If filming porn is so damaging to reputation in 2022 why are so many doing it?
I think it is obvious the stigma is in decline and will only decline more by the time these chicks are 30. Everyone likes to watch them. And don't bother denying you do.
You think 18 year olds suddenly become wise and can make decisions? That's very questionable.
It is also possible to make life altering decisions before 18. Dropping out of school for example. Or even actually having sex with men, as opposed to masturbating on camera, that are well over 18 (the age of consent is under 18 in many places, which assists the case that if actual sexual contact is permissible at 15 in France why not pleasuring oneself publicly?). The dropping out can be done in some places without it being necessary to get parental approval. I dare say doing that is going to be more of a barrier to getting ahead in 10 years than being hot and playing with yourself on camera.
And being hot should be the primary test. If girls are hot they should do it. But they're not really developed enough to be hot before 15 in most cases.
Before you declare victory in a debate it'd also be good to actually have me as a participant with you in a conversation first. You do have me now. And I think my response is adequate.
No, your response is not adequate and I was able to call it because my logic is without fault.
You have failed to refute the fact that:
"Filming porn is harmful and casts a life long shadow"
And that: "Someone under the age of 18 is not capable to make a decision of that permanence without undue influence."
You have attempted to use the sliding scale what about ism, but I said without undue influence to predictively shut this avenue of false dichotomies down.
You're argument uses incorrect hearsay (there are 4billion women alive with a smartphone - a tiny fraction make porn)
"I think" the stigma will disappear in 15 years time
There is no dataset to support this, because it doesn't exist and is an unknown.
I don't lose debates. Not on this website anyway. You guys suck at debate. To the extent you even try. Mostly it's just calling a guy a faggot or Jew. It looks so bad it comes across strongly as an intelligence operation. Which in part it is.
15 is the age of consent in France among other places. I think to lower it any further is going too far. Naturally this is going to be subjective. Age of consent is like 16 in Britain. 17 I believe in Australia. Used to be like 14 in Canada until rather recently. And that lets girls have sex with 60 year old men. I'm suggesting girls have sex with themselves.
From what I've seen of the data men pretty much prefer 18-22 year old women regardless of their age. If they end up with something else it is not the optimum choice. But they will be attracted to some 16 year olds. And to raise a big stink about it is silly if not outrageous. The way the pedo police on these sites react (police is often literal I assure you) is what is really outrageous to common decency.
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -1 points 1.5 yearsNov 22, 2022 07:02:19 ago (+0/-1)
Filming porn is harmful and casts a life long shadow.
Someone under the age of 18 is not capable to make a decision of that permanence without undue influence.
It's why you need to be 18 to get a tattoo or sign a legally binding contract.
There you go - now you can say you've lost a debate on Voat
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 22, 2022 07:18:25 ago (+1/-0)*
I think it is obvious the stigma is in decline and will only decline more by the time these chicks are 30. Everyone likes to watch them. And don't bother denying you do.
You think 18 year olds suddenly become wise and can make decisions? That's very questionable.
It is also possible to make life altering decisions before 18. Dropping out of school for example. Or even actually having sex with men, as opposed to masturbating on camera, that are well over 18 (the age of consent is under 18 in many places, which assists the case that if actual sexual contact is permissible at 15 in France why not pleasuring oneself publicly?). The dropping out can be done in some places without it being necessary to get parental approval. I dare say doing that is going to be more of a barrier to getting ahead in 10 years than being hot and playing with yourself on camera.
And being hot should be the primary test. If girls are hot they should do it. But they're not really developed enough to be hot before 15 in most cases.
Before you declare victory in a debate it'd also be good to actually have me as a participant with you in a conversation first. You do have me now. And I think my response is adequate.
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -1 points 1.5 yearsNov 22, 2022 13:52:10 ago (+0/-1)
You have failed to refute the fact that:
"Filming porn is harmful and casts a life long shadow"
And that:
"Someone under the age of 18 is not capable to make a decision of that permanence without undue influence."
You have attempted to use the sliding scale what about ism, but I said without undue influence to predictively shut this avenue of false dichotomies down.
You're argument uses incorrect hearsay (there are 4billion women alive with a smartphone - a tiny fraction make porn)
"I think" the stigma will disappear in 15 years time
There is no dataset to support this, because it doesn't exist and is an unknown.
"Hotness" is subjective.
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 8 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 09:42:46 ago (+9/-1)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -1 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 09:47:07 ago (+2/-3)*
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 5 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 10:02:39 ago (+6/-1)
If you think back a while I was nice to you at first, and just uneasy about your red flags. I gradually began to hate you.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -1 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 10:06:49 ago (+2/-3)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 2 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 10:16:46 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 11:11:48 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 15:17:16 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 6 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 08:23:49 ago (+7/-1)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -2 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 08:25:09 ago (+2/-4)
[ + ] thoughtcryme
[ - ] thoughtcryme 5 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 09:06:00 ago (+6/-1)
now just look over yonder and think about the bunnies...
https://i.imgflip.com/714gie.jpg
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -5 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 09:11:16 ago (+1/-6)
[ + ] thoughtcryme
[ - ] thoughtcryme 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 09:57:05 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 3 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 09:14:01 ago (+4/-1)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -2 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 09:18:57 ago (+2/-4)
Is a girl ready for marriage though at 15? 16? Or even 18? I dunno.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 4 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 09:33:53 ago (+4/-0)
16 is ok. For marriage not your porn.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 09:40:24 ago (+2/-2)*
But if you look at the 3 videos I posted in the OP you have 16 year old Britney Spears, 15 year old Alizée Jacotey, and Alicia Silverstone, who was within 2 weeks of her 16th birthday when filming that scene - or maybe just passed her 16th birthday.
Personally I'm going to be inclined to call any guy that says he doesn't find them sexually attractive to be liars. So we'll make it 15.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 3 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 10:14:30 ago (+4/-1)
Idk the other one.
Have you met a real 15 yr old ? I have an 18 yr old who looks like she's 15. If that.
The ones youre talking about were jew creations.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 10:21:28 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 2 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 10:28:47 ago (+2/-0)
You're best shot was in your 20s to get an 18 year old.
What did you do with the time?
You know what's weird? What is with guys wanting older women now?
Good looking guys in their 20s tying themselves to 30 and up women. It doesn't make sense to me.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -2 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 10:51:08 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 11:13:27 ago (+1/-0)
They actually get upset if the older woman dumps them. It's crazy.
And there you go again calling people police.
They're wondering why such a low age to have sex with when an 18 year old is just as stupid as a 15 year old.
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[ - ] deleted 2 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 11:10:49 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] s23erdctfvyg
[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 15:38:55 ago (+2/-1)
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[ - ] deleted -1 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 12:47:51 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 23, 2022 08:30:14 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] deleted -1 points 1.5 yearsNov 17, 2022 12:42:49 ago (+1/-2)