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Want to see how many kikes work at voat?

submitted by McNasty to whatever 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 14:57:55 ago (+7/-11)     (whatever)

Here is a picture of the Chicago skyline from the Michigan shoreline at 60 miles away.

https://files.catbox.moe/o3hnot.jpg

Here's an abc57 piece talking about the picture taken of the Chicago skyline from the Michigan shoreline at 60 miles away.

https://www.abc57.com/news/mirage-of-chicago-skyline-seen-from-michigan-shoreline

It should be impossible. Chicago should be hidden below the horizon 2000 feet. But they give an explanation.

A picture of the Chicago skyline taken almost 60 miles away, is actually a mirage.

But it can't be a mirage because a mirage is an inverted image created by a reflection. But they explain this away.

This is a form of Superior Mirage, superior in this meaning the mirage or image of the skyline is seen above where it's actually located.

Convenient wouldn't you say? Lol. Except for the fact they provide a link that explains what a "superior mirage" actually is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fata_Morgana_(mirage)

A superior mirage can be right-side up or upside-down, depending on the distance of the true object and the temperature gradient. Often the image appears as a distorted mixture of up and down parts.

Now I personally have questions about this. Like how would distance or temperature negate the inversion of a reflection? That just doesn't make any sense. This phenomenon only occurs when somebody is trying to explain why an object is visible when it shouldn't be. There's literally no other example of a reflection negating inversion other than this scenario but let's assume it does even though that's retarded. It's still a reflection off of the atmosphere, or what I like to call the either, that is at a distance of at least 2000 feet above it and the atmosphere isn't a set object. It is comprised of gases that are not uniformly set and therefore would have distortion.

Here's the earth curvature calculator.

https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/earth-curvature

So can anyone explain how the skyline is casting a perfect non-inverted reflection 2000 feet above it and point out the "distorted mixture of up and down parts" that would occur due to the reflective surface being compromised of moving gasses that are not uniformly set?

And if you claim refraction can achieve such an effect, can you give an example of this phenomenon on a smaller scale? Because if it can't be reproduced on a smaller scale, then your argument is no different than telling me the Holocaust happened simply because people said it did.


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[ - ] UncleDoug 7 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:24:49 ago (+8/-1)

Refractive index

Also elevation determines the distance to the horizon.

OP is the second dumbest fucker on tlol.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:30:19 ago (+2/-4)

Reproduce it on a smaller scale of fuck off kike. They say 3 million bodies were burned in the holocaust leaving only ashes. This also can't be reproduced. It's the kike way to say some dumb shit without providing tangible proof.

[ - ] UncleDoug 5 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:34:45 ago (+6/-1)

OP pulls out the handbook on logical fallacies rather than trying to stick to the topic.

Have you ever been offshore?

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:38:41 ago (+2/-4)

Obviously, you don't understand that there's an equation for earth curvature that is being challenged. I bet you call it a fallacy to deny the holocaust because you know, all the scientific evidence.

[ - ] dalai_llama 6 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:54:43 ago (+7/-1)

No, you're a fucking kike trying to equate flat earth faggotry with holocaust propaganda.

You're a fucking kike and you should kill yourself immediately.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:05:44 ago (+2/-4)

Curvature is an equation. Don't get all kiked up when it doesn't add up.

[ - ] dalai_llama 2 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:09:02 ago (+3/-1)

Every second that you're still alive is a second wasted. Kill yourself now.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:17:38 ago (+1/-0)

You kikes would love that wouldn't ya. Lol. Tell more more about how I should trust the science. Hell, maybe you'll talk me into believing the Holocaust or getting a vaccines. You know, because of all the scientific evidence.

[ - ] dalai_llama 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:24:28 ago (+1/-1)

Kill yourself you dirty kike.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:43:17 ago (+1/-0)

lol. Look at all you kike faggs reeeing over the simple equation. I say 2+2=4. You say 2+2 can equal 6 under certain circumstances but can't reproduce said circumstance. Instead of doing that, you accuse me of what you are guilty of. Being a kike.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG -1 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 17:16:33 ago (+0/-1)

It only doesn't add up when there's a nigger calculating.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 17:27:57 ago (+0/-1)

NASA is a nigger. I'd agree. They are the ones that did the calculating, and it doesn't add up. The question is, why do you believe the explanation they give for it not adding up? It's not evidence. It's simply an explanation.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG -1 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 18:03:30 ago (+0/-1)

You never read about the niggers of ancient times.
Now is your chance.
You think nasa curved the earth.
Because you can't even fucking spell Galileo much less replicate his equations IRL.
You on the short bus my nigger. With a little ape helmet.
🦧 🚐
Deniggering available, hire a white person to click the link for you and explain the big words and the math.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=galileo+calculations.+curvature&ia=web


[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 18:10:35 ago (+0/-0)

Let's all pick up a kike book and forget about the fact the earth curvature is debunked. I know it should be impossible to see an object 60 miles away over a body of water, but this learning book really makes me smart. Next, I'll learn all about the holocaust from a learning book. Fuck it if it's impossible to burn that many jews in the amount of time they claim it happened. This book says it happened and it's a history book.

Ahh. The life of a kike cuck.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:30:50 ago (+1/-1)

It can't be produced by an ape nigger. A white man has no trouble solving for this equation.
A nigger doesnt even know this is an equation....*hence your confusion.*

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:37:30 ago (+2/-2)

If the results can't be reproduced, then you're just a kike defending the institutional explanation for why the earth curvature is undetectable. I see this as no different than defending the reality of the holocaust. You accept explanation instead of evidence.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG 6 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:00:19 ago (+8/-2)*

You obviously don't sail
Only niggers don't sail... unless a jew is driving!!!

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG 1 point 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 17:50:43 ago (+1/-0)

I fucking love that sailing joke thanks for the opportunity to use it you dumb nigger.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -3 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:23:50 ago (+3/-6)

I know that if I were to sail from Michigan to Chicago, it's a strait shot of 60 miles without curvature.

You are doing the kike thing by pretending there isn't a scientific consensus on the curvature of the earth that is easily debunked. kinda like how kikes tell me the reason no mass graves exist from the holocaust is because NAZI's burned them all. The science does not allow it, but kikes will insist it is what happened.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG 5 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:26:39 ago (+6/-1)

You've never seen a superior mirage or a green flash for that matter you are a land lubber nigger, scratching your head like a baboon wondering why the sea is the way it is.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -3 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:35:44 ago (+2/-5)

A mirage is a reflection. Reflections are inverted. A mirage can be reproduced on any scale. A "superior mirage" of a non-inverted image is a kike explanation that can't be reproduced on any scale. It literally only exists when they try to explain why the curvature isn't hiding objects beyond its peak.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:29:28 ago (+1/-1)

This why we did not allow niggers on the internet or to vote.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:39:01 ago (+2/-2)

You can't reproduce the science behind your claim. You are a kike. That's really all it comes down to.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:44:28 ago (+0/-0)

You can't perceive the world around you properly because you are a nigger ape.

White men, sentient beings who hold opinions infuriating to the ape nigger understand the math involved and how to calculate and check the math for veracity.

When they hear a nigger like you hooting the earth is flat and nobody can prove otherwise....

We immediately understand you never passed 9th grade geometry or 8th grade algebra.

We fully comprehend that you are an illiterate uneducated nigger because the VERY BASIS of your argument requires a level of ignorance and stupidity so unattainable by humankind that you must be texting us from a rubber tire swinging from a rope in a cage with hay on the floor.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:55:03 ago (+0/-1)

Cool story. Now tell me about the time you sucked your first baby dick rabbi.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG -1 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 17:15:38 ago (+0/-1)

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 17:29:26 ago (+0/-0)

Cool story. You sure know how to kike up a thread.

[ - ] TheBigMan 5 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:47:33 ago (+5/-0)

Have you studied optics at all?

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG 1 point 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 17:29:30 ago (+1/-0)

Screw your optics. I'm going in!

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:02:26 ago (+2/-4)

Yes. I know that a mirage is a reflection casting an inverted image onto the gasses above the object. This is reproducible on any scale. I know that "atmospheric lensing" is when gasses create a lensed effect and magnify an object. This can be reproduced on any scale. Refraction is the bending of light that can be caused by temperature or density of surrounding matter. This can be reproduced.

What can't be reproduced is a phenomenon where an object casts a perfect non-inverted imagine of itself in midair above itself. This only "happens" when kike science is trying to explain why an object that should be well beyond the horizon peak is visible.

Basically, if the claim is that these objects are experiencing a scientific phenomenon, then I need to see it reproduced. otherwise, it's like I'm being told the holocaust happened because of scientific evidence. I need proof, not explanation.

[ - ] deleted 4 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:19:04 ago (+4/-0)

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[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:26:54 ago (+3/-4)

You should probably stop if you can't understand why seeing the Chicago skyline from 60 miles away is a giant fuck you in the globe theory. But it's more likely you're a kike ready to suck NASA dick.

[ - ] SumerBreeze 1 point 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 17:42:13 ago (+1/-0)

The buildings are sticking above the Earths curvature - you cannot see the shorter ones. This image refutes your claim, idiot.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 21:18:59 ago (+0/-0)

First of all, it is the entire skyline including the base. Second, we're talking about 2000 feet of obstruction.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 17:49:05 ago (+0/-0)

At no point has this ape in a zoo cage bothered to search how a superior mirage works. At no point. Because....nigger ape. 🦧

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 21:36:23 ago (+0/-0)

I did. A mirage is an inverted reflections. There is no explanation that explains how a non-inverted mirage can exist. There is no example other than when a kike is trying to explain why an object isn't hidden beneath the horizon on a curved Earth.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 01:09:53 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 01:42:27 ago (+0/-0)

No you haven't. Now you're just being a dumb dumb. Lol.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 09:10:16 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 15:12:54 ago (+0/-0)

No. Chicago skyline can be seen 60 miles away. I ain't making that up.

[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 0 points 2.3 yearsJan 1, 2023 21:19:05 ago (+0/-0)

Not following, but i hope someone gets punched in the dick

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsJan 1, 2023 21:44:11 ago (+0/-0)

My point is that voat shares a general understanding that jews have influence over every major institution. If we are talking about the Holocaust, it is acceptable to crunch the numbers and ridicule those that defend the institutional explanation as to why the numbers don't add up. If we're talking about COVID, it is acceptable to crunch the numbers and ridicule those that defend the institutional explanation as to why the numbers don't add up. If we are talking about jet fuel collapsing buildings, it is acceptable to crunch the numbers and ridicule those that defend the institutional explanation as to why the numbers don't add up. If we are talking about elections, it is acceptable to crunch the numbers and ridicule those that defend the institutional explanation as to why the numbers don't add up. You get the point. We don't trust the institutions here.

My theory with voat is that it is mostly kikes pretending to be anti-semitic. They create such an extreme environment of anti-semitism that it is unappealing to somebody that is not already aware of the kike problem. It creates an echo chamber. Nobody comes here to learn about the kike problem. They come here to vent about it. If we are going to post information that exposes kikes, they'd prefer we post it in an echo chamber that has no impact on the outside world. So I get voat. I get why there would be kikes posting the most extreme anti-semitic posts.

That brings us to the flat earth. It is beyond anti-semitism. It's a subject that will attract people that might not be aware of the kike problem. It creates an opportunity for those people to engage in our environment. So kikes that would normally pretend to be anti-semitic and post about kikes controlling all major institutions will drop the act on the flat earth subject. They can't have this truth being accepted even by this echo chamber of anti-semites. So instead of it being acceptable to crunch the numbers and ridicule those that defend the institutional explanation as to why the numbers don't add up, they flip the script and ridicule those that are doing the math and asking why the numbers aren't adding up.

[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 0 points 2.3 yearsJan 1, 2023 22:08:43 ago (+0/-0)

I've pondered these things. Just not flat earth

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsJan 1, 2023 23:16:53 ago (+0/-0)

As for the kikes pretending to be anti-semitic on voat, a common giveaway is their username. If you hate jews so much, why would you give them a place in your identity? It's like they're trying too hard and saying, "look at my name, I'm one of you guys." Lol. Just look at all the names of users in this thread that are regurgitating mainstream explanations for impossible events. No different than arguing with someone that says jet fuel can melt steel beams.

As for flat earth, the scientific consensus is that Earth's curvature is 8 inches per mile squared. This equation allows a person to measure how far away the horizon would be based on the observers height. Anything beyond this point would began to sink below the horizon. This allows the measurement of obstruction by the horizon. In the photo I provided, Chicago should be completely hidden beneath the horizon. I mean "completely." The Willis Tower is the tallest building in Chicago at 1750 feet and the horizon's obstruction is over 2000 feet. There is no credible explanation for this. To believe it is a mirage is to believe jet fuel can melt steel beams.

[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 0 points 2.3 yearsJan 1, 2023 23:43:38 ago (+0/-0)

I'm not a geographer man

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsJan 1, 2023 23:50:10 ago (+0/-0)

Lol. You don't have to be. I'm not asking you to create the equation of Earth's curvature. I'm saying one already exists. If you are smart enough to use a calculator, then you are smart enough to verify the equation. The equation does not add up.

Are you going to tell me the Holocaust happen because you're not a historian?

[ - ] Love240 1 point 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:45:25 ago (+4/-3)

Retards don't do well with thought experiments. Even here. You're not going to logically convince them out of a position they did not logically arrive at.

I.E. it's extremely difficult(nigh impossible) to logically move somebody from an emotionally held position.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:33:02 ago (+2/-2)

My theory about voat is that it is mostly kikes posting extreme anti-semitics. Don't get me wrong, I'm anti-semitic myself but what I see here is something I call the Alex Jones effect. Alex Jones will share some truths, but he does it in such an outrageous way that it's unappealing to anybody that doesn't already understand those truths. He is a mossad kike. This kind of behavior promotes voat as an echo chamber. Nobody comes here to learn about kikes. They come here to vent about kikes. And although it would seem to be full of anti-semites that question the influence that jews have over every institution in the world, the one thing that is unacceptable is questioning the science of the globe earth. The equation can easily be debunked yet all the kikes on voat will cling to is the "scientific evidence" provided by the same institutions they claim are lying about everything else. Like the explanation given for why an object can be seen beyond the peak of the horizon. It cannot be reproduced. It has as much credibility as the science behind how the Nazis cremated millions of bodies. I live in a world where people believe the Holocaust was real. People believe vaccines are safe for them. People believe we went to the moon. It's a retarded world. All of these same people will call me retarded because I asked for evidence instead of explanations.

[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 17:44:06 ago (+0/-0)

Anti-semitism, retard. Flat earth would be true it you could see the short buildings that are hidden by the curvature in the photo.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 20:47:53 ago (+0/-0)

Do the math faggot. Not only can the entire skyline be seen, we're talking about 2000 feet of obscurity.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 17:52:54 ago (+0/-0)

You can't expect rational behavior from irrational people...that is irrational and illogical.

However, you can entertain yourself proving how much of a stupid fucking nigger they are, OP is the real zoo deal!! 🦧

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 21:23:42 ago (+0/-0)*

lol. Asking for evidence of the curvature on voat is like asking for evidence of the holocaust on reddit. The dumb kikes act exactly the same.

[ - ] Spaceman84 -1 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 16:15:31 ago (+2/-3)

That's rich coming from a Christian.

[ - ] SecretHitler 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 22:35:28 ago (+0/-0)

It sounds like the temperature and weather conditions make this possible, and it's not always visible, even on a clear day.

Sounds like you've proven yourself wrong.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 22:39:33 ago (+0/-0)

temperature and weather conditions make this possible

This would effect the distance of visibility. It will not unobstruct 2,000 ft of curvature.

You have answered with kike logic. Thank you. Try again.

[ - ] SecretHitler 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 22:43:27 ago (+0/-0)

No you don't get it. Under normal weather, on a clear day, it sounds like you can't see the buildings. You've proven the earth is round.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 23:02:30 ago (+0/-0)

Lol. You dumb fuck. If there was curvature, you'd NEVER be able to see it. Weather and temperature can change. On the right day you can see it. Like driving your car on a foggy day opposed to a clear day. Curvature never changes. If curvature exists then you would NEVER see it.

[ - ] NotAntifa75 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 19:20:16 ago (+0/-0)

The curvature of the Earth is 8 inches per mile (source: https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/earth-curvature#curvature-of-earth-per-mile)

At 60 miles you should drop 60 * 8 inches = 40 feet.

That pic shows the tops of buildings that might be missing about 40 feet.

Maybe the Earth is round?

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 19:46:15 ago (+0/-0)

The link you posted confirmed that it's 2000 feet.

https://files.catbox.moe/eg6g65.png

At 15 feet above sea level the horizon is 4.74 miles away.

An object 60 miles away will be obscured by 2036.12 feet.

Maybe you don't know how to read.

[ - ] sguevar 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 22:41:56 ago (+0/-0)

The question I have is the following, why 15 feet if the the picture was taken from Michigan shoreline. Meaning at the coast. Eyesight level should be way lower.

If The shore line is at sea level then my eyesight would be at 1,76 m. As sea level = 0.

If the Michigan shoreline is higher than sea level then the visibility is higher as well.

Where does this 15 feet come from?

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 22:58:19 ago (+0/-0)

why 15 feet if the the picture was taken from Michigan shoreline.

Because I was being generous. 15 feet would produce less obstruction than say 5 or 6 foot eye level which would result in a higher number than 2000.

If The shore line is at sea level then my eyesight would be at 1,76 m. As sea level = 0.

Exactly. That's why you have to put the height into the equation. I put over double the height of an average person. This would produce less obstruction than the reality of a person standing on the shoreline. Even with less obstruction, the number is still 2000 feet. The Willis Tower is the tallest building in Chicago. It stands at 1750 feet.

If the Michigan shoreline is higher than sea level then the visibility is higher as well.

This is irrelevant. The equation is for curvature. As long as both the Chicago shoreline and the Michigan shoreline share the same height, curvature can be measured as if it is sea level.

Where does this 15 feet come from?

I gave enough margin of era in favor of the curve fagg. Obviously we can put 6 foot in and I can say there's 2166 feet of obstruction but that is unnecessary when 15 feet produces 2035 feet of obstruction. The tallest building in Chicago is 1750 feet.

[ - ] sguevar 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 23:35:55 ago (+0/-0)

The problem with your view here is that there are other pictures taken from the same area which show no buildings at all.

Your whole point uses just one picture but there are plenty showing the existence of the mirage. Or are you telling me they were all photoshopped?

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 23:51:13 ago (+0/-0)

The problem with your view here is that there are other pictures taken from the same area which show no buildings at all.

I have a weather app on my phone that tells me what the visibility is each day. Weather can affect visibility. It can't affect curvature. If you can't understand the concept of fog impeding your vision then you are too kiked to ever understand what a mirage is.

Your whole point uses just one picture but there are plenty showing the existence of the mirage.

No. A mirage is an inverted image caused by a reflection. We are not looking at an inverted image.

Or are you telling me they were all photoshopped?

I'm telling you that mirages have to be inverted and are irrelevant anyway. Even if this was the only picture, which there are other examples such as lighthouses, mountains, ships, and so on, it would prove that there is no curvature.

[ - ] sguevar 1 point 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 01:03:52 ago (+1/-0)

I have a weather app on my phone that tells me what the visibility is each day. Weather can affect visibility. It can't affect curvature. If you can't understand the concept of fog impeding your vision then you are too kiked to ever understand what a mirage is.

I will restrain myself from calling out your obvious - lets call it "naivety" - that require you to simply default to calling someone kiked or kike by not holding your point of view. This just as a courtesy given the fact that you provided calculations which seem to fit your narrative but avoid other variables.

Regarding your app in the phone.That is irrelevant as well, and the reason for that is that in several pictures I have looked for which were taken from the same place, the mirage is not showing up. And I did this little research again as courtesy given the fact that you provided calculations. But then again... fitting your narrative.

No. A mirage is an inverted image caused by a reflection. We are not looking at an inverted image.

Wrong. You are taking just one part of the definition to fit your narrative. The first definition is: "an optical phenomenon, especially in the desert or at sea, by which the image of some object appears displaced above, below, or to one side of its true position as a result of spatial variations of the index of refraction of air."

It doesn't necessarily means that it always have to be inverted. Specially not from a place that can reflect the light, such as the sea.

Additionally, what do you call an illusion of an oasis in the Desert? You don't see that inverted. You see it above the ground in the horizon due to what? a mirage.

I'm telling you that mirages have to be inverted and are irrelevant anyway. Even if this was the only picture, which there are other examples such as lighthouses, mountains, ships, and so on, it would prove that there is no curvature.

What you tell me falls beside the point. Flat earthers always try to use some part of the whole scheme at convenience of what they want to say and when proven wrong the default into tantrums just as I have seen you do in your entire post.

"Muh people don't agree with me... they are kikes..."

It doesn't help your position and instead of proving to be right you keep digging your own hole where to crawl.

You asked for proofs, you can easily research pictures of the same place with different weather conditions in which the mirage does not appear. And see that in fact the illusion is posible.

If your reply is going to be something in the sorts of "muh you kiked or dumb" thing... well refrain from doing it... You can only project so much when you are incapable of listening to others, or agree to disagree... so in that tone... fuck off we are full.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 01:41:11 ago (+0/-0)

Lol. You dumb. Weather can affect visibility not curvature. Like when it's foggy out and you can't see a car three lengths in front of you. This effect can vary. Maybe the next day it's five lengths. Maybe the next day it's 2 miles.

but avoid other variables.

There is no other variable. Weather does not create a special mirage that does not invert. It's impossible.

Regarding your app in the phone.That is irrelevant as well

It literally tells you how far a human eye can see in the current weather conditions. Meaning that it's a perfectly acceptable explanation as to why you can't see something you might normally be able to see on a clear day.

several pictures I have looked for which were taken from the same place, the mirage is not showing up.

For one, it's not a mirage. A mirage is a reflection. Reflections are inverted. Facts. But it is also very rare to have 100% visibility over 60 miles of water. Rare. Not impossible.

You are taking just one part of the definition to fit your narrative.

I don't care about definitions. The Holocaust will be defined as a genocide of 6 million jews. I only care about facts. You cannot provide me a single example of a mirage that is not inverted. The only examples that exist are when the curvature is in question. If it were possible, you could reproduce the results on a smaller scale.

It doesn't necessarily means that it always have to be inverted.

That's why the definition is wrong. It's scientifically impossible for a reflection to not be inverted. Refraction is something different. Like a pencil in a glass of water making the pencil appear like two pieces. Or like fish in a river not being exactly were they appear when viewed outside of the water. Again, this phenomenon you speak of cannot be reproduced on a smaller scale. It only exists when the institutions that gave us the earth curvature is trying to explain why that curvature isn't hiding objects behind it.

default into tantrums just as I have seen you do in your entire post.

Because I simply disproved curvature by using the calculations provided by the institutions that say there is curvature. The explanation I am given as to why it doesn't add up has no more credibility than telling me that Nazi gas chambers have wooden doors.

Specially not from a place that can reflect the light, such as the sea.

Reflections are inverted. There is no way around it.

Additionally, what do you call an illusion of an oasis in the Desert?

If it is a mirage, it is an inverted reflections of the land onto the gasses above it. It might not be as recognizable as a building would be when inverted but it is inverted.

Muh people don't agree with me... they are kikes

That's specifically my opinion here on voat. People here should be smart enough to understand how much influence kikes have over all of the major institutions. But to be in a place that denies the Holocaust, denies safe vaccines, denies global warming, denies school shootings, and so on, it's pretty obvious that there is an effort to defend institutional explanations for the lack of curvature. If this was elsewhere, I'd just call you a dumbass.

You asked for proofs, you can easily research pictures of the same place with different weather conditions in which the mirage does not appear.

So on a foggy day when visibility is low and I can't see three car lengths in front of me, does that mean the earth curvature starts at two car lengths? How do you not understand that visibility has nothing to do with curvature but can affect the distance a human eye can see?

And see that in fact the illusion is posible.

If curvature existed you would NEVER see the skyline. Weather phenomenons do not flatten out the Earth temporarily.

You can only project so much when you are incapable of listening to others

You are a dumb faggot that thinks an institutional explanation is proof.

[ - ] SecretHitler 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 19:06:31 ago (+0/-0)

Op you're too combative to even talk about this with.

I think flat earth is rediculous but I would change my mind if someone proved it well. You have to talk like a civilized human to do that though, and this includes recognizing that you're making an outrageous claim and treating the subject accordingly.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 19:49:56 ago (+0/-0)

Combative? Lol. You're a retard. This post is just to show how many kikes will defend NASA. I'm not here to teach about curvature. I'm here to teach about kikes. The fact you defend the kike science is proving my point. Jews have influence over every institution. Even science when it comes to vaccines and historical events like the Holocaust but God forbid you question their influence on earth science.

[ - ] SecretHitler 1 point 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 20:11:01 ago (+1/-0)

I guess you showed me how combatave you're not by calling me a retard right out of the gate.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 20:31:13 ago (+0/-0)

Yes. You are a retard. My post was to show an example of the amount of kikes that will drop their anti-semitic act to defend kike academia.

[ - ] paul_neri -1 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 21:29:39 ago (+0/-1)

I'm so glad to have met you, SH, a civilised human being! There's now 2 of us on the site!

[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 23:39:52 ago (+1/-0)

Kikes aren't human.

[ - ] Laputois 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 18:19:44 ago (+0/-0)

Frequency, specifically radio waves nigger. Higher frequencies are limited to line of sight. In the gigahertz range Those same higher frequencies are detectable from a satellite because it is within line of sight. Lower frequencies will travel the (GLOBE) and can be received by the sender after a predetermined time period. Because they are refracted off the ionosphere and bounce around the curvature.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 19:00:16 ago (+0/-0)

Frequency can't project a perfect non-inverted imagine 2000 feet above an object you dumb nigger kike.

[ - ] Laputois 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 21:32:55 ago (+0/-0)

No, but it easily disproves flat earth.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 21:37:55 ago (+0/-0)

I don't care what shape you think it is. Curvature can be tested with the curvature equation. There is no curvature.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 15:48:18 ago (+2/-3)

Here's the earth curvature calculator.

https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/earth-curvature

So can anyone explain how the skyline is casting a perfect non-inverted reflection 2000 feet above it and point out the "distorted mixture of up and down parts" that would occur due to the reflective surface being compromised of moving gasses that are not uniformly set?

And if you claim refraction can achieve such an effect, can you give an example of this phenomenon on a smaller scale? Because if it can't be reproduced on a smaller scale, then your argument is no different than telling me the Holocaust happened simply because people said it did.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG 1 point 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 17:47:23 ago (+1/-0)

This is what niggers think is peer review.

State your lack of knowledge.

Demand others to educate you.

Read a book, nigger.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 20:58:00 ago (+0/-0)

I'm not asking for an education. I'm watching kikes defend institutional science. Kinda like when someone says the holocaust is real because scientific evidence supports it. This post is meant to be educational to the few non-kikes on voat that don't realize voat is a designed echo chamber for anti-semitism. People don't come here to learn about the jew. All the kikes that post extreme anti-semitism are burring genuine information that would help expose the jew. They make this place unusable as a reference to the outside world. All this place is good for is to vent about the jew. Nobody is going to learn anything new here.

[ - ] AmalekTheZOG 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 21:03:49 ago (+0/-0)

So you ran the calculations huh?
Nigger you done drank your grape drank an smoked some more crack is all.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 30, 2022 21:15:59 ago (+0/-0)

You're the one sucking NASA dick. I just questioning the validity of an equation that doesn't add up.

[ - ] Sector7 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 05:16:20 ago (+0/-0)

can you give an example of this phenomenon on a smaller scale?

https://petapixel.com/2022/08/01/bizarre-floating-tanker-ship-is-rare-superior-mirage/

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 05:30:18 ago (+0/-0)

Lol. That was a very good try but unfortunately for you, I'm going to debunk that also.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-hovering-ship-fata-morgana-or-mirage-false-horizon.9112/

[ - ] Sector7 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 06:37:15 ago (+0/-0)

Ah, tricksy. Maybe the earth is really an infinite flat plane, or there's something else going on. If you've ever watched a magician video, they pull tricks you're not even aware of. Would be different if seeing for myself.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 15:24:17 ago (+0/-0)

Maybe the earth is really an infinite flat plane, or there's something else going on.

This is the correct answer. Based on knowledge that can be verified, the earth curvature does not exist. This does not mean the person that recognizes this understands everything about existence but it does mean that any explanation for a phenomenon that would involve curvature is false.

So is the earth an infinite flat plane? I don't know. The Antarctic treaty prevents anyone from seeing what's at the edge of known existence. Therefore, all we have are new theories based on the fact that curvature does not exist. It's not fair to say a single theory is something all flat earthers believe.

[ - ] Sector7 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 19:07:10 ago (+0/-0)

There are still too many 'indications' the earth is not flat (seasons, sun/moon appearance, etc.), but I'm still going to go look across 20 miles of ocean with binoculars on some upcoming clear day. It's around 168 feet of curve I'm supposed to not see, iirc.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 1 point 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 19:34:31 ago (+1/-0)

There are still too many 'indications' the earth is not flat

There is no indication of a globe without curvature. Every indication you mentioned can be theorized on a flat earth. Given that there is no curvature, these theories are more credible as opposed to theories base on curvature.

You mentioned things like "moon appearance." It should be impossible to see an illuminated moon in the daytime on a globe. This is possible on a flat earth.

As for the sun appearance, the sun should cast parallel lines down from the clouds if the earth was a globe and the sun was as far as they say. On a flat earth, the sun is local and would cast rays that fan out from the clouds like they are observed in reality.

Seasons can be explained on a flat earth by recognizing the sun's yearly behavior. It moves inward then outward then repeats creating the solstice's.

but I'm still going to go look across 20 miles of ocean with binoculars on some upcoming clear day.

Sure. I don't know what you plan on achieving. It only takes one example of an object being visible beyond the supposed curvature to prove there is no curvature. The human eye's visibility has many limitations. Especially over bodies of water given the amount of moisture in the air. On rare occasions, it's possible to see objects further than normal. Those rare occasions prove there's no curvature.

It's around 168 feet of curve I'm supposed to not see

Like I said, there are many limitations to what the human eye can see that has nothing to do with curvature. If you believe the dogma of curvature, it's easy to confuse these limitations as curvature.

[ - ] Sector7 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 21:21:00 ago (+0/-0)

You mentioned things like "moon appearance." It should be impossible to see an illuminated moon in the daytime on a globe. This is possible on a flat earth.

Have you ever stood outside in the sun and looked to your right or left, and observed the sun shining on objects in either direction? The moon is just further away. Depending on the angles, a greater or lesser portion of the visible surface will be illuminated.

I've exchanged comments with some of the most dedicated flatters over the years, and only one so far has even acknowledged a video by the reddit douche known as professor dave explains. Specifically, his flat earth debunkings. It's pretty clear why they see his videos as their kryptonite, but still disappointing in the face of what should be an easy win. If the earth were actually flat.

In his 'debunkings' playlist section, if you're interested. He goes into detail on the seasons, sun and moon appearance, and a bunch more.

But still, seeing the curve, or lack of curve, for ones self is superior to any theoretical 'proofs' one way or another. What I'll achieve once I finally get around to it is acquiring my own legitimate data and seeing for myself. Pictures and images on the internet aren't real, and are often faked. Much of 'official' reality is faked by TPTB, so skepticism is the smart way to go.

The problem here is if flat earth theorists can't refute a debunking by a 'professor dave' type, the theory basically dies of cringe.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 22:14:38 ago (+0/-0)

Have you ever stood outside in the sun and looked to your right or left, and observed the sun shining on objects in either direction?

I've observed objects that would be impossible to see if curvature exists. I will not bend to the dogma that curvature exists.

As for how the sun works, there are other theories that don't involve curvature. For instance, I happened to believe it is very possible that the sun ionizes noble gases in the either (not atmosphere because the earth isn't a sphere) and we call that illumination "daylight." There is a difference between sunlight and daylight. It's why sunset's can appear pink or purple and rare phenomenons like the sky appearing green can happen. It's why the sky mostly has a blue tint.

professor dave explains

He is a jackass that doesn't even address the actual argument. He sticks to straw man arguments every time. Regardless, there is no curvature. Period. It is proven. Dogma won't accept it.

In his 'debunkings' playlist section, if you're interested.

No I'm not interested. I've seen his videos through flat earth channels that tear his videos apart. He does not undebunk curvature. We've established there is no curvature. His theories are as credible as wooden door gas chambers.

his flat earth debunkings

The only thing he can debunk are dumb theories from "flat earth society" which is controlled opposition. It's their job to push ridiculous theories that can easily be debunked.

is superior to any theoretical 'proofs

No. Not at all. That's your problem. Look how many people thought they saw a "superior mirage" when it was easily identified as a false horizon when changing the color temperature in the photo. It would be unreliable to rely on an uncritical observation.

The problem here is if flat earth theorists can't refute a debunking by a 'professor dave'

Look up the YouTube channel "dirty." They debunk Dave all the time. They have more credibility than Dave because they don't pretend like curvature exists. Dave subscribes to the dogma and claims images like the Chicago skyline are mirages yet ignores anyone that asks for proof.


the theory basically dies of cringe.

You calling something cringe means nothing. You believe there is curvature when is is easily debunkable.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 2.3 yearsDec 31, 2022 22:20:43 ago (+0/-0)

DIRTH is the channel that debunks Dave all the time. Hell, I debunked Dave simply by showing a picture of the Chicago skyline.