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the impossibility to create something new

submitted by boekanier to whatever 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 01:33:07 ago (+36/-0)     (files.catbox.moe)

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[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 2 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 06:14:26 ago (+2/-0)

The point is the destruction of culture.

Who listens to classical music anymore? New buildings that are attractive? Artwork that is beautiful?

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 07:58:27 ago (+0/-0)

Who listens to classical music anymore?

Lord's of the Underground aren't classical music?

[ - ] osomperne 1 point 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 19:17:12 ago (+1/-0)

Stop posting libtard pictures here motherfucker

[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 08:48:04 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] allAheadFull 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 12:57:49 ago (+0/-0)

They're quite clever at creating financial schemes to steal money.

[ - ] NuckFiggers 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 11:23:58 ago (+0/-0)

Don't forget Jimmy Olsen is a nig and Namor is a taco nigger that can't even swim

[ - ] NationalSocialism 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 08:30:53 ago (+0/-0)

The ghost busters, Spider-Man and Superman are written by jews. They can have it.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 07:56:13 ago (+0/-0)

I heard they are remaking Christine.

They are using a black 1964 Chevy Impala on 💯 spike daytons with hydros

[ - ] we_kill_creativity 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 07:42:38 ago (+0/-0)

Yes, you are finally catching up. We really do kill_creativity.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist -1 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 01:43:54 ago (+1/-2)

Superman was created by jews.

Also, all fiction is created from other works of fiction, or from observations of reality.

There's no such thing as a truly original idea.

Lord of the rings was a mashup of catholic christianity as interpreted by thomas aquinas, norse celtic and greek mythology/fables, the wagerian operas based off of germanic myth, tolkein's knowledge of european history, and his personal memories of world war one as a british soldier.

His fictional story was a collection of fictional stories cut up and mixed together along with real personal experiences.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 6 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 01:48:45 ago (+6/-0)

Creation in a context, provides context to the audience. Much language is just ossification of metaphors. Tolkien created languages and then a world within to apply them. It's more creative than a character swap.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 3 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 02:09:40 ago (+3/-0)

That's exactly right. These character swaps, or revamps, or whatever are like fucking trannies. They'll always be queer and unnatural, while the source remains pure and immutable. The reason for that is the source material came about as a labor of love and the other shit is just a pursuit of dogma, influence, and money.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 25, 2023 14:15:41 ago (+0/-0)

He created languages from his knowledge of other languages.

His world was a mashup of norse-germanic, greek-roman, and celtic-british mythology, wagner's operas, Europe's own history, and his personal experiences from fighting in the great war.

He took these things and inserted his own personal views into the work as the story and it's characters conformed to the promotion of his own philosophical and religious opinions, even his political positions were very prominent. Perhaps as an artist it's impossible not to insert your political views into your stories, even if you aren't actively attempting to insert any propaganda, your views are just natural to you and it's difficult to see things differently from the way they make sense to you, so your philosophies naturally bleed their way from your mind into your work.

The issue here is that modern entertainment is now being made by people who have a specific worldview that they use these works to promote, ideas that most people aren't happy with.

Entertainment media was always propaganda, you can't separate the last century of art from politics, most of it was political to some extent and perhaps this was always the way things were.

Superman was used by a pair of jews to promote the ideas that they wanted america to take towards jewish immigrants like themselves, someone comes from another world, they adopt a local name and hide their true selves in order to fit in, then they eventually reveal their true selves, and using their strange foreign identities they accomplish great things which change the course of society and the world forever since.

Spiderman was also written by jews from a jewish perspective with a message about living as a working class jew in a big city, being both apart from the city yet also very much a part of it at the same time, concealing your jewish identity most of the time but also regularly bringing it out in order to benefit your city rather than using it only for personal profit, the fact that you are jewish means you have an obligation to do these things which change the city around you.

The Little Mermaid was purposefully written to promote the religious and moral views of Hans Anderson, Ghostbusters was written by libertarians and has a very pro-lolbert message in it, Snow White was about the destructive force of female vanity and envy of younger women, Resident Evil carried a message about medical science and technology in the hands of corporate entities.

[ - ] we_kill_creativity 2 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 07:42:14 ago (+2/-0)

all fiction is created from other works of fiction, or from observations of reality.

Those statements contradict each other. Read it back to yourself, but this time do it r...e...a...l...l...y s...l...o...w...l...y...

The most fundamental difference between humans and animals is our ability to create. To have an original thought/idea.

If all fiction is created from other works of fiction, then who and/or what created the original work of fiction?

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 08:00:21 ago (+0/-0)

r...e...a...l...l...y s...l...o...w...l...y...

Werdz iz raycis? I used my nogcoder ring.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 17, 2023 08:50:57 ago (+0/-0)*

There's no contradiction to these statements.

They either come from one category, or from another, or from some combination of both categories.

Ok, I'll give you that point. But what counts as an original idea?

If all instances of X come from A, or from B, or from a mixture of A and B, then it logically follows that in the absence of A as a source of an instance of X, that the source is solely composed of B.

[ - ] we_kill_creativity 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 25, 2023 08:51:12 ago (+0/-0)

There's no contradiction to these statements.

Holy...fucking...shit...you're goddamned retarded...

all fiction is created from other works of fiction, or from observations of reality.

So...literally anything and everything in the entire universe...? Like...your statement excludes exactly nothing...at all. So, you might as well have said "All fiction is created during the day, or it's created during the night."

Well...yeah...I mean, that's correct in the sense that even a fucking retard could tell you that, but it's hardly profound...and it basically says nothing. Except, you followed it with "there's no such thing as a truly original idea."

And so you made the grave mistake of using a truly stupid statement to justify and even stupider statement...

And it's stupidity like yours that makes my username truly applicable to the current state of things. Because it's not like the reason we lack in creative thought is because of lack of IQ...even really smart people can be utterly uncreative...you know...people like you. :)

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 0 points 1.2 yearsFeb 25, 2023 13:12:13 ago (+0/-0)

So...literally anything and everything in the entire universe...? Like...your statement excludes exactly nothing...at all. So, you might as well have said "All fiction is created during the day, or it's created during the night."
Well...yeah...I mean, that's correct in the sense that even a fucking retard could tell you that, but it's hardly profound...and it basically says nothing. Except, you followed it with "there's no such thing as a truly original idea."

There are other philosophical views of creativity than the relation of empirical accounts and variations made upon those accounts, the history of fiction being the presentation of hypothetical alternatives which are modified in some way, and then modifications made upon those.

Where we have many epistemological vies: Some believe in divine inspiration, others believe in inherent knowledge, some claim we can find truths by instinct, others put forth the idea of truths being revealed by pure reason. Empiricism is the default right now because of how influential science is in our daily lives, but this was not always the case, and it may not be the case.

When it comes to creativity, there are many schools of thought that reject the notion that all art is abstractions of abstractions which ultimately originate from direct relations of empirical experiences. Such as the idea of "pure imagination", after all, how could you explain something like the biomechanical horrors of HR Giger?