Sigh, you still fail to understand that after having been saved by grace you obviously are not given liberty to sin. If you think God seeks the lawless to dwell with Him in the kingdom you will be disappointed.
Lol, it’s only you who wants me to be under the law. Jesus offers salvation by grace, but he also makes it clear that for every good reason we should keep the commandments and not sin.
Yes we are to keep His commandments and not sin. I've said as much. The Old Testament are not the commandments he has commanded us to keep.
That is what we are to grow into.
Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
I am not without the law. I am in Christ Jesus and follow his words. And in his words are no lie or variableness/shifting of shadows.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Gal 5:2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. Gal 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Gal 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Obeying the law through love does not constitute being under the law.
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Exactly; that's the point the New Testament is making! That's the point Paul is making!
Obeying the law OF love does not constitute putting yourself under the yoke of the Old Testament(the Law).
That's exactly what that passage means.
You use it and yet you understand it not!
You need the Lord! You need to read Galatians and take it to heart! You need to read Romans and take it to heart!
The Law of Love is the Law of Christ! WAKE UP!!!!!!!!
Luke 14:1 And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him.
2 And, behold, there was a certain man before him which had the dropsy.
3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day?
4 And they held their peace. And he took him, and healed him, and let him go;
5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?
6 And they could not answer him again to these things.
He has fulfilled of the law! To love one another IS the fulfilling of HIS law! You love another by bringing him to healing/wholeness in the Lord, by telling them the truth! By bringing the wayward sheep back into the fold!
You yoke yourself. Do not yoke yourself to the Old Testament or you are under the curse! Be free in the grace of the Lord Jesus and the love of the Word and the Father and the Spirit will work through you, that you will not offend!
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’
23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Am I saying I've done those things? Am I exalting myself saying, "See here, look at my works!?"
You have posted this out of context because you don't understand the Word.
I've informed you multiple times of Paul's writing. Paul has said multiple times that the Law is the Old Testament.
Being without the law means "doing what you want". Being under the Law of Christ is when you have the Holy Spirit indwelling, He will take the stony heart and replace it with a one of flesh, Philipians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 25, 2023 10:17:12 ago (+0/-0)
If you think God seeks the lawless to dwell with Him in the kingdom you will be disappointed.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 25, 2023 13:43:04 ago (+0/-0)
You are projecting your misunderstanding onto me.
Because you don't have his spirit guiding you.
Good seeks those who worship him in spirit and in truth.
You are not saved if you put yourself are under the law, you are under the curse.
You haven't been given a new heart with his laws written on it.
It's obvious by what you don't understand.
Head knowledge doesn't save you, knowing Him does. Humble yourself and seek him while he may be found.
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 25, 2023 14:22:51 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 25, 2023 14:52:31 ago (+0/-0)
That is what we are to grow into.
Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
I am not without the law. I am in Christ Jesus and follow his words. And in his words are no lie or variableness/shifting of shadows.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Gal 5:2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
Gal 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Gal 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
This is very clear. You need to wake up.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 25, 2023 15:06:32 ago (+0/-0)
... Literally your back to back responses...
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 25, 2023 16:29:04 ago (+0/-0)
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
John 4 KJV
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 25, 2023 16:47:29 ago (+0/-0)
Obeying the law OF love does not constitute putting yourself under the yoke of the Old Testament(the Law).
That's exactly what that passage means.
You use it and yet you understand it not!
You need the Lord! You need to read Galatians and take it to heart! You need to read Romans and take it to heart!
The Law of Love is the Law of Christ! WAKE UP!!!!!!!!
Luke 14:1 And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him.
2 And, behold, there was a certain man before him which had the dropsy.
3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day?
4 And they held their peace. And he took him, and healed him, and let him go;
5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?
6 And they could not answer him again to these things.
He has fulfilled of the law! To love one another IS the fulfilling of HIS law! You love another by bringing him to healing/wholeness in the Lord, by telling them the truth! By bringing the wayward sheep back into the fold!
You yoke yourself. Do not yoke yourself to the Old Testament or you are under the curse! Be free in the grace of the Lord Jesus and the love of the Word and the Father and the Spirit will work through you, that you will not offend!
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 25, 2023 17:14:37 ago (+0/-0)
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’
23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Matthew 7 NKJV
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 25, 2023 17:21:07 ago (+0/-0)
You have posted this out of context because you don't understand the Word.
I've informed you multiple times of Paul's writing. Paul has said multiple times that the Law is the Old Testament.
Being without the law means "doing what you want". Being under the Law of Christ is when you have the Holy Spirit indwelling, He will take the stony heart and replace it with a one of flesh, Philipians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
You are under the curse.