CIA other us glowie, mossad, chinks, Russians for Nordstream? Multiple with some complicit? Just freak accidents with workers who already strikes over safety (doubtful was plausible deniability cover)
If you don't know rail workers you probably won't know this but you all are being hyped up on purpose.
Most derailments are just a couple of wheels jumping the rail while the whole train stays on the rails and the neumatic brakes shoot. This sort of derailment probably happens 3-4 times a week if not every single day; as I understand it that is what the SC derail even was.
The east palestine disaster has too many factors lining up to be a coincidence and was likely engineered to destroy the amish, huge swaths of farm land cause a domestic refugee crisis, a mass die off, and primarily create a call for nationalizing the railroads. Which this multiple derailments hysteria feeds into.
Most derailments don't look like anything but a break stopped on the tracks.
I did see a supposed picture of the texas derailment and I'm pretty sure that was caused by some retard at a crossing, which is the primary cause of most serious looking derails.
Well normally I'd say 3 times is enemy action, but this maybe an exception. Note that I am as suspicious as anyone here, but I want to be reasonable about things too.
In the case of the derailment in ohio it was caused by a "hot journal". Apparently the derailment was captured by a doorbell camerica, and you can see the glowing journal. I work for Norfolk on this line as a conductor so I can explain. No it won't be company propaganda.
The journal in this case refers to the ball bearing assemble in the center of the wheels that form the "trucks". The trucks are the pair of carrier cars (basically a pair of steel wheels) that the train car sits on top of.
The journal, or ball bearings if you like, are lubricated, but they get a lot of use so they can wear out. They are theoretically inspected, but the reality is people are lazy and miss things. Also these journal may show no outward signs of problems until they are already in failure. There is a few ways this bearing can fail, maybe the case cracks and the oil leaks out, or maybe the ball bearings themself become deformed. Whatever happens the result is the same, friction. The engines pulling these things are INSANELY POWERFUL. They can and will pull through almost anything. If that journal starts to lock up, the engine will pull it so hard that it will get incredibly hot from pure friction. Some guys have even seen journals glowing red hot, one guy said he saw one fucking melt! Fucking dripping steel.
Obviously a melted journal can and will cause the entire wheel to fail, normally this will spill the car, and if the journal is hot enough for this to happen it's normally while the train is moving FAST, the faster the train the more heat. I think you are smart enough to understand what comes next.
Anyway, is it possible it was "allowed" to fail? Eh maybe. But my issue with this is it is not something that can be controlled, I mean when or where it derails. Also just because the cars spill at high speed doesn't necessarily mean the cars will leak or explode.
So you can see, if you are going to deliberately cause a disaster to I assume fuck up food production or distract from the nordstream pipeline thing or w/e, then this seems like a very uncontrolled way to do it. Basically, I won't completely close the door on this being possible, but its a hell of a reach.
How close is east palestine to the yard? It seems to me a journal malfunctioning is a pretty solvable math problem, even with a bit of slop you could make sure it has just enough oil to run out after a certain distance and then based on weight estimates you could calculate friction until the ball begins to melt lets say your calculations give you a 25 mile stretch where the failure should happen that's still pretty precise for the purpose of putting the fallout down wind over the amish land to the east.
I had friend working the north south line for norfolk southern up until their mass cuts. He said by his figuring there is probably a derail almost every day but the vast majority are the same sort as reported in SC of a wheel or two jumping track, the brakes shooting, and you just have a stopped train.
Texas is the prototypical ugly derail where a truck loses a game of chicken with a train at a crossing.
East palestine is a uniquely rare sort of derail as far as I can tell.
People might not believe that figure but the vast majority don't look like the disasters most people think of when they hear derailment, they just looked like a stopped train but if you look closely a car or two jumped the rail and are a bit crooked.
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Most derailments are just a couple of wheels jumping the rail while the whole train stays on the rails and the neumatic brakes shoot. This sort of derailment probably happens 3-4 times a week if not every single day; as I understand it that is what the SC derail even was.
The east palestine disaster has too many factors lining up to be a coincidence and was likely engineered to destroy the amish, huge swaths of farm land cause a domestic refugee crisis, a mass die off, and primarily create a call for nationalizing the railroads. Which this multiple derailments hysteria feeds into.
Most derailments don't look like anything but a break stopped on the tracks.
I did see a supposed picture of the texas derailment and I'm pretty sure that was caused by some retard at a crossing, which is the primary cause of most serious looking derails.
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-terrorism-train-track-derailment-anarchist-group
...Or in Merrick Garland parlance, "White Supremacists".
Unsure what or who caused this one, but it's very suspicious to me: https://komonews.com/news/local/oil-train-derailed-near-site-of-earlier-terrorist-attempt-officials-say
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In the case of the derailment in ohio it was caused by a "hot journal". Apparently the derailment was captured by a doorbell camerica, and you can see the glowing journal.
I work for Norfolk on this line as a conductor so I can explain. No it won't be company propaganda.
The journal in this case refers to the ball bearing assemble in the center of the wheels that form the "trucks". The trucks are the pair of carrier cars (basically a pair of steel wheels) that the train car sits on top of.
The journal, or ball bearings if you like, are lubricated, but they get a lot of use so they can wear out. They are theoretically inspected, but the reality is people are lazy and miss things. Also these journal may show no outward signs of problems until they are already in failure. There is a few ways this bearing can fail, maybe the case cracks and the oil leaks out, or maybe the ball bearings themself become deformed. Whatever happens the result is the same, friction. The engines pulling these things are INSANELY POWERFUL. They can and will pull through almost anything. If that journal starts to lock up, the engine will pull it so hard that it will get incredibly hot from pure friction. Some guys have even seen journals glowing red hot, one guy said he saw one fucking melt! Fucking dripping steel.
Obviously a melted journal can and will cause the entire wheel to fail, normally this will spill the car, and if the journal is hot enough for this to happen it's normally while the train is moving FAST, the faster the train the more heat. I think you are smart enough to understand what comes next.
Anyway, is it possible it was "allowed" to fail? Eh maybe. But my issue with this is it is not something that can be controlled, I mean when or where it derails. Also just because the cars spill at high speed doesn't necessarily mean the cars will leak or explode.
So you can see, if you are going to deliberately cause a disaster to I assume fuck up food production or distract from the nordstream pipeline thing or w/e, then this seems like a very uncontrolled way to do it. Basically, I won't completely close the door on this being possible, but its a hell of a reach.
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I had friend working the north south line for norfolk southern up until their mass cuts. He said by his figuring there is probably a derail almost every day but the vast majority are the same sort as reported in SC of a wheel or two jumping track, the brakes shooting, and you just have a stopped train.
Texas is the prototypical ugly derail where a truck loses a game of chicken with a train at a crossing.
East palestine is a uniquely rare sort of derail as far as I can tell.
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