I guess what I'm saying is they don't know if there's anything left you're hiding ultimately. So if you give them a good enough decoy they won't bash you any further.
Even if the presence of the Shufflecake software itself cannot be hidden — and hence the presence of secret volumes is suspected — the number of volumes is also hidden. This allows a user to create a hierarchy of plausible deniability, where "most hidden" secret volumes are buried under "less hidden" decoy volumes, whose passwords can be surrendered under pressure. In other words, a user can plausibly "lie" to a coercive adversary about the existence of hidden data, by providing a password that unlocks "decoy" data.
Even if they know you use it, it all boils down to whether your decoy convinces them you gave them the "real" password.
You are correct. In this scenario, there is only one way to be certain you got every password and every hidden volume. By killing him. If he dies, he has nothing left to bargain with, ie: you got it all.
If the victim is still alive, there remains a chance that another volume exists. If he really doesn't have anymore to tell you, he'll die without telling you. If he has more, he will tell you, to prevent his death.
In the event that he was willing to die to protect the final volume, then he was always going to die without telling you. It would also be possible to simply not kill them, but torture forever, just in case.
it all boils down to whether your decoy convinces them you gave them the "real" password.
This part only works if the captor doesn't know this. They can understand it ya know. They aren't blind to counter tactics just because they are the "bad guys".
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they just hit you some more
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Even if they know you use it, it all boils down to whether your decoy convinces them you gave them the "real" password.
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In this scenario, there is only one way to be certain you got every password and every hidden volume.
By killing him. If he dies, he has nothing left to bargain with, ie: you got it all.
If the victim is still alive, there remains a chance that another volume exists.
If he really doesn't have anymore to tell you, he'll die without telling you.
If he has more, he will tell you, to prevent his death.
In the event that he was willing to die to protect the final volume, then he was always going to die without telling you. It would also be possible to simply not kill them, but torture forever, just in case.
This part only works if the captor doesn't know this. They can understand it ya know. They aren't blind to counter tactics just because they are the "bad guys".
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