, he talks only about moral principles and political ideology, distracting you from the reality of the situation which produces an empathic connection to those being affected by this issue.

Conservatives need to abandon ideology if they can hope to win here.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 20:03:22 ago (+0/-0)

So, let me get this straight.

Protesting to raise awareness of our issues is useless and we shouldn't do it. Your evidence for it being useless is the fact that we've been doing it for 10 years and it has supposedly accomplished nothing. 10 years ago the pro-white right was a fringe minority, today it's a sizable and growing portion of the right, so you're wrong.

Your alternative is "talk about X" and "focus you energy on aggressively and insistently demanding X". How are you gonna "talk about " and "insistently demand" things? From your voat account? From your gab page? You gonna go on mainstream social media and get banned immediately? The mainstream media won't listen. Real life protest is the one place you can "talk about" and "insistently demand" things without getting banned (at least in the US).

How do you make a "loud, repetitive demand"? Sounds like repeated protesting.

Seems that your problem isn't with protesting, but with our protests being too tame or reasonable. Make your protest more wild and unreasonable and you will get the Charlottesville treatment, not the BLM treatment.

So either you have an actual alternative to protesting, or protesting is all we've got and you just want to do it differently but you haven't thought through what that really means or how your version is actually going to be more successful. If you did have it figured out, you'd be out there doing it.

I don't want to think that you're just a demoralization shill (though they do have bots for that in many of our echo chambers), but if you're not doing something to spread the word, whether that's protesting, flyer drops, making videos, etc., find something productive to do for the cause and do it. Lead by example. If you can't do that, stop filling up the board with page long posts about why people shouldn't do things when your only alternative is to do exactly what you say not to do. All you're doing is dragging people down so you don't have to feel bad about not doing more.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 13:44:23 ago (+2/-3)

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[ - ] FreeinTX 4 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 14:34:08 ago (+4/-0)

Is that our options?

1. Peacefully protest
2. Sit on ass/do nothing

[ - ] GrayDragon 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 14:48:20 ago (+1/-0)

3. "Mostly peaceful" protesting seems to work.

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 14:59:07 ago (+2/-0)

Only if your mostly peacefully protesting for things that the government wants.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 17:51:02 ago (+1/-0)

No, it works. It just leads to a civil war when we do it. We should be getting mostly peaceful on our protests. Let's see some fires.

[ - ] letsgetit 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 17:52:15 ago (+0/-0)

Media will surely be impartial to your protests

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 15:36:34 ago (+0/-0)

You got a better one?

[ - ] Lovemachine [op] 2 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 13:46:23 ago (+2/-0)

Waste your energy screaming into the void. That'll fix it.

[ - ] deleted -4 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 14:42:55 ago (+0/-4)

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[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 20, 2023 20:12:00 ago (+0/-0)

hey, he said something right for once