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Monkeywerx shows the flight path of the US Navy air-to-sea-torpedo-capable aircraft that flew over the Nord Stream the night of the bombing

submitted by Belmont to WorldNews 1.6 yearsOct 4, 2022 23:29:26 ago (+28/-0)     (images.squarespace-cdn.com)

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5ebc7777b9baca5e7205426f/25923d4c-58ec-4d00-86ba-177439eff64a/P8+Weapons+Release.png?format=1500w

https://www.monkeywerxus.com/blog/the-nord-stream-2-pipeline-sabotage

note the little hump just before the climb out (red arrow). That is consistent with a weapons release.

3. We have a US Navy P8 fly from the United States to a refueling rendezvous point over Grudziądz Poland at 0210 hrs GMT

4. The two aircraft, Callsign N/A, and BART12 sync up at 26,400 ft for an extended 1:20 minute refueling, disconnecting at 0328 hrs GMT

5. The BART12 air refueler RTB’d to Spangdahlem Air Base Germany and one should note the flight record has been wiped

6. The Navy P8 then continues onto the Nord Stream Pipeline location and descends to an altitude of <10,000 ft at 0345 hrs GMT

7. The Navy P8 exits the area just prior to 0700 hrs and is the only aircraft over the area the entire time

8. At 0709 hrs GMT the Navy P8 returns back to the United States.


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[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers 8 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 00:57:16 ago (+8/-0)

I just learned today that there are people who thought it was a terrorist attack. I didn't even know people didn't know it was the us military

[ - ] boekanier 8 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 01:23:50 ago (+8/-0)

terrorist attack? yeah, by the US.

[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 07:53:53 ago (+0/-0)

Burgers call it "exporting democracy"

[ - ] BulletStopper 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 05:15:48 ago (+0/-0)

LOL. Yep, for certain values of "terrorist", it kind'a was.

On the gripping hand, I suppose I should be happy to know that, in an organization where 83% of the rated deck officers can't pass a simulator test of maneuvering a warship, while NOT colliding with any other ships, the navy.gov has still somehow retained the capability to hit a submerged, stationary (non-maneuvering), target sitting on the bottom, the ten digit grid for which is fixed, known and unchanging.

Don't know how many shots it took though. Still, they did manage to hit it, so at least we've got that going for us.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 5 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 04:07:27 ago (+5/-0)

Wow. Lots of effort put into that. All that data pointing in the same direction. No mention of any data that might point somewhere else. Some pretty pictures. Very convincing. Doesn't actually link to any of its sources, even though it claims they're all open source, but hey, let's be real... who's gonna check those anyway, amirite guyz?

One little problem though. Well, lots of little problems. But one slightly less little than the others:

6. The Navy P8 then continues onto the Nord Stream Pipeline location (...) at 0345 hrs GMT

We got 'em, boys! Tracked down to the minute.

Except the NS2 pipeline explosion happened at 0203 hours CEST. That's 0003 hours GMT. A solid three and a half hours, and some change, BEFORE this plane arrived at the area.

Which means that, unless there's some sort of time travel involved, or some sort of quantum paradox inverted causality, it couldn't have been the cause of the explosion. It could only be there to survey what had already happened. Which would explain why it was sent there. And why it descended to a lower altitude. And why it circled around the area for a while. And everything else that was so carefully presented to look like "proof".

You would think that someone who put all this effort into collecting and presenting all this data about the incident... would have also checked WHEN the incident happened, and whether it lines up with the timeline of their theory. Unless, of course, they're not interested in what actually happened, and only in pushing a certain narrative about it.

They even mention the seismic readings hitting 2.3 magnitude... and claim this was "at the same time" (without providing an actual time) in point 9. But that is a verifiable lie. Those readings came in several hours before all this.

[ - ] Belmont [op] 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 04:25:32 ago (+0/-0)

Which would explain why it was sent there.

The Navy plane, if these visuals are genuine, crossed the Atlantic. If they weren't the perpetrators, there was no need for secrecy. They could have announced they were sending in an aircraft with the top systems for assessing what had happened.

I admit I've lacked a gut sense of being deeply convinced by his evidence, but I can't explain why.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 04:47:48 ago (+2/-1)

Considering this was all tracked using publicly available information, I don't understand what secrecy you're talking about.

Planes, military and civilian, cross the Atlantic every day. Why would you expect a special announcement? When there's a massive explosion at a fuel pipeline, big enough to register as a moderate earthquake, it kind of stands to reason that everyone with the means to do so is going to go have a look at what happened. That shouldn't be surprising in any way.

Again, short of time travel or causality inversion, there's no two ways to interpret this. The plane was obviously there to survey the damage, and whoever made that video and blog post is clearly lying and intentionally misrepresenting the data to push a false narrative.

[ - ] Belmont [op] 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 05:08:26 ago (+0/-0)

I don't understand what secrecy you're talking about.

If the video/publicly available information has not been falsified: Masking the call sign. A 1:20 air refueling instead of landing on the ground. Flying a plane across the ocean and back secretly instead of using one openly in Europe.

But that's for other readers' benefit, not yours because

there's no two ways to interpret this. The plane was obviously there to survey the damage

Obviously not the case.

[ - ] GloryBeckons -2 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 06:09:18 ago (+1/-3)

Obviously not the case.

Yeah, I suppose it could have been loaded with top-secret hyper-luminal torpedos which are so fast that they break the light barrier and cause explosions 4 hours in the past. Can't ignore that very real possibility. In fact, that should be our default assumption, until the US proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that it doesn't have hyper-luminal time-traveling torpedos.

[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 04:31:37 ago (+0/-0)

The P-8 could have been there as "bomb damage assessment" as you suggested. These aircraft are trackable by the public only if their transponders are transmitting on the right frequencies. I figure if the US military is going to make an attack like this, they'd probably switch off transponders or use different codes/frequencies.

If you really want to covertly blow up an underwater pipeline, you'd send an underwater drone, or Navy SEAL divers. The pipeline is only 80-110 meters deep apparently, which SEALS can dive to. Or obviously a submarine could torpedo the pipeline as well.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 04:57:00 ago (+0/-0)

That's all true. Incidentally, Russia likes to brag about its submarines and has been blowing lots of things up recently.

[ - ] Rotteuxx 1 point 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 10:18:54 ago (+1/-0)*

The US also took part in naval exercises right by the site of the pipeline explosions not long before, no sources for you unfortunately, just bits of info I recall reading a day or two after it happened.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 17:46:48 ago (+0/-0)

Entirely possible the US caused the explosions. Entirely possible Russia caused the explosions. Entirely possible some other party did it. I've yet to encounter any convincing evidence any which way. But plenty of zealots spreading lies, rumors and half-truths in support of their masters, and unable to admit that other options exist.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 08:35:12 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Cantaloupe 3 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 01:17:22 ago (+3/-0)

Pretty certain is was an underwater drone.

[ - ] Bonanza 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 07:36:30 ago (+0/-0)*

Yep. Not sure if this has been posted yet, but in case nobody's seen it, here is an article from last year written from the Russian perspective on exactly how the Nord Stream pipelines could be successfully attacked (UUV), who would be behind it (guess), & the countermeasures to prevent it from happening. Pretty interesting.. https://tinyurl.com/kmxwjjww

[ - ] Belmont [op] 3 points 1.6 yearsOct 4, 2022 23:36:44 ago (+3/-0)*

From the day before the writeup, Monkeywerx video starting at refuelling over Poland, the air refueler from Spangdahlem Air Base Germany.

https://youtu.be/Jfpw9I01J0o?t=931

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 08:39:42 ago (+0/-0)

How can info like this just be out there for anyone to see?

[ - ] Belmont [op] 0 points 1.6 yearsOct 5, 2022 09:03:50 ago (+0/-0)