A man that has sex with a 14 year old girl IS NOT a pedophile. In order for them to be considered a pedophile the girl would have to have not gone through puberty, so the age of 11-12 or younger. Teenagers are not what actual pedophiles are interested in. You would be more accurate using the term "sexual predator" or something like that.
Then I guess you wouldn't mind people here using your own suggested term for your own predilection, "sexual predator".
Doesn't matter. Your posting behavior speaks louder than anything you could say. Stop posting of young teenage girls and women with small tits who look like they're 15, and perhaps people will take you a little more seriously. Meanwhile, you've done more damage to your reputation that I ever could.
What I wrote was a conditional statement, not an imperative. The "if" at the beginning was implied. It could be rephrased as "[If you] stop posting of young teenage girls and women with small tits who look like they're 15, [then] perhaps people will take you a little more seriously."
Jeez. For a guy who's arguing for clarity in language, one would think you'd be more sensitive to the nuances in how it's used, particularly colloquial usage. Somehow, less than academic grammar, phrasing, and definitions somehow manage to convey the sense and meaning among ordinary people in ordinary speech that they intend.
You're the one focusing on language of pedophilia and trying to control how it should be discussed and described. Post your pictures. I don't care, and I doubt anyone's threatened. It's just distasteful.
[ - ] HughBriss 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 17:14:06 ago (+5/-4)
Only pedophiles quibble about the "correct definition" of pedophilia. Everyone else doesn't give a crap because for us, pedophilia is like obscenity: We know it when we see it. What you call it isn't relevant if anyone can see that it's degenerate.
I never had a quarrel with you. But since you insulted me, I'd like to parse what you said.
sex with a 16 year old is not obscene as sex with an infant
Do you mean sex with a 16 year old is not obscene BUT sex with an infant is obscene?
Do you mean sex with a 16 year old is not AS obscene as sex with an infant?
Those are two very different concepts. Since you're so interested in "definitions" of words, you should probably be just as interested in the same kind of specificity in your language and your phrasing.
I didn't insult you or call you a pedophile, but you called me a retard for no reason. I honestly don't know what you're so defensive about.
[ - ] Kozel 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 20:35:40 ago (+2/-1)
You claim this
I didn't insult you or call you a pedophile
But you wrote this
Only pedophiles quibble about the "correct definition" of pedophilia.
You also wrote
you're so interested in "definitions" of words
You've called multiple people pedophiles by that statement. You've also made certain to note that I am interested in definitions of words, which you've claimed is the behavior of a pedophile, to know definitions of words.
you called me a retard for no reason
I called you a retard because you are calling people pedophiles with the only evidence being retarded conjecture.
I honestly don't know what you're so defensive about.
What words were defensive in my previous post? Why are you claiming I am being defensive? I called you a retard, which I thought was aggressive.
And why are you so interested about the subject of sex with 16 year old girl all of a sudden? Are you some sort of pedophile?
My discussion was with B4P, not with you, and you should interpret what I said in the context of that discussion.
And why are you so interested about the subject of sex with 16 year old girl all of a sudden? Are you some sort of pedophile?
I have no interest in it. B4P brought it up with his discussion about the fine points of the definitions of pedophilia and ephebophilia. I have no axe to grind with you.
[ - ] Kozel 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 20:52:15 ago (+2/-1)
In your discussion with blueman you made a statement that categorized people outside of that discussion whom would challenge an incorrect definition as being pedophiles. That is absolutely retarded and I will not stand for it for these two reasons:
1. It is untrue. 2. It makes the word meaningless.
Perhaps you can enlighten me on the benefits of your approach, of calling pedophiles those who have exhibited no relevant behavior of such a title. I see none.
[ - ] HughBriss 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 18:17:23 ago (+3/-2)
I understand what you're saying, that they are two different sexual attractions, pedophilia and ephebophilia, but it doesn't matter whether the terms are misused, what they describe is wrong and sick and the people who have these perversions are wrong and sick. I'm not going to get hung up on the correct word to describe it when it only serves to take attention away from the perversion and focuses it on the terminology.
I consider the vast majority of young people under 18 to be too young to understand the implications of sexual congress. They are too young, too inexperienced, and too immature. This is especially so for children just entering puberty.
I know most homosexuals have an obsession for youth, and they seek very young boys in their teens. Technically this could be called ephebophilia, but I really don't give a fuck. They're kiddy diddling pedophiles who need to be killed slowly and painfully.
Men who lust after teen girls, especially those under 16, also deserve to be in this category. OP, if that applies to you, you're a sick fuck.
What you're doing is playing with semantics, trying to confuse the thing with the word. Defining the word, refining it with additional descriptive words to be more specific, etc., doesn't change the actual thing. The word is not the object. The map is not the place. The fact remains that only sick fucks (possibly like you) quibble about language that describes it instead of condemning the thing itself. I say again: Only pedophiles do that.
[ - ] HughBriss 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 18:55:34 ago (+2/-1)
I understand what you're saying, that they are two different sexual attractions, pedophilia and ephebophilia, but it doesn't matter whether the terms are misused, what they describe is wrong and sick and the people who have these perversions are wrong and sick. I'm not going to get hung up on the correct word to describe it when it only serves to take attention away from the perversion and focuses it on the terminology.
I want you to notice that I said that THEY are two different sexual attractions, pedophilia and ephebophilia. You argued a different point.
I also want you to notice that at no point did you ever condemn having sexual attraction for minors, whether they are pre-pubescent or post-pubescent under 18. That is my most critical point which you ignored.
Why do you think that is? I was born and raised in a time when premarital sex and cohabitation without marriage were scandalous. Having a child out of wedlock was never spoken about, but dealt with in the family. What could have led to such an erosion of the family structure since the 50s?
Enlisting in the army, getting married, consuming alcohol when eating out and more are all perfectly legal here and in the vast majority of the western world at 16. It's unusual to me to see yanks so strung up on dating, leading to marriage at that age.
I know what I'm disgusted by and call it out: faggotry, pedos, cucks, Jews and weak willed bitches.
That said, I see nothing wrong with relations with 16+ women. This is based on my own area, upbringing and maturity. I am aware women remain more mentally immature in the US.
Nice to see the usual totally not suspicious accounts here with the usual talking points and the usual totally not suspicious bot-like up and down voting patterns.
But as I have said - the Elvis jagoff? Asshole. He came at me with an attitude. Banned me with no warning beforehand. Idiot doesn't even have basic moderator skills because he is a social retard.
The word has changed. Pipul will not change it back. I get ya, but the days of words meaning what they mean are over. 14 is weirdly young to defend. Ephebo isn't easy to say.
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 3 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 18:19:23 ago (+3/-0)
Then I guess you wouldn't mind people here using your own suggested term for your own predilection, "sexual predator".
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[ - ] deleted -1 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 18:50:39 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 6 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 18:57:42 ago (+6/-0)
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[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 2 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 19:21:14 ago (+3/-1)
Jeez. For a guy who's arguing for clarity in language, one would think you'd be more sensitive to the nuances in how it's used, particularly colloquial usage. Somehow, less than academic grammar, phrasing, and definitions somehow manage to convey the sense and meaning among ordinary people in ordinary speech that they intend.
You're the one focusing on language of pedophilia and trying to control how it should be discussed and described. Post your pictures. I don't care, and I doubt anyone's threatened. It's just distasteful.
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted -2 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 19:29:29 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 3 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 19:33:33 ago (+3/-0)
You certainly do.
[ + ] DivineLight2
[ - ] DivineLight2 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 28, 2022 00:58:40 ago (+1/-0)
Elvis is also clearly another faggot. Once again, just block and ignore.
Easy.
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 19:44:51 ago (+2/-1)
if words have no meaning?
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 17:14:06 ago (+5/-4)
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 2 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 19:49:16 ago (+3/-1)
if you cannot differentiate the two, you are a retard
given that you're a retard I can overlook you calling me a pedophile on the basis that I know a definition to a word
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 20:14:30 ago (+1/-1)
Do you mean sex with a 16 year old is not obscene BUT sex with an infant is obscene?
Do you mean sex with a 16 year old is not AS obscene as sex with an infant?
Those are two very different concepts. Since you're so interested in "definitions" of words, you should probably be just as interested in the same kind of specificity in your language and your phrasing.
I didn't insult you or call you a pedophile, but you called me a retard for no reason. I honestly don't know what you're so defensive about.
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 20:35:40 ago (+2/-1)
But you wrote this
You also wrote
You've called multiple people pedophiles by that statement. You've also made certain to note that I am interested in definitions of words, which you've claimed is the behavior of a pedophile, to know definitions of words.
I called you a retard because you are calling people pedophiles with the only evidence being retarded conjecture.
What words were defensive in my previous post? Why are you claiming I am being defensive? I called you a retard, which I thought was aggressive.
And why are you so interested about the subject of sex with 16 year old girl all of a sudden? Are you some sort of pedophile?
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 20:40:00 ago (+1/-1)
I have no interest in it. B4P brought it up with his discussion about the fine points of the definitions of pedophilia and ephebophilia. I have no axe to grind with you.
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 20:52:15 ago (+2/-1)
1. It is untrue.
2. It makes the word meaningless.
Perhaps you can enlighten me on the benefits of your approach, of calling pedophiles those who have exhibited no relevant behavior of such a title. I see none.
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 21:06:12 ago (+1/-1)
We're done. Especially since you're so aggressive and hostile. We have nothing more to say.
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 21:47:24 ago (+1/-1)
You said I was defensive. Now you say I am aggressive. Reassess your position.
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[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 17:16:27 ago (+4/-3)
[ + ] thoughtcryme
[ - ] thoughtcryme 4 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 17:21:40 ago (+4/-0)
Truth has an inconvenient way of being inconvenient.
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[ - ] deleted -2 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 17:23:36 ago (+1/-3)
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 18:17:23 ago (+3/-2)
I consider the vast majority of young people under 18 to be too young to understand the implications of sexual congress. They are too young, too inexperienced, and too immature. This is especially so for children just entering puberty.
I know most homosexuals have an obsession for youth, and they seek very young boys in their teens. Technically this could be called ephebophilia, but I really don't give a fuck. They're kiddy diddling pedophiles who need to be killed slowly and painfully.
Men who lust after teen girls, especially those under 16, also deserve to be in this category. OP, if that applies to you, you're a sick fuck.
What you're doing is playing with semantics, trying to confuse the thing with the word. Defining the word, refining it with additional descriptive words to be more specific, etc., doesn't change the actual thing. The word is not the object. The map is not the place. The fact remains that only sick fucks (possibly like you) quibble about language that describes it instead of condemning the thing itself. I say again: Only pedophiles do that.
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[ - ] deleted 2 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 18:46:39 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 18:55:34 ago (+2/-1)
I want you to notice that I said that THEY are two different sexual attractions, pedophilia and ephebophilia. You argued a different point.
I also want you to notice that at no point did you ever condemn having sexual attraction for minors, whether they are pre-pubescent or post-pubescent under 18. That is my most critical point which you ignored.
Everything else you said was pilpul.
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[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 3 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 19:09:58 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] FellowWhite
[ - ] FellowWhite 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 22:46:22 ago (+0/-0)
So why are they allowed and even encouraged to engage in premarital sex before they're of legal age? It leads no virgin wives for the rest of us.
[ + ] HughBriss
[ - ] HughBriss 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 23:11:19 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] DivineLight2
[ - ] DivineLight2 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 28, 2022 01:04:41 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] FellowWhite 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 28, 2022 01:36:28 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] thoughtcryme
[ - ] thoughtcryme 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 17:20:46 ago (+4/-3)
Thank you for saving me some keystrokes. This^
The efficacy of language is not the primary concern. Only the accused will claim it is.
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[ + ] thoughtcryme
[ - ] thoughtcryme 3 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 17:25:36 ago (+3/-0)
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[ - ] FellowWhite 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 22:44:55 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 22:49:25 ago (+0/-1)
Near as I can tell none of the 'pedos' here have ever indicated they've had sex with a female under 18. I know I haven't. Even when I was under 18.
[ + ] FellowWhite
[ - ] FellowWhite 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 22:51:03 ago (+0/-0)
Most guys aren't having sex at all so what does that matter?
[ + ] DivineLight2
[ - ] DivineLight2 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 28, 2022 01:08:45 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] DivineLight2
[ - ] DivineLight2 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 28, 2022 01:01:46 ago (+0/-0)
I know what I'm disgusted by and call it out: faggotry, pedos, cucks, Jews and weak willed bitches.
That said, I see nothing wrong with relations with 16+ women. This is based on my own area, upbringing and maturity. I am aware women remain more mentally immature in the US.
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 28, 2022 05:15:56 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 19:14:36 ago (+1/-2)
But as I have said - the Elvis jagoff? Asshole. He came at me with an attitude. Banned me with no warning beforehand. Idiot doesn't even have basic moderator skills because he is a social retard.
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 19:51:45 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 19:56:55 ago (+1/-1)
https://youtu.be/C-u5WLJ9Yk4
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 20:37:49 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FellowWhite
[ - ] FellowWhite 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 22:50:13 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 23:07:39 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] meat
[ - ] meat -1 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 17:55:01 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 20:54:41 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] FellowWhite
[ - ] FellowWhite 0 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 22:49:11 ago (+0/-0)
It's also a bit late to condemn someone for attraction to a girl who is already pursuing men.
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[ - ] deleted -1 points 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 18:53:03 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] meat
[ - ] meat 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 19:11:03 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] meat
[ - ] meat 1 point 2.6 yearsNov 27, 2022 19:13:15 ago (+1/-0)
Lol, fuckhole. Those are all shitjolés