If you have problems with it then why not just make a better Christianity by fixing the problems in it? Just edit the Bible to make it more explicitly aligned with your ideals of what it would be in it's ideal form?
Either it's based and you are bringing it back to a state closer to what it was meant to be, or it's cringe and you are creating a religion that works for your political purposes and has yet to be subverted.
If God favors your political vision, then surely he would endorse such efforts, if he does not, then you can reconcile your actions with the fact that you are doing the best for your people, and perhaps are earning the favor of an even greater God.
Perhaps you are just unfamiliar with the Christianity and the Bible and need to learn more about it, it could be that it's current form is a lot closer to your ideals than you may think.
After all, if Christianity was evil, then why do evil people hate it so much?
Because religion is not a toy. It's not insignificant. It's the oldest and most primal expression of culture and of a unified people that exists, and it's tied to us on such a deep level that it can shape and mold us.
Christianity was a weapon used on us as revenge for Hadrian nearly wiping out the jews. It specifically runs counter to the values and morals that bound Rome together and made them strong. It did not come from White people and has successfully severed the tie between blood and religion to the point that Christians don't even remember it exists or is important. They think it's a choice, as if you can choose the nature of your spirit.
It inserts jewish ideas into it's followers brain, and teaches children from a young age that stories about jews are the most important stories in the world. You can become 100% redpilled later in life but those formative associations are there forever, and you'll forever have to fight them in your subconscious.
Those are more practical, surface level reasons and they're big ones. Depending on your level of belief I can get woo-woo on this too but I doubt those arguments would reach anyone.
One notable difference between Roman beliefs and Christianity is the Roman value of "virtus", which relates to the idea of valor, manliness, excellence, courage, character, and worth. Looking at the seven common Christian values, I believe our time is severely lacking in virtus.
That was late stage "jew infestation" Rome. Cohencidentally they were having diversity issues around the same time and all of this was happening as Christianity was gaining influence. The empire fell shortly after.
The bible is all about family. Blood. It's one of the main points. It's why so many books list genealogies at the beginning.
The word 'jew' should be removed though as it is a made up word (by kike rabbis in the 1600s or so), and Europeans should be taught the truth that we are the Hebrews and the kikes are the Edomites, Canaanites, Amulek, and so on. (((They are our cousins however, cursed cousins who racemixed, or as the bible calls it, "took strange wives."
Kikes are not your people, but the Hebrews of the old testament are. Kikes didn't write the bible ... (((they))) wrote the talmud. There is a huge difference between the two making it quite obvious who wrote what
You don't own truth, no matter what your jewish book tells you. Pagan religions don't have the problem of "faith" because we don't have to believe obvious falsehoods. Your "ultimate truth" is just you trying to cope with that cognitive dissonance.
The Bible is a Heroic-Epic of a foreign, Non-European, people. It subverts the Heroic-Epic of your Ethnically-European ancestors and turns Europeans into slaves intended to serve the descendants of the Non-European people in the Bible... who are... guess who?
It's the fucking JEWS!
After all, if Christianity was evil, then why do evil people hate it so much?
The master holds contempt for his slave. The Jew doesn't need to like Christianity. Christianity was created to control YOU not them.
Because I reject all religion. I don't reject God. I like God, but I've never met a religion I even liked.
I can't fix Christianity because I don't believe it works. It never did. Not as I define 'working'. That isn't to say it hasn't done good things, but broken clocks twice a day and such...
There are many ways I could answer this. I'm going to go w a simple yes. I meet him every day. There isn't a single day that goes by that I don't talk to my God. Face to face, man to man.
If you're an atheist or a strong theist, you may be dubious of my answer. But that's why I don't fit into either of those molds, and reject them both.
And your DVs aren't from me in this case, just to be clear.
Downvotes don't matter but I appreciate your honesty. You see questioning religion (especially christianity) here is no different than questioning the holohoax in real life. Most won't discuss and rather name call or in this case downvote.
Sure, he talks to me. Sometimes he sounds like my dad who isn't w me anymore. Sometimes he sounds like my mom who still is. Sometimes he sounds like me.
Sometimes he sounds like the painting I just did. And sometimes he sounds like that tree w the red and green and yellow autumn leaves.
I'm not an animist. Trees don't have spirits, but trees are The Spirit. So are rocks and squirrels though.And the voices of my ancestors and friends and even myself are often his actual words.
This exchange between you and I. The experience of being alive is a back and forth conversation between myself and what I call God, the Universe.
God speaks to me when I don't want to work out, but know I should and then do. Or don't. God speaks to me when I sit at the bar and have a conversation w someone.
My God is everywhere, always, and I'm speaking to him right now.
I don't need a church because I wake up in one every day(as long as I keep waking up).
Well I certainly didn't see that coming. So your view of God is much different from most. I can relate somewhat as one day someone asked me "do you believe in heaven or hell"? I said "I do, just not in the form that we've all been taught. I believe heaven is your best moments in life (spending time with the love of your life, the birth of your children, Christmas morning, etc.) And that hell is your worst moments like getting into a car accident or losing loved ones)".
Annnnyways if it works for you and doesn't bring any negativity than I'm happy for you.
There's some interesting things in interesting places in the bible, (Matthew 6) for example gives instructions on some important fundamentals (that seemingly no one follows as instructed) On the last page of the bible (Revelation 22) There's a warning about editing the bible so a knowledgeable believer would have to have some big balls or a high level of confidence to do so.
Another thing of notability at the end of the bible is it says to let the wicked continue being wicked and the filthy continue to be filthy. It seems to imply that Christians are not intended to interfere beyond warning those involved in wickedness and filth.
Yeah but God, the soul, and the afterlife don't actually exist, so there's nothing to fear from improving the Holy Bible.
We should cut out anything that impairs the book from being an optimal tool for the improvement of society.
We should leave in the stuff about the Bible never being permitted to be changed, it will help our case when we deny that we had made any changes to it. The people must believe that the perfected Bible was never altered from its original state.
Fruit of the poison tree. Anything made by jews in any way is meant to subvert and pervert.
Christianity is ritualistic cannibal humiliation. Drink his blood, eat his flesh and beg for his forgiveness because he died for you.... Just a kike guilt trip meant to pacify warlike heathen cultures.
The point of religion is not to know the true God, the point of religion is to create a harmonious society full of moral and fulfilled people that contribute to it.
Perfect to me is "the best that is possible" not "impossibly good". So yes, I think we can build a perfect society on earth, and we could call that heaven, or the earthly heaven before the heaven in the hereafter, if you'd like.
please provide evidence this is the case.... If God wanted us to be equal to Him, then why didn't he give us miraculous powers? Why didn't he make us equal to Him? As it is, we are not equal to God, and therefore cannot take it upon ourselves to act as God.
my point is, if you don't have any valid evidence that God intends for you to write new scripture, then you are just making stuff up - which relates to my first comment of making yourself god (or equal to god).
You missed my point. I don’t have valid evidence that god wants me to revise or add to the bible and nowhere did I suggest that. I simply said maybe god wants to inspire people to add to the bible as he has done before, according to most christian sects. Maybe you believe that god has given his final inspiration to mankind. But there is no part of the christian bible that says “this is the end, -30-, peace out.”
What evidence do we have that St. Paul or St. John orthe Gospel writers should make the cut? Their word and people’s faith based belief. Are you requiring some sort of digital evidence that someone was inspired by god? Because that’s not how the bible was produced.
Your standard is arbitrary and probably based on your belief that god doesnt “do stuff” in modern times. But if god is who you say he is, he could pick someone at any time and tell them to write another testament.
Public revelation ceased with the death of the last Apostle
this makes total sense in that Jesus created the new covenant, and so all public divine revelation should be centered around his life. private revelation is a thing, but one is not obligated to believe in any private revelation as it is difficult to ascertain legitimacy. all that is necessary for entrance to heaven (i.e. salvation), has been revealed publicly through Jesus and the Apostles.
With Christ and the Apostles General Revelation Concluded.
Is this a divinely inspired conclusion? I read a few of those citations they list and I didnt see anything that said “there’s no more revelations here” Its a ridiculous stretch to say those passages imply and end to revelation. Which means the only way they could know that would be through divine revelation, which couldnt possibly happen, according to them.
Pope Pius X rejected the liberal Protestant and Modernistic doctrine of the evolution of religion through “New Revelations.” Thus he condemned the proposition that: “The Revelation, which is the object of Catholic Faith, was not terminated with the Apostles.” D 2021.
Which would seem to imply that such heresies of protestantism are in fact a product of the belief of ongoing revelation
I get what you are saying, but I don't agree. for the past 2000 years, all legit Christian churches have believed public revelation ended with Jesus and the apostles. If you believe otherwise, that is fine for you, but I think you would need some valid reference or reason as to why you are diverging from legitimate Christian teachings.
a lot of very powerful figures, kings, etc. have wanted to eliminate the old testament. it's a bit difficult to do that at this point. you like Christianity because it's a spiritual necessity that holds our society together. every civilisation had their own branding of this necessary facet. what jews did is successfully replace our own branding with a modelled-for-us branch of theirs, and then eliminated our old branding. so now we have the issue that if we get rid of Christianity, we no longer have anything to fall back on.
that is why jews both created christianity and want to get rid of it. they could never eliminate our spiritual branding back then without replacing it with something else, cause otherwise we would just fall back on a revised version of what we know with a new religion of our own. but now we're at the point where christianity is all we know.. so now they can try to eliminate it and our attachment to any spiritual bonds/code holding our society together and totally destroy our tribal unity. even in this modern age, they still can't wholly do this however, because people still seek something spiritual out.. so they have to bolster things like 'new age' spiritual crap to keep spiritual needs occupied without allowing any form of tribal unity in them.
any successful new religion we make obviously won't completely reject christianity but steal parts from it, just as christianity did. it was clear national socialism intended on doing this, slowly phasing out the shit in christianity that was harmful to our race. there's many things in christianity that i like, i.e bringing the community together every sunday to learn moral lessons. but the remodelling would have to so extensive that it will pretty much be a replacement.
ideally i'd like to see us revive the main greek gods as moral psychological egregores that people don't actually fanatically believe in, but their statues decorate our societies and stand for truth, loyalty, etc. with the whole formed by an unknown divine mind that we can only communicate with through scientific understanding. that was the path we were heading for before christianity overtook us.
I appreciate your thoughtful comments on religion, I've noticed them before.
Why Greek Gods? Is that a bloodline connection for you or because we have more stories intact or some other reason?
I have been trying to piece together what I can of the Germanic Gods for a few years now as a personal practice and I find the bloodline connection to be significant is why I ask. I've always loved Greek religious stories ever since I was a kid, but there's still a sense of "this doesn't belong to me, it's not a part of me" Anyway that's why I ask.
Better known, better history, and the seeds aren't just planted but sprouting. Everything in space is named after them. They're in the driver's seat for a new space age civilisation. They've also been what everyone who has fallen away from christianity since the renaissance has turned to, including the germanic nazis. Many freemasons in years past clearly wanted this, which is why so much architecture in america is greco-roman. Unfortunately they seem to have disappeared at an alarming rate recently, since the anti-white propaganda started controlling minds, and the sprouts are starting to wither.
They are the same gods, the same aryan pantheon, just with different names. And they are your genetics.. why do you think their old statues appear germanic? Aryans conquered india, persia, greece and spread through europe all around the same time.
I'll agree they're much closer than the semites. Different language tree though and I'm finding that to matter a lot, to myself and apparantly to Germanics throughout history too.
You do make reasonable points. It's something I could compromise to if that's where fate leads me but I'd definitely miss how intimately personal discovering the Germanic Gods feels.
I wouldn't discount how widespread Germanic religious references are though. It's somewhat regional but I've seen places with tons of roads and landmarks, we have 4 of the 7 days of the week, lots of White holiday traditions. And at least the Norse side of the religion kept it alive about a thousand years longer than the Greeks I believe. I'm sure I see more because I know what to look for now but it really is everywhere. The Gods still live just quietly, maybe sleeping.
I guess we'll just have to see who starts building the temples.
diff language tree? they both stem from indo-european. and as i said they're the same aryan pantheon so they're literally the same, totally pointless debating this. they're both your heritage. greeks civilised first living in a better area (rather than a forest) so their alterations are a bit more mature than any of the germanic ones, who don't even have any statues in their honour, just crude carvings. they stayed alive longer simply because it took longer to convert remote regions to christ. why do you think Hitler chose the greek gods? i'm pretty sure there's a quote where he says he's fairly ashamed of the rustic german gods.
I'm not debating I'm just giving you my personal experience and what I care about. This isn't exactly a rational topic it involves what is close to the heart, and part of what I'm describing is what is close to my heart.
Do you pray or sacrifice to your Greek Gods? Do you practice what you describe? Because I do. I do it alone and I hide it from everyone in my normal appearing life but it's probably the most important thing to me for the past couple years. It's not just an academic exercise to me, the Gods answer. Is this real for you or just an idea?
The language tree I'm talking about is the Germanic one, and there's a long history of that being a special ingroup. While this is fairly new to me it's my bloodline and I learn and I'm starting to understand why that bond exists. If you don't relate that's fine but it doesn't change the feeling of someone who has it. You can't just decide that's not something I experience.
You don't need to dominate me with your idea. I'm not trying to "win" here. I even said I could see your ideal as an acceptable option if fate took me there. I was just sharing my take, my ideal, and my experience.
The whole messiah part? Yeah, I'm not into it. I don't need to be saved, I can take care of that myself. My soul is worthy, by my judgement, of whatever comes after this life. Don't mistake me, I believe in a greater power than me. I just don't think it cares if I piss on your sister's roses. Morality is subjective, even throughout the different sects of Christianity. At the end of the day, if you can't tell good from evil then you are no different than a dog born without a foot or a sheep without wool. You're disabled. You should be put down. Does god care if you're born with spinal bifida? Odds are he doesn't care if you're born without empathy.
You take Christianity. If it works for you. I'm fine without it though.
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Christianity was a weapon used on us as revenge for Hadrian nearly wiping out the jews. It specifically runs counter to the values and morals that bound Rome together and made them strong. It did not come from White people and has successfully severed the tie between blood and religion to the point that Christians don't even remember it exists or is important. They think it's a choice, as if you can choose the nature of your spirit.
It inserts jewish ideas into it's followers brain, and teaches children from a young age that stories about jews are the most important stories in the world. You can become 100% redpilled later in life but those formative associations are there forever, and you'll forever have to fight them in your subconscious.
Those are more practical, surface level reasons and they're big ones. Depending on your level of belief I can get woo-woo on this too but I doubt those arguments would reach anyone.
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[ - ] Mike_Martini 2 points 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 18:51:24 ago (+2/-0)
Looking at the seven common Christian values, I believe our time is severely lacking in virtus.
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The Catholic Church hierarchy carries on that proud tradition
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It's one of the main points. It's why so many books list genealogies at the beginning.
The word 'jew' should be removed though as it is a made up word (by kike rabbis in the 1600s or so), and Europeans should be taught the truth that we are the Hebrews and the kikes are the Edomites, Canaanites, Amulek, and so on. (((They are our cousins however, cursed cousins who racemixed, or as the bible calls it, "took strange wives."
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jew bloodlines. Not mine. My blood runs to the forest and the mountains, not the desert. Those are not my people, my cousins, or my anything.
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Kikes didn't write the bible ... (((they))) wrote the talmud. There is a huge difference between the two making it quite obvious who wrote what
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Just because the biggest asshole to ever live coined it doesnt make it untrue
You fags Jimmys get so easily rustled lol
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It subverts the Heroic-Epic of your Ethnically-European ancestors and turns Europeans into slaves intended to serve the descendants of the Non-European people in the Bible... who are... guess who?
It's the fucking JEWS!
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[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 5 points 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 18:12:19 ago (+5/-0)
I can't fix Christianity because I don't believe it works. It never did. Not as I define 'working'. That isn't to say it hasn't done good things, but broken clocks twice a day and such...
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If you're an atheist or a strong theist, you may be dubious of my answer. But that's why I don't fit into either of those molds, and reject them both.
And your DVs aren't from me in this case, just to be clear.
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Downvotes don't matter but I appreciate your honesty. You see questioning religion (especially christianity) here is no different than questioning the holohoax in real life. Most won't discuss and rather name call or in this case downvote.
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Sometimes he sounds like the painting I just did. And sometimes he sounds like that tree w the red and green and yellow autumn leaves.
I'm not an animist. Trees don't have spirits, but trees are The Spirit. So are rocks and squirrels though.And the voices of my ancestors and friends and even myself are often his actual words.
This exchange between you and I. The experience of being alive is a back and forth conversation between myself and what I call God, the Universe.
God speaks to me when I don't want to work out, but know I should and then do. Or don't. God speaks to me when I sit at the bar and have a conversation w someone.
My God is everywhere, always, and I'm speaking to him right now.
I don't need a church because I wake up in one every day(as long as I keep waking up).
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Annnnyways if it works for you and doesn't bring any negativity than I'm happy for you.
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Another thing of notability at the end of the bible is it says to let the wicked continue being wicked and the filthy continue to be filthy. It seems to imply that Christians are not intended to interfere beyond warning those involved in wickedness and filth.
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[ - ] AntiPostmodernist [op] 0 points 2.5 yearsOct 28, 2022 14:11:03 ago (+0/-0)
We should cut out anything that impairs the book from being an optimal tool for the improvement of society.
We should leave in the stuff about the Bible never being permitted to be changed, it will help our case when we deny that we had made any changes to it. The people must believe that the perfected Bible was never altered from its original state.
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.5 yearsOct 28, 2022 22:15:07 ago (+0/-0)
The bible has been edited and censored 1000s of times
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Christianity is ritualistic cannibal humiliation. Drink his blood, eat his flesh and beg for his forgiveness because he died for you.... Just a kike guilt trip meant to pacify warlike heathen cultures.
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[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 2 points 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 19:29:33 ago (+2/-0)
If you create your own version, then it is by definition a fake. You would be making yourself god, rather than knowing the true God.
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[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 19:43:24 ago (+0/-1)
Maybe it’s divinely inspired. Maybe god wants people to write new scriptures.
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If God wanted us to be equal to Him, then why didn't he give us miraculous powers? Why didn't he make us equal to Him? As it is, we are not equal to God, and therefore cannot take it upon ourselves to act as God.
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What evidence do we have that St. Paul or St. John orthe Gospel writers should make the cut? Their word and people’s faith based belief. Are you requiring some sort of digital evidence that someone was inspired by god? Because that’s not how the bible was produced.
Your standard is arbitrary and probably based on your belief that god doesnt “do stuff” in modern times. But if god is who you say he is, he could pick someone at any time and tell them to write another testament.
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https://catholicism.org/has-divine-revelation-ceased.html
this makes total sense in that Jesus created the new covenant, and so all public divine revelation should be centered around his life. private revelation is a thing, but one is not obligated to believe in any private revelation as it is difficult to ascertain legitimacy. all that is necessary for entrance to heaven (i.e. salvation), has been revealed publicly through Jesus and the Apostles.
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Is this a divinely inspired conclusion? I read a few of those citations they list and I didnt see anything that said “there’s no more revelations here” Its a ridiculous stretch to say those passages imply and end to revelation. Which means the only way they could know that would be through divine revelation, which couldnt possibly happen, according to them.
Which would seem to imply that such heresies of protestantism are in fact a product of the belief of ongoing revelation
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that is why jews both created christianity and want to get rid of it. they could never eliminate our spiritual branding back then without replacing it with something else, cause otherwise we would just fall back on a revised version of what we know with a new religion of our own. but now we're at the point where christianity is all we know.. so now they can try to eliminate it and our attachment to any spiritual bonds/code holding our society together and totally destroy our tribal unity. even in this modern age, they still can't wholly do this however, because people still seek something spiritual out.. so they have to bolster things like 'new age' spiritual crap to keep spiritual needs occupied without allowing any form of tribal unity in them.
any successful new religion we make obviously won't completely reject christianity but steal parts from it, just as christianity did. it was clear national socialism intended on doing this, slowly phasing out the shit in christianity that was harmful to our race. there's many things in christianity that i like, i.e bringing the community together every sunday to learn moral lessons. but the remodelling would have to so extensive that it will pretty much be a replacement.
ideally i'd like to see us revive the main greek gods as moral psychological egregores that people don't actually fanatically believe in, but their statues decorate our societies and stand for truth, loyalty, etc. with the whole formed by an unknown divine mind that we can only communicate with through scientific understanding. that was the path we were heading for before christianity overtook us.
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 1 point 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 22:03:11 ago (+1/-0)
Why Greek Gods? Is that a bloodline connection for you or because we have more stories intact or some other reason?
I have been trying to piece together what I can of the Germanic Gods for a few years now as a personal practice and I find the bloodline connection to be significant is why I ask. I've always loved Greek religious stories ever since I was a kid, but there's still a sense of "this doesn't belong to me, it's not a part of me" Anyway that's why I ask.
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 23:06:28 ago (+0/-0)
They are the same gods, the same aryan pantheon, just with different names. And they are your genetics.. why do you think their old statues appear germanic? Aryans conquered india, persia, greece and spread through europe all around the same time.
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 1 point 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 23:55:35 ago (+1/-0)
You do make reasonable points. It's something I could compromise to if that's where fate leads me but I'd definitely miss how intimately personal discovering the Germanic Gods feels.
I wouldn't discount how widespread Germanic religious references are though. It's somewhat regional but I've seen places with tons of roads and landmarks, we have 4 of the 7 days of the week, lots of White holiday traditions. And at least the Norse side of the religion kept it alive about a thousand years longer than the Greeks I believe. I'm sure I see more because I know what to look for now but it really is everywhere. The Gods still live just quietly, maybe sleeping.
I guess we'll just have to see who starts building the temples.
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 2.5 yearsOct 27, 2022 00:31:29 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 1 point 2.5 yearsOct 27, 2022 01:36:41 ago (+1/-0)
Do you pray or sacrifice to your Greek Gods? Do you practice what you describe? Because I do. I do it alone and I hide it from everyone in my normal appearing life but it's probably the most important thing to me for the past couple years. It's not just an academic exercise to me, the Gods answer. Is this real for you or just an idea?
The language tree I'm talking about is the Germanic one, and there's a long history of that being a special ingroup. While this is fairly new to me it's my bloodline and I learn and I'm starting to understand why that bond exists. If you don't relate that's fine but it doesn't change the feeling of someone who has it. You can't just decide that's not something I experience.
You don't need to dominate me with your idea. I'm not trying to "win" here. I even said I could see your ideal as an acceptable option if fate took me there. I was just sharing my take, my ideal, and my experience.
I wish you had shown me the same respect.
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 1 point 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 19:04:57 ago (+1/-0)
You take Christianity. If it works for you. I'm fine without it though.
[ + ] boomerkiller
[ - ] boomerkiller 0 points 2.5 yearsOct 27, 2022 00:29:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood 0 points 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 19:49:17 ago (+0/-0)
Watch as clueless runs off the rails
[ + ] PrincessRobotBubblegum
[ - ] PrincessRobotBubblegum 0 points 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 18:07:23 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] gaybeeye
[ - ] gaybeeye -1 points 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 22:14:56 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks -3 points 2.5 yearsOct 26, 2022 21:25:11 ago (+0/-3)
The bible has been edited and censored 1000s of times
Every anti abortion nigger lover is an enemy of america
Zero exceptions
[ + ] boomerkiller
[ - ] boomerkiller 0 points 2.5 yearsOct 27, 2022 00:32:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.5 yearsOct 28, 2022 21:45:46 ago (+0/-0)
Cry harder
Your tears are delicious
[ + ] boomerkiller
[ - ] boomerkiller 0 points 2.5 yearsOct 28, 2022 23:21:38 ago (+0/-0)