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Do launched rockets ever go UP?

submitted by Panic to spaceflight 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 16:12:30 ago (+7/-0)     (www.wgal.com)

https://www.wgal.com/article/bright-light-spotted-over-south-central-pennsylvania/41371430

For 19 years, I lived in Florida and could watch launches including Space Shuttle launches. They always went straight up for a ways then curved off. Never straight up.

In this linked video, a Florida launch is seen going sideways over Pennsylvania. Doesn't look all that high in the sky. Can anybody explain this?


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[ - ] PearofAnguishJuniorManager 13 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 16:35:31 ago (+13/-0)*

The trajectories curve because they’re trying to slide into a specific orbital ‘lane’. You don’t parallel park by racing in head first. Unless you’re a woman.
Play ‘Kerbal Space Center’. You can choose to launch on a straight line if you want to fail every mission. It’s a rookie mistake trying to save fuel by going straight to the target. You burn all your reserve fuel trying to slow down when you go straight in, and your kerbals end up somewhere between high orbit and the moon, with no fuel, and will starve in space every time.

It looks like a kids game, but it teaches you quite a bit about launching. Many brave Kerbals died to bring you this information.

[ - ] _Obrez 1 point 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 19:00:55 ago (+1/-0)

All true, but also, the reason the curve can appear much steeper than it is, is because of your relative position to the rocket and the fact that on a spherical earth the difference between your true vertical. And the true vertical of a distant object diverge from perpetually parallel until it becomes obvious that their is a degree of angular variance to between the objects.

Visualized in 2D: on a clock, with a center of gravity at the point where the hands rotate, from 12:00 and 12:01 would look essentially parallel if you stood on the markers but those 6 degree of variation would be miles of difference at 30,000 feet above each mark on the clock.

Back on earth if you are a safe distance for viewing a rocket launch the difference would be roughly 0.04 degrees but yet again what is roughly 2.5 miles on the surface would be would be a greater difference the higher up that imaginary vertical line, add in the fact the vessel is curving for it's orbital path and likely curving away from inhabited viewing locations, the reason launch sites are often on the coast, and that it is physically traveling away from you, you will perceive a severe turn when it isn't nearly so severe from the perspective of the rocket.

[ - ] PearofAnguishJuniorManager 1 point 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 19:25:05 ago (+1/-0)*

Thank Christ you opened with ‘spherical Earth’. I was braced for a fire hose of flat earth horse shit.

[ - ] Thatguy 3 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 16:43:37 ago (+3/-0)

The amount of energy required to escape earths gravity field is enormous. That’s why moonshots are few and far between.

[ - ] lord_nougat 3 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 16:20:10 ago (+3/-0)

ROCKETS ARE FLAT!

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 4 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 16:54:15 ago (+4/-0)

Your mom's a rocket.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 2 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 21:49:19 ago (+2/-0)

To orbit the earth you must go around it not away from it.
They only go up until they reach thin air then turn sideways to build up enough speed to orbit.

SpaceX starling orbits are very low so they don't go up long.

[ - ] GlowNiggerDick 2 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 17:42:31 ago (+2/-0)

Because they're trying to orbit earth. You can't orbit earth heading straight up.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 21:05:34 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] RedBarchetta 1 point 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 20:15:16 ago (+1/-0)

"why rockets travel across the sky instead of going straight up" Any search engine brings back pages of results.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 17:58:37 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 16:51:48 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 16:39:49 ago (+1/-0)*

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[ - ] Teefinyomouf 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 22:17:18 ago (+0/-0)

SpaceZ rockets do. SpaceX rockets mostly move sideways.

[ - ] dicedice 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 22:04:54 ago (+0/-0)

A little bit of a tangent, but any of these space shuttle launches would be great cover for launching an attack. They could be firing that thing anywhere in the world and it could wreck somebody's day. Meanwhile people at the launch site are cheering it on oblivious to the destruction.

You only have the word of the people shooting large, combustible obects into the sky at speed that it's going to space. And people would get upset if you didn't shoot the thing off.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 17:55:53 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 17:43:59 ago (+0/-0)

Can't reach escape velocity, too slow n heavy.

[ - ] DoctorK 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 16:34:56 ago (+0/-0)

It's the rotation of earth. Looks like they curve the same direction every time too.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 21:09:37 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] DoctorK 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 28, 2022 08:15:54 ago (+0/-0)

You're right.

Rockets have to tilt to the side as they travel into the sky in order to reach orbit, or a circular path of motion around the Earth. This steering technique is known as a gravity turn, which uses Earth's gravity to help conserve rocket fuel and minimize stress and strain on the spacecraft.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 17:50:58 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] thoughtcryme -2 points 1.6 yearsSep 25, 2022 16:17:29 ago (+1/-3)

the universe is curved, its a mirage, your eyes are lying to get government grants but nasa never does