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People think they are basically OK.

submitted by Scruffy_Nerfherder to Christianity 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 17:57:00 ago (+3/-3)     (Christianity)

I don't post much here, I hope you don't mind if I share a few thoughts. Atheists like to drive by and take pot shots at what they think Christianity is with out bothering to ever truly understand what it actually says. For full disclosure I am an ex-protestant turned Catholic, I think that will reflect in my definition.

Most people think they are basically good people that get one or two things wrong in life. It should all wash out in the end, and most people go to heaven unless they are racist. That is the only unpardonable sin.

Most Christians think they are basically good people who get one or two things wrong, but they have Jesus as a backup unless they get a little too carried away.

So, the reason Atheists cannot understand Christianity is because they don't understand sin.

This is how bad sin is.

Sin is so bad that God had to die and we have to eat him to be saved. THAT is what Catholicism teaches. Every word of that is very literal. That is Christianity in a nutshell.

If you do not follow this, you are bound to hell. (There is some nuance for this. Many Protestant sects only commune once a year and only see it as a symbol so they don't stress it's importance. You aren't held accountable for what you can't know.)

Again, Sin is so bad - God had to die, and you have to eat him.

Understand this and then you understand Christianity. If you don't understand this, then you really need to. You are not basically a good person, you (as are we all) are evil, Jesus says as much and rather plainly. Not comically evil, evil evil.

If you are going to take potshots and Christianity, at least take pot shots at what it really is. This Strawman stuff is pathetic. Better yet understanding the above definition, even if you don't become Christian will go a long way to making you a better person. At least you could show a little respect for someone that chooses to live a celibate life or works hard to stay away from the evils you think are benign.

As I said, that is the Catholic take on Christianity, but I have found it to be the most complete and true.


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[ - ] Spaceman84 5 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 17:59:32 ago (+5/-0)

I ain't worshipping no Hebrew deity or his jew bastard

[ - ] Love240 -1 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 20:01:06 ago (+0/-1)

To be 'jewish' is to attach yourself to the Old Testament promises made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; this means you have to become a debtor to do the whole law. Any ethnicity could do it since its inception.

Jesus Christ is the Word of God, The God of the Cosmos. He incarnated to pay the price of sin for all men, which is death, that his perfect righteousness demands. He fulfilled the righteous requirements of the law. Through Him we have access to the Father.

In this we share in his life and are born again, as he was the first born of the dead, having been risen from the dead the third day.

You have but one sin left, your unbelief in Lord Jesus. Thus; repent (turn from your current (self)understanding) and believe.

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 21:21:46 ago (+0/-0)

Cope harder honorary kike.

[ - ] Love240 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 21:30:00 ago (+0/-0)

Sorry for your condition.

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 21:33:12 ago (+0/-0)

Shalom rabbi

[ - ] Love240 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 21:50:03 ago (+0/-0)

Translation: Peace, teacher. Please, The Lord Jesus has told us that we shouldn't be called 'rabbi'.

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 13:08:42 ago (+0/-0)

You are a member of a semitic cult. You're an honorary kike. Don't feel bad. So are the Muslims.

[ - ] Love240 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 21:58:27 ago (+0/-0)

I'm not, but thanks for playing.

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 21:34:33 ago (+0/-0)

Not sorry for your spineless brainwashed mind set

The sooner christ cucks die off the better

[ - ] Love240 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 21:49:08 ago (+0/-0)

You shouldn't wish ill on yourself!

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 21:50:12 ago (+0/-0)

At least try making sense

[ - ] Love240 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 21:53:42 ago (+0/-0)

You are the 'Christ-cuck'. You harm yourself by your hatred for Christ.

You guys are like walking projectors. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 21:55:45 ago (+0/-0)

You think just like a democrat

Always accusing others of what you are doing

[ - ] Love240 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 22:07:27 ago (+0/-0)

You don't think, you just regurgitate the goylines you've gorged on and have settled in a complacent, self-hating swamp.

[ - ] Kozel 3 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:30:00 ago (+4/-1)

the reason Atheists cannot understand Christianity is because they don't understand sin

dumbass non argument. you really believe this?

God had to die and we have to eat him to be saved

retard cultist logic

you are bound to hel

the concept of hell did not exist in original forms of Christianity, it was added later by men to coerce other men.

get your head out of your ass, retard.

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 10:36:43 ago (+1/-0)

'Retard' What a well formed and intelligent rebuke of my points. I am clearly not your intellectual equal.

[ - ] Kozel 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 13:07:57 ago (+1/-0)

why waste words on retards if they won't understand higher topics?

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 9, 2022 18:58:12 ago (+0/-0)

Because I thought it was worth a shot.

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 9, 2022 19:05:11 ago (+0/-0)

do not pretend you are clever when your arguments are fallacies.

[ - ] deleted 3 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:17:13 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:19:57 ago (+0/-0)

It's funny to me that people can think that they are OK people advocate for the mass murder of children. People do funny things.

It's what God said though.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:23:47 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] -1 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:26:30 ago (+0/-1)

Reincarnation is for Hindus. We don't do that. You live once - die in the womb? Too bad it's over.

[ - ] Kozel 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 23:10:56 ago (+1/-0)

How can you talk shit about atheists and not believe in eternal soul? Many atheists believe in that, but you believe in magic sky dude and fake hell.

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 10:40:45 ago (+0/-0)

The soul is eternal, we don't get born again. We live once and then the judgement.

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 11:04:06 ago (+0/-0)

Nah thats all bullshit

Marx was certainly the biggest asshole ever but he was correct about religion being the opiate of the masses

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 21:35:28 ago (+0/-0)

Niggers aren't human

If you're anti abortion you're pro nigger

Nigger lovers are enemies of america

[ - ] deleted -2 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 19:19:06 ago (+1/-3)

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[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 23:29:14 ago (+0/-0)

Racism isn't even a thing let alone sinful.

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 10:34:11 ago (+1/-0)

That was my attempt at humor ;-), I totally agree that racism isn't real.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 22:01:20 ago (+0/-0)

Star wars name, I've read your post, and I think you need to learn where I'm coming from.

I think Christianity needs to change, the religion could be useful, but only after the Bible is rewritten in order to make it align with a better set of personal ethics and political interests.

One that embraces the idea of eugenics and social darwinism, defining good and evil by what is best for the future of humanity, the propagation of the genes that maximize the potential of all capabilities, including the optimal personality and blood type, optimal physical attractiveness, as well as the propagation of recessive phenotypes like red hair and green eyes.

I believe we can achieve this across the planet without the need for killing or denying anyone their ability to reproduce.

Simply through selectively determining who breeds with whom, we can ensure the dominance of favored genes among the population and reduce the spread of unfavorable genes.

We can use our knowledge of genetics to uplift our species though controlled reproduction.

Not to breed man to be incapable, docile, and weak-willed, but to be the opposite, potent, ambitious, and with a will to power that is far stronger than iron.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 23:31:35 ago (+0/-0)

think Christianity needs to change, the religion could be useful, but only after the Bible is rewritten in order to make it align with a better set of personal ethics and political interests.

Yeah that's called the same niting church. They have things like tranny pastors and ignore the bible entirely.

If you want to rewrite the bible feel free to go be a Mormon.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 23:56:37 ago (+0/-0)

I'm obviously not the same as them.

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 21:11:24 ago (+0/-0)

God does not exist

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 10:32:49 ago (+1/-0)

I think he would say otherwise.

[ - ] diggernicks 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 10:51:49 ago (+1/-0)

Did you just assume an imaginary friends gender!?

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:06:47 ago (+0/-0)

I'm okay

You're so-so

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 10:35:19 ago (+1/-0)

Thanks for the compliment, I'd say we are both very evil.

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 13:36:25 ago (+0/-0)

You're too kind.

I do strive to be a more tidy type of nerfherder, however.

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 9, 2022 18:57:39 ago (+0/-0)

The Scruffy kind is the only way to be!

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 9, 2022 19:38:50 ago (+0/-0)

I am very iconoclastic or something.

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:02:37 ago (+2/-2)

turned Catholic

DiggerNicks alert!

Sin is so bad - God had to die, and you have to eat him.


I'm not an atheist but, I don't think this is helping your argument for catholicism.

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:13:05 ago (+1/-0)

Did I forget the "or go to hell" part?

[ - ] deleted 3 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:18:13 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:21:02 ago (+1/-0)

I can't argue with that point except to say that it's going to get worse.

[ - ] deleted 3 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:24:22 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 10:50:52 ago (+1/-0)

LOL, there is - but you won't like my answer.

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:32:48 ago (+0/-0)

If you're fine reducing your religion to complete absurdity you do that thing.

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 10:50:07 ago (+1/-0)

That is a condensed version of how Christ himself described it. "If you do not eat my flesh you do not have life."

The Apostles knew exactly what he was saying as did the crowds of people following him. Many left. Christ turned to the Apostles and asked if they would leave as well.

Peter replied, "Where can we go? you have the words of eternal life."

You either believe Christ or you don't. It is a hard thing to believe, that is why there are Eucharistic miracles where the reality of what is happening is allowed to be revealed by God. Many times the host bleeds (though that is not the only form of the miracle) and the blood type is always the same - AB negative. Of course they have it tested.

They are all over youtube if you care to search them out.

[ - ] diggernicks 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 10:52:18 ago (+1/-0)

Fuck yeah!

Me!

[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 19:23:38 ago (+0/-0)

Pim! I'm Catholic!

But I kinda stopped liking the church so much after they started criticizing me for the color of my skin and gender. Not to mention the kiddie diddling. Knew some people that got caught up in that...

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 19:50:07 ago (+0/-0)

tbh, I don't much care what everyone here religion is. Except for jews. They can't post here. I wouldn't care much if muslim niggers wanted to post. That might be interesting. But no jews.

What religion the people here who are regular actual posters, and not feds or jew trolls and such, is the last thing I'm interested in.

[ - ] 3Whuurs -1 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:47:41 ago (+0/-1)

Ever done a DNA test on what you’re “eating”?

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 10:32:00 ago (+1/-0)

Yes, they are called Eucharistic miracles. The blood type is always AB negative and it is heart muscle from the left ventricle from a person right at the point of death. In the mass the host appears as bread and wine, but there are times when God allows what is actually going on to shine through. Usually to combat unbelief in the Church, because it is a hard thing to believe.

I think you have a lot reading to do. Not all Eucharistic miracles involve the transformation of the host, there are multiple types of miracles. Some saints have lived for years on nothing but the consecrated hosts (One a day, and no, that is not enough calories to sustain life.) Some are rather comical. All of the major ones that are church approved have independent scientific investigation. Sometimes it turns out to be something else, like bacterial growth that appears red.

Good luck with your research.

[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 8, 2022 17:24:52 ago (+0/-0)

This is great news!!

I look forward to you providing at least 5 peer reviewed AND independently investigated scientific study’s proving the sacrament a priest put in to someone’s mouth had a human AB negative blood type.

Wouldn’t want other people AND your own god thinking you’re honouring him by just making shit up to humiliate him.

I eagerly await these MANY scientific proofs of crackers with AB negative blood types.

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 9, 2022 18:56:58 ago (+0/-0)

What I hear is, "I'm too lazy to google it."

[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 10, 2022 00:22:37 ago (+0/-0)

Exactly like I thought.
Not 1 single shred of scientific proof.

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 10, 2022 12:26:53 ago (+0/-0)

BS games aside - you're not going to look because you know it is out there and easy to find. If there is even a chance that the Church is right about something as hard to believe as Transubstantiation then there is a chance we are right about something as serious as hell.

It's your soul, you are also responsible for your soul. I'm not going to play your game.

At the end of your life you will stand before God, if you want that meeting to go well you have some work to do. Repentance and penance go a long way. Take a second and reflect, if you think you're mostly good and just need a little tweaking - well, then you are the person that this post was meant for.

[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 10, 2022 15:51:06 ago (+0/-0)

Man, quit projecting your insecurities and failures.

YOU made the very long winded and specific claim there’s TONS of scientific studies proving crackers have had a AB Negative blood type.
And now you’re refusing to provide a shred of evidence for it

YOU MADE THE CLAIM, NOW THE ONUS OF PROOF IS ON YOU.

Surprised there’s still an adult alive shameless enough to resist this fact and just admit they lied lmfao.

[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder [op] 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 11, 2022 10:12:41 ago (+0/-0)

LOL, good luck with all that.

[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 19:25:41 ago (+0/-0)

Doubting Thomas...?

[ - ] 3Whuurs -1 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 19:41:18 ago (+0/-1)

Just hoping to convince one of you to ask a couple questions before accepting another man in your mouth and calling him god…

[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 19:51:14 ago (+0/-0)

You clearly missed the point OP was making.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 18:02:59 ago (+1/-2)

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[ - ] deleted -1 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 19:21:48 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 23:32:54 ago (+0/-0)

Which documents do we share?

I keep reading about all this anti white stuff that is "in the bible" that comes from bizarre ass Jewish chapter names which absolutely are not in the bible.

If you're going to hang shit on Christians at least quote a Christian source...

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 7, 2022 23:41:09 ago (+0/-0)

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