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Pistol or a Shotgun?

submitted by watts2db to Guns 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 13:08:14 ago (+6/-2)     (youtube.com)

https://youtube.com/shorts/umRQ-245VF0?feature=share



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[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 7 points 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 13:11:16 ago (+8/-1)

this test proves that niGGers are too stupid to realize that shot placement is more important than shooting fast.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA -1 points 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 15:33:33 ago (+2/-3)*

You've never been in a close quarters combat scenario.
I've seen fully-trained, theater deployed, kids literally piss themselves the first few times they were in combat.
Organic reality doesn't care what you think you know.
Considerations like shot grouping go out the window.
Muscle memory and training takeover.
If you're not well trained, and let me assure you, you're not, then you'd be lucky to hit the broadside of a barn at 10 feet.
This is not personal, this is fact.
I've been out for years now and I'm no longer proficient in dealing with the adrenaline surge or the fight or flight response either... And I once really enjoyed it.
For non-active duty, combat trained, personnel I recommend a 20 gauge shotgun with birdshot.
The Mossberg Shockwave is an excellent choice.
The Remington V3 Tac-13 is another if you absolutely must have a 12 gauge.
For you and I, the issue isn't shot placement, it's penetration.
What's on the other side of that drywall?
Are you going to kill your kid?
The neighbor?
The dog?
A passerby?
You don't know how a round will behave once you release it.
It could go anywhere.
Birdshot will deliver your message and at the range we're discussing, likely be fatal to the assailant.
What it is not likely to do is over-penetrate and cause you to sit in jail for 18 months on an involuntary manslaughter charge.
Or incur a civil suit by the relatives of the victim.
Even then, I recommend USCCA or CCWSafe.
Think about it as murder insurance.
If you're going to carry or wield a firearm, your primary threat - besides yourself - is civil liability.

[ - ] MaryXmas 1 point 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 16:02:30 ago (+1/-0)*

7.5 or 8?

I say this but in reality, I would reach for a 45-70.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 1 point 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 16:24:43 ago (+1/-0)

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA -1 points 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 16:14:12 ago (+0/-1)

I'd have to see some gel tests.
I'd bet there are some on Youtube.
When it comes to birdshot, people often forget we're invariably talking about distances under five yards.
At that distance, we're talking about a 3-5 inch spread...
It will undoubtedly fuck someone up.

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 0 points 1.3 yearsFeb 12, 2023 06:50:48 ago (+0/-0)

10 gauge with a loading order of

birdshot, buckshot, slug, repeat...

for me personally, handgun with a 410 buckshot is better as my house has rather narrow angles.

3006 for "theres a car approaching my house and i dont expect anyone".

some people become stone cold once the killing happens. you dont seem to be one of them.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA -1 points 1.3 yearsFeb 12, 2023 14:21:55 ago (+0/-1)*

Do what you're going to do.
I've laid out my rationale.
I've provided a link with supporting ballistic data by an authoritative source.
Any variants on the approach that respect the result are valid.
As for the dig at the end?
I've got two tours and more confirmed kills than you've got fingers.
I'm speaking from firsthand experience having killed an actual human being.
How about you?

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile -1 points 1.3 yearsFeb 12, 2023 14:26:16 ago (+0/-1)

shitskins arent human, try again highschool boy XD

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 0 points 1.3 yearsFeb 12, 2023 15:03:55 ago (+0/-0)*

So you're saying you've got nothing...
No experience.
No training.
No kills.
Just internet bravado.
That's what I thought...
Learn to recognize fact from fictional faggotry.
Not everyone is here to fuck with you.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 18:33:11 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 0 points 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 20:21:35 ago (+1/-1)

Fuck off, spic.
Two tours.
I speak where and when I choose.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 1.3 yearsFeb 12, 2023 00:48:02 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA -1 points 1.3 yearsFeb 12, 2023 01:05:25 ago (+0/-1)

I'm sorry, why are you still talking?
Don't you have a welfare check to collect?
Run along now, I don't answer to cockroaches.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 1.3 yearsFeb 13, 2023 16:42:20 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 0 points 1.3 yearsFeb 13, 2023 21:16:09 ago (+0/-0)

Thank you.

[ - ] PearofAnguishJuniorManager 3 points 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 13:33:56 ago (+3/-0)

This nigger going to carry a shotgun with him while he’s chillin’ in the park? The shotgun is for the house. Get a pistol and learn to fire it. But not at whitey, please.

[ - ] ReincarnatedGoat 2 points 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 13:56:47 ago (+2/-0)

why not both?

mossburg shockwave

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 1 point 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 16:00:40 ago (+1/-0)

Correct.
But for home defense, you don't need more than 20 gauge.

[ - ] ReincarnatedGoat 2 points 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 17:07:49 ago (+2/-0)

i thought the shockwave was 20 guage.

[ - ] ReincarnatedGoat 1 point 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 17:17:24 ago (+1/-0)

just looked it up. they make both for the shockwave.

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 1 point 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 17:46:38 ago (+1/-0)

Why are you making me listen to niggers? Don't do that.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 0 points 1.3 yearsFeb 12, 2023 15:10:14 ago (+0/-0)

LOL, valid response.

[ - ] Bufordxl 1 point 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 13:28:34 ago (+1/-0)

Yes.

[ - ] voatersaredumbasses 1 point 1.3 yearsFeb 11, 2023 13:15:30 ago (+1/-0)