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Elements of the u.s. government will drop a nuclear weapon on a major u.s. city before or on May 26th.

submitted by prototype to chatter 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 01:46:50 ago (+16/-5)     (chatter)

The cities they will target will likely be in the following list:

New York.
Nashville, Tennessee
St. Louis, Missouri
San Francisco
Miami Florida

The weapon will specifically be nuclear, not biological, not chemical.

Consider
1. the dollar and the euro are both going down in flames, in competition

2. every nation that backed their currency by gold or oil and didn't cooperate with the u.s., we
eventually went to direct war with

3. every move by the u.s. appears to be bankrupting and destroying us on the national stage.
We are partially being given our commands from outside nations.

4. NATO is not entirely cooperating with going to war with russia. If the intent was to bankrupt
and weaken europe (to prevent competition with the u.s.) then the euro must fail. It is not failing
fast enough, and NATO is hesitating too much. Any bombs or weapons dropped on europe will result
in american and allied involvement being exposed. Therefore they cannot go this route

5. this is very likely the reason why we saw early rumors spread about this very thing happening:
"nuclear bombs being dropped in europe" and talk about nuclear material being smuggled into london--
it is a distraction, a look-of-there moment.

6. therefore we will have to go to war directly with russia. The public does not support this.

7. in every world war, germany was used as the lever.

8. it is being used again as the lever.

9. but in both incidents we had major false attacks.

10. if a false attack comes, it cannot be in europe, because it would only make americans more
hesitant and fearful of involvement. Plus its too distant. it would not rally the NIMBY types,
who rather say "not our problem" even if they virtue signal publically about supporting ukraine.
They don't want fallout in their backyard. Therefore in order to get them into such a war,
that is what it will take to motivate them. That and nothing less

11. If the "deaths are ramping up from the vaxx" rumors are true, and it wasn't just a sterilization shot,
but part of a mass die off, then this makes everything prior to this bulletpoint significantly more likely. If the vaxx IS a sterilization shot, they will need an excuse for why people are becoming infertile, "fallout" will be that excuse.
heres why..

12. As the deaths or infertility ramp up they will need a gargantuan distraction. Many times the casualty rate of 9/11.
Lets say 100-250k people (or more) dead.

13. A nuclear bomb satisfies this more controllably, and more readily, than an outbreak. The outbreak
narrative failed. An attack of this type is completely unprecedented on the u.s., and with all the
rumors of "cyberattacks", and "new bioattacks", it makes all of these events less likely, and
all the unstated events, nuclear attacks, more likely the angle of approach.

14. inflation rates are now terminal, so there is a limited window to enact the "cleanest dirty shirt" strategy.
Which requires either that the economic hemispheres (east and west) are entirely severed, thus isolating
and limiting the risk of on-shored cash causing a greater crash--or for the financial order to be completely
upset, such as an american lead war in europe, in direct confrontation with russia.

15. lots of war deaths would cover the vaxx deaths.

16. fallout will be blamed for vaccine damage

17. new stricter masking, and other measures, will become mandatory and federally enforced with
lockstep state support, and various levels of control to prevent blowback. "masks protect against fallout",
Iodine pills available to the public, as rations from the government, will also double as the vaccine.

18. Russia will be blamed for providing the weapons, while the left and militant black groups will be
blamed for the attack. This is to radicalize them, through persecution, against the right.

19. The left will double down on anti-russian sentiment, and become that more verocious in their support
of the u.s. regime, as a psychological reflex to being called terrorists.

20. this will morph into the patriot act on steroids, which in addition to tearing down
old leftwing activism, will, after a period of gloating and rightwing support (because they'll be
going after the left), will expand to going after the right as well.

21. Except for brief and scattered state or regional outages, power and communications will stay on
or be restored after as little as a week, and two weeks for any multi-state regional outage.

22. We will see reports of anyone question the narrative, being aggressively assaulted by individuals,
and outright attacked on occasion by small mobs. This will be very frequent, and will be targetted
against anyone questioning the masks, the pills, the curfews, any new censorship, or anyone who
has doubts about how the attacks happened or who carried them out.

23. Car tires will "carry fallout", likewise trucks, and thus will be limited to essential travel only.

24. to "prevent further attacks" TSA will be expanded to busses, and random (but limited) checkpoints
that are temporary in nature, but larger and disruptive, in order to push a new normal. The military
will be brought in on a "limited bases" to handle these larger checks, but will not be deployed on
a regular basis

25. as this is happening, the war effort will be rolling out. To shore up "production shortages" the governors
offices will pledge the weapons in national guard armories. They will empty them out in practice, without
replacing them.

26. As the war heats up, there will be talk about survivalist/terrorist "hoarders", with too many bullets,
that could be used for the war effort against russia. There will be talk about ammunition taxes
(based on "asset appreciation").

27. We will see greater restrictions, registration, paperwork, cost, and fees for backyard gardens and
amateur farm operations (chickens, pigs, goats, etc), as well as a handful of raids against
"illegal farming" every month widely publicized and hyped on the media. Part of this will be to
prevent "hobbyists from contaminating the food supply with fallout", i.e. chickens picking at bugs,
or cows eating contaminated grass. It will be expensive to have food checked, and so many farms
will shut down, funneling business to only major approved megaoperations, much like was done
with walmart during the covid lockdowns. This fearmongering also pulls doubleduty to choke off
any mom-and-pop gardnerers by making the public too scared to buy food grown by their neighbors
"potentially contaminated with fallout."

28. we will see a huge resurgence in "nazism" in the u.s., almost exclusively federally funded and
directed. Not more than x20 times its current hardcore followers.
This is to siphon of political, social, and military willpower from any consolidated public dissent
or public support for resistance against the new normal.

29. As all of this is going on, we will see a wave of terrorism across europe, and cyberattacks
against their infrastructure, forcing them to rely on american and chinese support.

30. there will be no door to door gun confiscations, just constantly, intentionally spread rumors about it.
instead we will see enormous roll back of existing wins in the courts, followed by outrage and
widely circling talk and fear about confiscations. Oddly, the confiscations will largely not come.

31. Gas will either go to $7-8 a gallon as we tap out the SPR, and sell of mining rights to major
national forests and nature reserves in order to pay for more, or oil will go to $150-200, as gas
reaches $5-6 a gallon nationwide. This is to keep people hurting and waiting for the worst, while
it holds steady at the new normal and crunches them hard so they start strongly limiting their
economic activity.

32. rent moratoriums are made permanent in some areas at first, and then rolled out by several states
with talk of big "court battles."

33. The courts appear to shoot down the moratoriums, while in practice leaving huge loop holes, or
only saying it is up to the states to decide. This was the precedent set with abortion.


Other reasons for the u.s. to become directly involved (necessitating a major attack on u.s. soil):
1. the presidency is decrepit, and whoever controls the executive has little time. To assure their weakest-minded (and thus easiest influenced) asset is still in place when europe, russia, or the u.s. goes down, they will have to move on whatever their plan is before the next elections. That at minimum puts a 1-2 year upper limit on any major turn of events.

2. the war effort in ukraine is risking exhaustion and thus loss of momentum. There is not
the public will to expand further currently, so if the war exhausts supplies on both sides, it won't easily be restarted. The break out of peace is the greatest threat at this time to the u.s. dollar (the second is the war itself). A multi-polar world once established will be almost impossible to put back in a box, so the dollar will fail anyway. This is the straussian's thinking. All or nothing. On this basis they will in fact move to strike within russia, even using the u.s. to do it directly.

3. On this basis they will likely attack a russian ally, maybe turkey, or iran, in order to force russia into a multifront war, or abandoning its allies, which would pretty much open a pandoras box of questions about whether its place in BRICS and thus the alliance itself, is a solution to USD replacement.

4. the gun rights movement is cohesive, and economically consolidating. They are succeeding, wherease all the cohort politicians and NGOs which succeeded in rolling 2A back, are geriatric and failing. Breaking the gun rights movement is key to breaking civic nationalism, and in turn balkanizing the u.s. Therefore there is a limited 10 year window where this can happen if the regime wants to win total control over the u.s. and plunder both europe and russia while maintaining a unipolar world.

5. Control of food is always the playbook, and therefore control of energy is essential.
All aspects of modern life, have been policed at one point or another in u.s. culture.
We've seen the examples on youtube. We've read the articles. We've seen the actions by the DOJ. The strategy of death by papercut can and does work, and they will ramp it up enormously much like they did with the drug war. if its just a $200 fine or "permit" for chickens, how many people are going to get into a militant confrontation with city or county authorities? Even if all their neighbors are going through similar things on a dozen different aspects of life, if the strategy attacks ALL aspects of being able to live, the problem becomes psychologically too diffuse and too LARGE for any one person or group to reason about, and so the public can and will go along with it. This can and will work. This is how they will do it. How do I know this? Because this was the strategy perfected in new zealand and australia.


A nuclear attack on the u.s. is very likely (60-70%) coming within the next four months, and then massive lockdowns and persecution.

Prepare accordingly.

Edit:

On this basis, if russia is going to be blamed for an attack on america, their best and only chance to control the narrative is to be the ones to actually carry out such an attack, and I predict this is what they are already considering. This would explain recent talk of russia esp "the u.s. are the only country in history to drop nukes on another country."
I do not think, if russia carried this out, that they would do so directly, but would use a proxy, such as iran or an eastern european proxy.
By doing it this way, instead of the u.s. forcing a multifront war on russia, russia could force a multifront war on america while denying america a reason to enter the war.
(a third party country not directly tied to russia would be the candidate "responsible" for attacking america).

Ideally this candidate would be selected in such a way that it most complicates the american relationship to NATO, with as minimal ties to russia as possible.

Both iran and turkey offer plausible deniability in this regard, but syrian and lebanese agents also fit the bill simply because it plays on the distraction element while working with americas own conceptions of the middle east due to 9/11. This pulls double duty because it pushes countries which are indecisive, into russia or chinas sphere of influence in order to find security from the americans and israelis.

However, if russia does NOT act in this manner, there can be no doubt they are run by fools. because america will undoubtedly bomb itself, picking the heartland for maximum psychological impact, consolidating control, re-stabalizing itself, and justifying a full blown nato war against russia.

This exact model is what informed my decision to predict that russia WOULD invade ukraine early on. When all the experts, and I do mean all of them, including people on the right, said russia would not. The thinking went that if the war was bound to happen, then it was infinitely preferable for Russia to choose the result on their terms.

I predict they will make the same choice as before.




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[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 01:54:25 ago (+1/-1)

[ - ] RoxannaHardbutt 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 02:50:52 ago (+1/-1)*

https://i.postimg.cc/SRyCHmcz/Nukes-US-2.jpg

Nukes have been going off all over the place for decades, as well as the West, Texas and Big Springs, Texas detonations, and the Lebanon, Bali, Manitoba and Fukushima events detailed in the image above.

https://i.postimg.cc/j5NYBbRK/AU-Embassy-Jakarta-2004.jpg

The Australian Embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia was nuked in 2004..

https://i.postimg.cc/nhM56J15/AB2.jpg

The US Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya were nuked August 7, 1998..

https://i.postimg.cc/6pL2Jk5r/tianjin-crater.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/T1N1QbGh/Gaza-2014.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/GtxJpqkV/Beirut-Explosion.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/4y9qFkRt/Hamburg.jpg

August 12, 2015 the Chinese Port of Tianjin was nuked, as well there have been other detonations in Gaza, in Lebanon and in Hamburg Germany.

https://i.postimg.cc/gJRxzjvT/OKC-2.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/bYgzQ1NR/WTC-Collapse-2-Towers.jpg

Nor let anyone forget nukes were deployed against US infrastructure in Oklahoma City in 1995, and at the WTC in New York September 11, 2001. Nukes at the WTC on 911.

[ - ] Treefart 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 13:09:54 ago (+0/-0)

I'll admit some of your pics are real head scratchers

[ - ] rapid_water 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 05:18:41 ago (+0/-0)

I respect Anyone who makes future predictions like this. Put it in writing and let's see...

[ - ] con77 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 11:45:08 ago (+0/-0)

HEY! I CAN WATCH THE KARDASHIANS ON MY PHONE!

[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 12:14:41 ago (+0/-0)

If I predict nothing will happen every time new end of the world fear porn psyops are released I will be correct 100% of the time

[ - ] SocksOnCats 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 12:58:48 ago (+0/-0)

Haha. No.

[ - ] kammmmak 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 13:33:31 ago (+0/-0)

The jews wet dream

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 17:45:21 ago (+0/-0)

partially given commands by outside forces?

You are dense as lead

The United States was overthrown and the government has been run by a foreign occupation government since at least the day JFK was murdered in broad daylight. More realistically since Christmas 1913 when the federal reserve act was enacted.



[ - ] iThinkiShitYourself 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 19:04:07 ago (+0/-0)

the dollar and the euro are both going down in flames

No they're not. The US dollar cannot go away or " down in flames"

the european currencies have to go through a natural process of weakening to swing back britain will have the best currency once its all done

[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 01:57:58 ago (+1/-0)

Putin will have to respond significantly to the upsurge in Western military aid for Ukraine or he'll be seen as a damp squib.

[ - ] prototype [op] -1 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 02:17:27 ago (+0/-1)

The KGB still exists, and has pretty much complete control of all the key levers of the russian government. The reasoning that support this is that, were they not in control, they would not have been able to expel many of their oligarchs.

"putin's support internally is wavering" is either

1. western self-soothing and projecting strength (because intelligence agencies are currently playing telephone and ending up with messages with origins unknown, probably originating with the agencies themselves)

2. a possum (russia) playing a shell-game of hiding their political structures internal cohesion. It's a headfake for western analysts. I said early on that if russia could turn this into a game of attrition, they could win. The u.s. would try to fake-it-till-we-make-it gliding on our own hubris that we can win through attrition, but I predicted that strategy, once it began to fail, would give way to massive-strike thinking, and it has. It would be preferable to putin if he could keep the west forever thinking "at any moment russia is going to turn against its leadership, its upper management is gonna commit a coup, or is near to one."
Russia anticipated that beforehand, which is precisely why they got rid of the oligarchs to begin with. If there was a risk of this, they wouldn't have begun the operation to begin with.

3. both.

[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 02:01:05 ago (+1/-0)

"The Admiral Gorshkov frigate is said to have recently diverted towards the coast of the US in a provocative show of strength." (The Australian Newspaper).

[ - ] prototype [op] -1 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 02:18:47 ago (+0/-1)

Shaping up to be cuba all over again.

Once bitten, twice shy applies to both sides, so peaceful deescalation isn't in the cards. Both sides don't just want to win, they have to.

So someone is gonna end up pressing the button somewhere in the u.s.

[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 02:19:56 ago (+1/-0)

They're a cult, not just money grubbers. They all decided back in the early 1990's that desroying industrialized (meaning gentile) nations was a great idea to save the world. You're making a mistake if you think the rich goyem don't actually believe in it.

They've been culted into thinking they're born by divinity to save the world and that means destroying chunks of the "collective" because they really don't see you as human or individual. They're really really nuts. Not just fucking you up for money.

[ - ] totes_magotes 1 point 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 07:21:39 ago (+1/-0)

1. the dollar and the euro are both going down in flames, in competition

That was the goal of printing all of that money and flooding the Europe area with it in the name of the Ukraine. The US economy was failing because of it's response to COVID and bound to crash. How do you soften the blow? Use another large economy as a landing pad.

2. every nation that backed their currency by gold or oil and didn't cooperate with the u.s., we
eventually went to direct war with

Watch "All Wars Are Bankers' Wars" to understand this.

3. every move by the u.s. appears to be bankrupting and destroying us on the national stage.

In order to give the WEF et al a more powerful position.

Any bombs or weapons dropped on europe will result in american and allied involvement being exposed.

The only reason there were classified documents exposed in Biden's property(ies) was to dirty him so there's no chance for re-election. His previous dealing with the Ukraine and fomenting dissent and rebellion would surface in the event of that war and be a rallying cry for a direct nuclear strike.

talk about nuclear material being smuggled into london

London is an invasion stronghold of immigrants. That would only serve to inflame the Middle East.

6. therefore we will have to go to war directly with russia.

The same manipulative tactics used in WWII are being employed here. Different people, different lines, different targets but the script is the same. "Old tricks are the best tricks."

The public does not support this.

Never does. That's why Biden has been sullied. He's been pushing Russia et al into this war and once that button is pushed, he will have done his job. That's why Trump was so hated. They knew they couldn't control him like that.

7. in every world war, germany was used as the lever.

There's only been two. I'd focus more on the events used to force Japan into believing that they had no choice but to enter the world stage using the stairs of war.

9. but in both incidents we had major false attacks.

[citation required]


Dear God, dude, you wrote too much here...

10. if a false attack comes, it cannot be in europe

Wrong. That's white people. They'll rally.

11. If the "deaths are ramping up from the vaxx" rumors are true, and it wasn't just a sterilization shot, but part of a mass die off

The sterilization bit was a distraction. That should have been obvious the second we saw "vaccine spikes" in the brain because that indicated that it wasn't a respiratory disease but a cardiovascular one that only happened to infect via the respiratory system.

then this makes everything prior to this bulletpoint significantly more likely

Eh, maybe but only insomuch that it reduces the population making armed takeover easier should it come to that.

"fallout" will be that excuse. heres why..

Fallout only happens when the nuclear fireball actually touches the ground. Nuclear bombs are far FAR more effective when detonated in the air above the target. The first strike will be an EMP, detonated miles above the target. In the US, that would almost certainly be above Kansas where it will destroy all 3 power grids (yes, there's only 3: East, West, and Texas because Texas still has wet dreams about succeeding from the US). That will disable most response systems reliant on electricity and throw the US back into the 1800s with an ensuing death rate approaching 90+% within 3 months. The recent attacks on the power grid has outline (for the people following them) that the major transformers are NOT kept on stock and take years to make, ship, and install. Each. There's also only once place on the planet that can make ours: China.

Fallout, if there were to be any, would first cause mass amounts of cancer, generally appearing first as a strengthened immune system but increased exposure would eventually lead to diabetes and thyroid failure first (the thyroid being the most vulnerable since it's iodine uptake requirement and it can't discern radioactive iodine from "good" iodine). After that, depending on the level of exposure, more classic radiation symptoms will appear either later or in concert with the other health issues.

Fertility is NOT on the top list. It's up there, sure, but with a whole list of other problems probably the worst of which being that parents wouldn't live long enough to raise those children, possibly even birth them.

14. inflation rates are now terminal

They were last year. There's a simple financial strategy that everyone should know. "If you want to double your money in 10 years, you only need an annual 7% increase." When inflation hit 7%, that should have been a panic point for everyone paying attention. Why do you think wealthy people have been so fucking desperate to build their wealth especially once the first inflation hikes hit close to that number? It won't take long before we're paying double for every--... oh, right.

15. lots of war deaths would cover the vaxx deaths.

Except they're not going to go around counting anything. They're going to say "We see this many thousands dying in this one area right here" and then apply that to every area, drawing a calculated number.

17. new stricter masking, and other measures, will become mandatory and federally enforced with
lockstep state support17. new stricter masking, and other measures, will become mandatory and federally enforced with lockstep state support

If there is indeed fallout, you really really don't want to breathe that in. Volcanic ash, for example, becomes cement in your lungs. The good part of a fallout inhalation is that you no longer have to worry about inhaling COVID.

Iodine pills available to the public

Already available to the public. Taking them longer than 14 days, however, damages your thyroid.

as rations from the government, will also double as the vaccine.

lol, no. The "rations" you speak of will be regular MREs that have been sitting on a shelf, made years ago because the companies that made those (at the lowest acceptable bid, by the way) will be shut down due to power and no one willing or able to work to make more). The US military forces will get "first strike" rations (stripped down MREs) while the everyone else" starves because for those to do any good they would have to be actually distributed. It's an interesting thought but you should have thought more about that because in any scenario such as what you describe, you have to assume the infrastructure to distribute them is still in place. Additionally, it also assumes that people will quietly wait in a line or at a distribution center and that won't happen.

18. Russia will be blamed for providing the weapons, while the left and militant black groups will be blamed for the attack

Okay, I can see that. Not sure it will be spread around, less sure it will be accepted so it will die an early death but okay.

19. The left will double down on anti-russian sentiment, and become that more verocious in their support of the u.s. regime,

Russia was always the left's boogyman.

Good God, why did you write so much???

20. this will morph into the patriot act on steroids

I think you're getting off the rails here. There will be no functioning government and we'll be under a permanent marshal law.

21. Except for brief and scattered state or regional outages, power and communications will stay on
or be restored after as little as a week

Please see previous point about an EMP first strike.

22. We will see reports of anyone question the narrative, being aggressively assaulted by individuals (etc etc)

Nah, there will be roving gangs taking all your shit in less than a week. Anyone who would have spoken out is likely to already have been killed by this point. All that will be left will be groups, gangs, and thugs (and the occasional survivor who can hide who they truly are but those are so rare as to not even be worth noting).

23. Car tires will "carry fallout", likewise trucks, and thus will be limited to essential travel only.

Within three weeks, even the heaviest fallout areas will be down to less than 90% of the radiation that was dropped onto the ground. After 4 weeks, it's pretty much gone though can still be kicked up from the dirt if you kick hard enough.

After that, the US had better start planning for the next year because you'll have to remove the top 6 inches of soil for planting.

24. to "prevent further attacks" TSA will be expanded

The TSA is nothing more than a showcase "security theater" organization with the sole intention of harassing citizens. Nothing more. It is staffed primarily by high recent high school graduates, wannabe thugs who are too chickenshit to try to be a street thug, etc. No one in the TSA believes what they are doing. It's just a job for them. Besides, if everything else you say is true, no one will care enough to keep doing their job there.

Okay, Imma just stop there because I don't have time to write a freaking novel plus your later points are all dependent on your previous points being 100% correct which they are not. Even if those points are only 75% correct, it will derail your though train here.


[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 14:36:58 ago (+0/-0)

What an excellent fucking response. Thank you totes. Too much to respond to at this moment, but I have a couple things I want to highlight.

That was the goal of printing all of that money and flooding the Europe area with it in the name of the Ukraine. The US economy was failing because of it's response to COVID and bound to crash. How do you soften the blow? Use another large economy as a landing pad.

Fantastic and concise explanation, thanks.


The only reason there were classified documents exposed in Biden's property(ies) was to dirty him so there's no chance for re-election. His previous dealing with the Ukraine and fomenting dissent and rebellion would surface in the event of that war and be a rallying cry for a direct nuclear strike.


So what you're saying is, all the more reason this will become a full blown conflict?

I'd focus more on the events used to force Japan into believing that they had no choice but to enter the world stage using the stairs of war.

I'm actually not familiar enough with what forced japan to attack. If you are, I'd appreciate a basic overview of what you know about it.

Fertility is NOT on the top list. It's up there, sure, but with a whole list of other problems probably the worst of which being that parents wouldn't live long enough to raise those children, possibly even birth them.

No it isn't, but the public doesn't know that. "radiation is sterilizing", etc, would be the propaganda. What makes you think that the "jab causes sterility" was a distraction? Does it have to be untrue necessarily, to also be a distraction?


The issue with transformers and height of explosion illustrates why they would resort to ground explosions. My premise is the cyberattacks narrative is a distraction and they don't want to give up the propaganda system, which is 100% reliant on networks. Sure 'some' websites, websites they dont like, or services they no longer care about, might go down. But for them to stay up or be recovered quickly, an emp would definitely not be in the cards. That leaves fallout from ground explosions. It doesn't have to last long. It only has to scare people to death, and something like that definitely will. In fact the shorter the real effects the better--the state can resume activity, at its discretion, restructuring how everyone lives, and rapidly redeploying ground security and enforcement.

There will be no functioning government and we'll be under a

There is always a plan and contingencies for disaster. The government doesn't simply go away.

The US military forces will get "first strike" rations (stripped down MREs) while the everyone else" starves because for those to do any good they would have to be actually distributed. It's an interesting thought but you should have thought more about that because in any scenario such as what you describe, you have to assume the infrastructure to distribute them is still in place. Additionally, it also assumes that people will quietly wait in a line or at a distribution center and that won't happen.

Under crash or hyperinflation scenarios, a common tactic state's resort to is rationing to prevent them being toppled.
People stood in line patiently during covid, and maybe they will this time, maybe they won't. Thats no matter.
The military accepted the vax (96%, though I wonder if that number isn't massively inflated), and in a starvation scenario they'll take rations contaminated with the spike protein as well. In fact this is more likely under that scenario, simply because they accepted the vax already.

Theres enough hardenning in the military and core federal services to get a skeleton crew up and running anyway. Even if there wasn't, it's all the more reason they will resort to a ground burst, rather than an emp. Likewise all the more reason a manufactured cyber attack either won't happen, or will mostly exclude core, essential government functions.
It'll just be all of us that have to deal with something like that.
You see how the reasoning supports the conclusion?

The TSA is nothing more than a showcase "security theater" organization

Exactly. But its also a conditioning mechanism for the public. We get used to a massively expanded TSA, we won't fight back if or when the military becomes a regular patrol and enforcement element a decade down the line. With an economy in shambles, why wouldnt the government expand bullshit agencies precisely to keep people busy and dependent?
Hell they could even guarantee them first-in-line for gasoline rations, vouchers, and MREs. Didn't you say the military gets first-strike rations? Well whose behind them? The bureaucracy and its employees.

Thank you for the time you took to write your response, it was really thorough and didn't just agree with what I wrote, but challenged the premise.

[ - ] totes_magotes 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 16:50:57 ago (+0/-0)

So what you're saying is, all the more reason this will become a full blown conflict?

Nah, it's how they're going to cover it up. Get Biden out of the light but do it gently so as not to dirty the Democrat party name. Softly so people forget. The war business? Remember, there were, what? 13? 30? US biolabs in Ukraine? Keep the conversation on the war until you can get Pedo Joe out.


I'm actually not familiar enough with what forced japan to attack.

I don't have details but I do have a summary for you.

Japan didn't want anything to do with anything in the war. But the US was itching to use its War Stopping bombs and they needed a non-involved target that no one in the war would rush to the defense of. The quick and dirty is that there were a number of things that the US did to antagonize Japan so that they'd attack. It was deliberate.

Sound familiar? Keep blaming Russia for everything. Keep treating Putin like shit. Keep being corrupt in the Ukraine. Foment dissent and support the groups in the Ukraine that Russia is trying now to purge. Keep doing this for years until they jump in and say "Fuck you". And then they found the biolabs.

I mean... isn't it just absolutely amazing how we went months without Russia pounding the nuclear war drums and then several countries at the same time says "Let's give them tanks!" Like, really? That was just coincidence and not anything deliberate, right???


The issue with transformers and height of explosion illustrates why they would resort to ground explosions

Look up Starfish Prime. 250 miles up, 900 miles away, 14 megatons, still EMP-fucked Hawaii.

Ground explosions, if they happen at all, would come later. A high altitude EMP strike would happen first. Hell, it's front paged on here now where Russia did a simulation that jammed US communications for what, like 30ish seconds?

They'll absolutely do an EMP First Strike to knock out all electronics and prevent a fast response.

There is always a plan and contingencies for disaster. The government doesn't simply go away.

No, it doesn't but when shit goes to shit, they don't care about you. Remember that, huh?

People stood in line patiently during covid,

COVID wasn't a disaster that destroyed infrastructure. Time and again, when the infrastructure collapses, people start killing and looting each other. This will be no exception.

rations contaminated with the spike protein as well

The hydrochloric acid in your stomach (pH 1-3) will destroy it.

Theres enough hardenning in the military and core federal services to get a skeleton crew up and running anyway

And they'll be focused on preserving themselves and the politicians first, the government second, the land third. We plebs don't even make the list.

We get used to a massively expanded TSA, we won't fight back if or when

There's a really big difference between dealing with it because you want to make your flight so you don't lose your job and being governed by a military skeleton crew that won't be able to handle squat because it's so undermanned.

Didn't you say the military gets first-strike rations

First Strike rations are MREs with all of the accessories and extra packaging removed in order to make them lighter, smaller. It's just a stripped down MRE, that's all.


[ - ] Rebooted 1 point 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 11:54:20 ago (+1/-0)

Bullshit, but can we make this a poll?

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 14:10:45 ago (+0/-0)

"but can we make this a poll?
Reply"

I could, but a sample less than 35 doesn't tell us anything meaningful.

[ - ] beece 1 point 1.2 yearsJan 27, 2023 21:41:02 ago (+1/-0)*

@Prototype :questions (and a statement)

1st) Why May 26th? That seems more than random....as opposed to "Sometime before June".

2nd) Why would Russia not fully unleash the full might of their nuclear triad which is believed to consist of over 6,000 warheads once the first US explosion occurs? They know they did not cause it and that they'll soon be in the inevitable full on war, why will they not jump into it full on?

3rd) Do you personally live within striking distance of a russian nuke, and are you currently and actively (as in have already called the Real estate agent and listed your city house and are right now moving to the country). Have you actively encouraged your loved ones to do the same?


Also, Totes is 100% correct on his WW2 point. The book "Operation Snow" by John Koster is a fantastic historical read and will answer your question (and more).

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 1.2 yearsFeb 2, 2023 17:32:40 ago (+1/-0)

This post was way longer with a ton more detail, but apparently I logged out in another tab, so when I hit submit, the bulk of the submission was lost. Mainly it was talking about wind patterns in your second question, explaining why they would prefer a small nuclear strike on the u.s. over a large one, and as a response to number three, why we're all likely fucked anyway in the event of any nukes being launched. Can't be arsed to retype it all at this time, so I'll post what I backed up as I was typing (in case I did something stupid like accidentally reloaded the page)

Alright, this is gonna be a wall of text, so hang in there for a moment.

1st) Why May 26th? That seems more than random....as opposed to "Sometime before June".

Part of it is how dates are picked. Whenever a prediction is made, it is important to make a written note, with no initial numbers. This includes things like your assessment in general language "highly likely", "very likely", "possible", "probable" etc. This is very important for later determining accuracy and precision, and I'll tell you why in a moment.

Second putting a general time on the prediction is important.

Both of these, plain language and time are important because you want to model the variation in your own expectations (as a sort of black box) versus the reality.

So for example, my predictions tend to be off by a factor of three. Whatever I predict tends to happen in 1/3rd the initial time, so I adjust every prediction before posting. I was able to learn this by making predictions with given date ranges, and then seeing when they definitely failed or succeeded. And now I can do that in software, but I'm going off on a tangent.

Second, the general language is then translated into percentages or percentage ranges, putting a confidence interval on not just the prediction accuracy, but the mapping of the descriptor to that percentage. For some people "very likely" might mean "20% chance" while for others it might mean "80%". The key thing is, we don't really have a way of removing this variation without logging and examining it ourselves. Once you do that, you get much better at putting a number on the chance of an event coming to pass.

I considered heavily a few dozen other factors if this scenario is to come true, including russia's prior playbook
(my successful prediction of a ukraine invasion). What that told me is that they are outcome focused, over material constraints focused. The u.s. in russia's shoes, would not have invaded because material constraints would have prevented them from winning at the time at a scale that would satisfy the u.s. in russia's position. But because russia is focused on potentialities (the ruble being crushed by export/swift restrictions, long term loss of their culture to u.s. neoliberalism, etc) they overlooked the short term material constraints, and chose to intervene in a much more limited fashion.
They also were concerned about what would happen if the u.s. was allowed to start the war on u.s. terms. Which was the model I had of russian military thinking. This was, it turns out, likely the correct, or most useful model at the time.

These considerations which russia overlooked, are the very same that have so far kept the u.s. in check at all. The establishment isn't saying it, but it isn't sure it can win without large scale loss, which is untenable politically. And while elections are irrelevant, public sentiment still has to be managed. It is also why the western tact of saying "russian's hate putin!" won't work. Russia's military isn't prone to taking public sentiment into consideration, and has less of that internal division to muddy the waters. Which means assessments that both russia, and therefore the russian people, consider this war to be an existential threat, are accurate.
Hence why I say the u.s. is materially constrained. We're trying to tip toe through a minefield, to fight without fighting. Because again, we're not sure we can win. At the same time we're playing the "we want to provoke russia, so russia loses standing on the world stage!" card as a headfake, same as before. The playbook hasn't changed and the behavior stays the same: in crisis, double down. But I've gone off on a tangent.

So may 26th. Why may, why the 26th? My initial assessment was 1 year out for this event. This is a date I put on non-technological one-off events with indeterminate dates but otherwise strong short term indicators. Twelve months divided by my model bias put it at four months.

I then go back, and rather than just accept this, I ask whether this is a 'reasonable' timeframe, and what, if anything supports or doesn't support this range.

First, may is when the ground will begin thawing, which will hamper any invasion of russia (or vice-versa), so if something WERE to happen to get the u.s. directly involved in such a war, it would either have to be in or before may.
There are some arguments to be made that the CCP has co-opted components of the u.s. government, as have the brits. If this is true,then invading when the ground is thawing would sabotage u.s. war efforts, and thus hurt us economically. At the same time it makes fighting russia somewhat easier in some respects (u.s.soldiers are not well equipped to handle russian winter--no one is except maybe the finnish, which might explain the attempt to incorporate them into NATO).
There is currently a war between the fed and london over if the stirling will crash in favor of the dollar (triggering the great 'dirty shirt' unwinding some are hoping for), so britain would be very happy for the u.s. to exhaust itself against russia, and a war would cement germany against russia again, killing any realignment that threatens the dollar and the EU.

This is of course all supposition, but it isn't outside the realm of thinking by some of the most accurate experts out there.

So May, or before then. But when in may? June and July are too late, because then it is well into summer, and the month prior and leading up to July 4th the u.s. is going to be on much higher alert.

Also, I assume the u.s. would act too late not to hamper it's own entry (or NATOs entry) into the war. This would be either out of incompetence, or internal subversion by foreign elements, or some mixture of the two. The two week range would be anywhere from May 14th, to the end of May.

But also there is the possibility, based on russia's own playbook, which is already established, that they would act before the u.s. does. Effectively this lets them controlwhen and where the u.s. or nato inevitability enter the war, the severity of the event, the target, and how bad the international reaction is to it. it also means they can engineer the event to insert plausibile deniability, and potentially pin the attacks on another nation entirely, forcing the u.s. into some other side-venture that is damaging to our ability to sustain ukraine. In otherwords, both sides have every reason to commit some sort of false attack or provocation on the u.s. or u.s. allies. In my earlier post I explain why it would be the u.s. that is likely the target of that attack or provocation, but I won't waste your time reposting it here when you've already read the original post.

[ - ] beece 0 points 1.1 yearsFeb 4, 2023 11:12:56 ago (+0/-0)

@prototype - Well written and thought out. I'm in disagreement of your 70 percentage, much less chance, but you make a near ironclad case for your prediction. To anyone reading this who is feeling like it's total bullshit, please do a search on the term "Operation Northwoods". Please also remember that wiki is heavily edited by US government people. https://veteranlife.com/military-history/operation-northwoods/

Thank you for the response and thoughts prototype.

[ - ] yesiknow 2 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 02:38:11 ago (+2/-0)

Oh and.."2. the war effort in ukraine is risking exhaustion and thus loss of momentum. There is not the public will to expand further currently".

Public will is not and has not been of any concern for longer than you've been alive.

They manufacture consent through the media before they fuck you and fuck other countries.

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 14:12:07 ago (+0/-0)

"Public will is not and has not been of any concern for longer than you've been alive."

When I refer to public will, I mean "will the public fight us if we try to drag them full-on into this?"
Manufacturing consent is important, and thats also part of the process. They don't have the public consent at this time and thats what I'm saying.

We didn't have the consent for ww2 either..until pearl harbor happened.

[ - ] BoraxTheFungarian 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 15:23:06 ago (+0/-0)

They said theey got consent, and you’re proving their propoganda works by believing them. They just said it wass what everyone wanted and everyone went, YEAH!

[ - ] con77 2 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 11:45:48 ago (+2/-0)

can we do SF and NYC?

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 14:15:43 ago (+0/-0)

can we do SF and NYC?

NYC might be one of their targets, because they usually reuse the same playbook, and they already have the human infrastructure in place from 9/11 to carry out, and cover up, an attacks origin in NYC.

San Fran might be an option if they want to justify foreign troops on our shores for "relief aid", or to soften up the west coast. Would greatly disrupt much of the internet because of how much software is hosted there, so I don't see it as likely.

Other targets considered were chicago, but I don't see them hitting chicago, because unlike the stock exchanges which are gonna crash or hyperinflate anyway, chicago hosts a lot of insurance providers and their head quarters. It is the second political heart of the u.s. after D.C.
So maybe.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 12:50:00 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] Spaceman84 2 points 10 monthsMay 25, 2023 20:20:52 ago (+2/-0)

You need meds

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 10 monthsMay 25, 2023 21:54:20 ago (+1/-0)

You need meds

Nope. "speculation is the same as being crazy!" <- someone who never had an original thought in his brain.

[ - ] deleted 3 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 11:59:58 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] prototype [op] -1 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 14:10:08 ago (+0/-1)

"Are you a poli sci student?"

Best insult so far.

[ - ] goatfugee12 3 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 13:39:30 ago (+3/-0)

What a fun fantasy, I quit at #18

#18 is backwards, white nationalism will be blamed, it will be blamed on Kanye and nazi's meaning any white nationalism will be lumped in with domestic terrorism. Whites will be put in camps.

[ - ] prototype [op] -1 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 14:08:42 ago (+0/-1)

"What a fun fantasy, I quit at #18"

The thinking is they actively want to discourage copycats. Blaming the right would be giving the right credit, which would be giving it energy. They're not gonna do that.

So their only other option is to pull an "oops, we blamed white supremacists, but look here on 'alt media'! It was actually this other boogieman on the opposite side of the aisle!"

They don't want a real fight, so first they have to convince everyone on our side that no one on our side is willing to fight.

[ - ] Nosferatjew 5 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 02:47:27 ago (+5/-0)

/yawn

whatever bro

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 7 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 02:09:40 ago (+7/-0)

some of u guys masturbate to this doomsday shit

[ - ] Bottled_Tears 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 14:25:31 ago (+0/-0)

Me. I do. Vigorously.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 19:43:29 ago (+0/-0)

i'll let u know when the jews are actually going to do it so u can stop cumming early

[ - ] AryanPrime -1 points 10 monthsMay 26, 2023 06:33:11 ago (+0/-1)

how can you predict something when you can't even call kike filth by a term other then it's stolen name lmfao

[ - ] paul_neri -1 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 02:35:21 ago (+1/-2)

"doomsday"! Bro, this time next week it will be the beginning of the end. It will all be over. No more world.

[ - ] 3Whuurs 12 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 02:20:21 ago (+12/-0)

You forgot to post this in “shit I made up and have zero reason to believe”..

[ - ] KangzNSheeit 0 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 20:48:26 ago (+0/-0)

But they had a very specific date. Must be true.

[ - ] prototype [op] -3 points 1.2 yearsJan 26, 2023 02:23:15 ago (+0/-3)

"You forgot to post this in “shit I made up and have zero reason to believe”.. "

If I wanted to do that I would have posted it to v/all

[ - ] Ozark 0 points 10 monthsMay 25, 2023 20:16:10 ago (+0/-0)

Why did you send me your phone number?

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 10 monthsMay 25, 2023 21:53:29 ago (+1/-0)

Why did you send me your phone number?

Because why not?

"oh my god, someone on the internet likes to talk to real humans!" is the vibe I'm getting.