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There are only two reasons Russia would announce that the US & NATO are now directly involved in NATO

submitted by prototype to random 1.4 yearsDec 2, 2022 22:57:02 ago (+1/-4)     (random)

1. Russia is actually losing the fight, as the u.s. claims
2. They are looking to draw the u.s. further into conflict.

3. Russia is preparing to commit to a major new push, or large scale attack


The reasoning for number one is why would they say this unless they were suing for peace? The claim itself weakens their position dramatically.

In the second case, Russia's worst frustrations in the war have all stemmed each time from u.s. and NATO intervention. They want less of this. The u.s. wants less direct involvement (because the u.s. can't win that fight and only makes a profit when the fighting is by proxy). Everything up till now has been saber rattling against BRICs, and attempting to keep germany from pivoting.

For the third option, winter is coming, and with the ground frozen russia can retreat (screwing washington's momentum) or move in for a fresh campaign. This syncs with washington's own fears as displayed by rumormongering. It also makes sense in light of the (gradual) build up to larger attacks against ukraine's powergrid. Thats something you would do to acclimatize the world to large scale attacks, ahead of a big push--something that would be necessary for a nation like Russia when it is already in a somewhat ambiguous diplomatic position relative to both its allies and enemies.
If thats true it makes sense russia is testing the S-500, or other large antimissile systems now. They're expecting the u.s. to resort to full-scale attack.

This suggests the u.s. is economically more vulnerable, esp dollar status, and thus more threatened, by BRICs recent trading in rubles and oil--than the u.s. is letting on.

Combine with Biden's obvious ties to the CCP, recent new lockdowns they've implemented, the rumoval of Hu Jintao, and recent naval and air incursions in the pacific we can draw some reasonable conclusions:

1. The pentagon is not on board with the CCP and Israel's control of the u.s. and u.s. intelligence community.
2. BRICs has successfully challenged the status of the dollar to the point that it is now officially an open question of "how long" rather than "whats the chance" that the dollar loses reserve status.
3. Washington knows this and now has to move internationally to resolve the situation, do or die.
4. Hence Russia preparing for bombardment of moscow.
5. Washington likewise has to prepare for more lockdowns to control the situation domestically if or when trade partners start reducing trade volume signficantly.

Service economies only run if you have goods to supply the service companies.

Oil reduction at this moment would therefore appear to be a forward signal of existing (internal) expectations of the u.s. government.

The u.s. government is expecting to fight a multifront war, including on its own soil. it is expecting signciant (24-25%) unemployment, and large scale unrest.

It will resort to the exact playbook as before. Large scale manufactured riots, that it uses to redirect, and control domestic unrest before it pops off--and a large scale 'outbreak'.


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[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 7 points 1.4 yearsDec 2, 2022 23:21:05 ago (+7/-0)

This is the dumbest, falsest, most retarded reddit-tier take I've seen in ages

[ - ] Breeder 2 points 1.4 yearsDec 3, 2022 00:13:53 ago (+2/-0)

I made it past the title and had to get a fresh take. Thanks.

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 1.4 yearsDec 2, 2022 23:21:21 ago (+2/-0)

Or, maybe, because the US and NATO are directly involved in the war.

Duh.

You'd have to be blind and stupid to think Russia is losing this incursion.

They have met 95% of their stated goals, the regions that Russia have recognized a independent have passed referendums declaring a desire to be a part of Russia. Russia is no longer on the offensive and are doing little more than defending their territory.

None of that is losing.

The US, however, is spending 3 times the money per month in Ukraine than we did in Afghanistan or Iraq. Ukraine has made no significant gains in territory. They are back to making up bullshit stories like the Ghost of Kiev but for snipers, this time. Protests are erupting all over Europe against this war and against sanctions that are hurting their people while making US oil companies rich as fuck selling LNG. Ukraine has resorted to terrorist style attacks and the US has to blow up Germany's pipeline to keep them in the fight.

Ukraine will never be a part of NATO or the EU, and their politicians are willing to let every Ukrainian die fighting a losing war.

Russia has no need to escalate this war. They are not the ones suffering the economic sanctions.

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 0 points 1.4 yearsDec 2, 2022 23:51:34 ago (+1/-1)

I hope Russia goes full nuclear and the Earth is ended.