Open discussion on the merits and pratfalls of various self defence items. Several reasons to have pepper spray and a taser even if you are carrying a handgun. -You cannot walk around with a handgun in your hand. If you CCW, you cannot even lift your shirt to reveal the weapon, it's considered brandishing in most states and will get you arrested. You can walk around with a container of pepper spray IN YOUR HAND without any problems. You can show it to someone and tell them you will douse them if they come any closer and nothing will be done to you. Technically it's assault to threaten, but with a defence component most prosecutors will not bother to try it. Even if you had a scenario where there were no witnesses testifying against you, or video and you pepper srayed some random nigger I doubt the cops would arrest you if you said he threatened you. Police are taught that 20 feet of distance is required to prevent getting stabbed by an assailant before you can unholster and bring yor handgun to bear on them. You hit them with pepper spray and it may give you the time you need to train your weapon on them. If you shoot and kill an unarmed nigger that is attacking you in most states you will be incarcerated for the rest of your life. Ask the McMichaels. It will be pounded into the jurists heads. "Unarmed...Black...Man..." You pepper spray the nigger, taze him and then beat the living shit out of him while he is incapacitated and the most you are looking at is assault with battery if there is a defence component. No prior convictions? You will walk on parole. You may have to clean up some riverbank on community service. If you encounter a dog that attacks your dog while you are walking them, if you shoot, you run the risk of hitting your dog, you can be charged with discharging a weapon within city limits. If you kill the offending dog and get a woman judge, too many women dog lovers on the jury and you will be found guilty. Same scenario with the pepper spray, even if yo catch your dog with the spray too, it's non-lethal and they will recover. It's a great deterant to an attacking dog. Just the crackle of a taser is enough to deter someone. I carry one that is incorporated into a flashlight that serves double duty.
In California a car gun has to be in a locked container with the magazine unloaded. The few times I've had to take it out someone was following me and I had time to prepare, and even so it is a dubious affair when adrenaline is pumping and you have to drive a car and fidget with a lock. If the threat is immediate, I am effectively without a gun. More than likely, if I carry illegally I will get pulled over by the police and face imprisonment in county jail for up to one year, and/or a maximum fine of $1,000. If charged as a felony, the offense could lead to a jail sentence of up to three years.
I have a niche business and a decade worth of clients. I'm afraid that if I move to a different state I wouldn't make enough to pay for housing and food without running through my savings and having nothing left for my children.
If you sell all your property and move some place sensible, your housing will be a fraction. As far your business? Can you start over? Commiefornia is trying to kill people off like you. Fold your cards and move on.
the only property I have is tools and car. I've a sizable chunk of cash but its nowhere near enough to buy anything. Best I can afford is to buy a barren plot of land without plumbing, pay a contractor to lay a foundation, and stick a tesla box home on it.
If you sell all your property and move some place sensible, your housing will be a fraction. As far your business? Can you start over? Commiefornia is trying to kill people off like you. Fold your cards and move on.
Better yet, you tell the judge “your honor, I had pepper spray in my pocket but I felt so much fear for my life I had to choose the pistol, there was just no time.”
Pepper spray seems like a great choice for non-lethal deterrence at range. Have to be careful of wind speed & direction though.
Stun gun seems like a good option for close range as well. Even if it doesn't put the adversary down immediately, it would still be disruptive and definitely get their attention.
As op points out, being able to show someone the outcome if they press the matter further without fear of prosecution seems like a big plus to me.
Choosing high-risk areas in false securement of surroundings allow Vegas body counts. Public Venues are the barrels the fish are shot in. Public is where the want you. Wake the fuck up,your dirt nap is before you.
I saw a young lady pepper spray a harassing homeless nigger. She went right back to chatting with her friend. I got the feeling she had done it before and was confident that he was gone for good. He ran up the street, blind and shrieking, running into cars, the sides of buildings, face planting. The shit worked great. I briefly considered buying some.
I have seen videos of first amendment auditors in California, Bay area transparency, San Joaquin valley transparency, furry potato, etc... When anyone gets aggressive with them they pull out pepper spray and threaten them with it, often using it on them. The cops inevitably come and nothing happens to them.
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Pepper spray seems like a great choice for non-lethal deterrence at range. Have to be careful of wind speed & direction though.
Stun gun seems like a good option for close range as well. Even if it doesn't put the adversary down immediately, it would still be disruptive and definitely get their attention.
As op points out, being able to show someone the outcome if they press the matter further without fear of prosecution seems like a big plus to me.
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[ - ] texasblood -1 points 1.6 yearsSep 26, 2022 21:12:07 ago (+0/-1)
Your rationalization skills suck ass there clown shoes.
Clearly you never served or fired a weapon.
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Your muscle memory faster than mine.
Roll the dice.....
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Public Venues are the barrels the fish are shot in.
Public is where the want you.
Wake the fuck up,your dirt nap is before you.
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I often see these terms conflated.
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