I had a similar situation when I was pulling weather/climate data for my area from the NOAA website for gardening purposes. Just for kicks I pulled a few of the most recent years, then I pulled several from the very first years of data back in early 1900s. Data is practically identical. Temps haven't changed, rainfall hasn't changed in 100 years.
I think that's why they push this so hard especially on young students who are too young to have experienced an unchanging climate and believe them more eagerly
His name is Randall Carlson. He's helping to uncover and show evidence of massive climate change and massive floodsthat could have been caused by the abrupt emergence from the Younger Dryas ice age. If there is anything worth watching on YouTube. His channel is well worth it. Very smart man.
The video that contains the clip you are looking for is here:
Historical argument isn't that relevant. They can just say that yeah, it was warmer then, but we didn't have all this fragile civilization built up that is a house of cards ready to fall when anything shifts a little. Now, a little climate change will wreck things to collapse. Therefore we have to prevent any change. Change baaaaaad!
Now all of that aside, there's nothing wrong with not shitting up the only planet we have to live on because, you know, we have to live on it. But shifting it so that the consumer suffers without adequate replacement technologies is bullshit.
Tony Heller at his realclimatescience website has written several posts about the temperature alterations. It was also known as climategate at some point, when some internal emails were exposed showing scientists trying to make graphs look better for narrative purposes.
I'll have to read through those in a bit. A bit busy at the moment but I absolutely will read through them.
Question: Every email has header text that can be used to verify the authenticity of the contents of the email. Have these emails been through such an investigative process to confirm them?
It's a good question, but I believe in general these are accepted to be real since no one has said otherwise. You can read the kikepedia insert on this if you like. Of course they denied the meaning of the emails, and it was "fact checked", "presented by climate deniers", and "taken out of context."
It's good to follow Tony Heller on Youtube. He picks apart the history of temperature records quite frequently on his channel.
But I'm always interested in any new info. If you find something let me know. This whole climate business is really quite a complex thing, depending on how you want to tackle it.
The simplest approach is to suspect that CO2 is not really a climate driver at all. And then go from there.
The other approaches are to try to debunk the narrative through the temperature records, climate models, green agendas, disaster capitalists, profiteers and/or globalist motives. Lots of avenues to choose from and get bogged down into.
I like the approach that all the climate models we've been presented with the past 10-20 years, none of them predicted the temperature correctly for today. We didn't get the sea rise. The polar caps didn't melt. Etc. etc. So who thinks they suddenly are correct now today, when they again make their proclamations for 20 years into the future.
I think the climate models are all garbage. I said the same thing on OG Voat probably when it was still Whoaverse. People didn't like it then, but today we can look back and we know they were garbage. The "scientists" don't have a clue what they are doing. They are just well funded and like to tinker with their models. So they tinker and adjust them, and then make regular proclamations, so that they can secure their next round of funding.
Like the the astrophysicist says in the video link posted in another comment here; it's all a big gravy train.
Through out time, Mother nature has done more damage to this planet in short amount of time it dwarfs any damage that humans are capable of. Even if we fuck up our ecosystem now it will recover. It always has.
That's a "distinction without a difference." Sure, we won't fuck up the planet to the point that it can't recover. We certainly don't have the means. But that sure as fuck doesn't mean we can't kill all human life on it and that sure as fuck is the same thing to us.
All4Gaia is correct. If we go any lower the plants will literally stop growing. The ecosystem as we know it will effectively crash. We are at a low point in historical time time for C02 concentration.
I've said this many times. It seems like all of these rabid "we have to make less CO2!!" idiots missed that year of elementary school science where you learn that we breathe oxygen and produce CO2 but plants do the inverse so that's why we keep each other in balance. They want to plant more trees which is great, but... Trees need that evil CO2 to live
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I think that's why they push this so hard especially on young students who are too young to have experienced an unchanging climate and believe them more eagerly
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They lied about the food pyramid
They lied about Epstein's island
They lied about Russian collusion
Think they're telling the truth about this?
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The video that contains the clip you are looking for is here:
Warning Youtube links:
https://youtu.be/wNsSTKtdy8w
Randall Expands more on it in Ep088 on his channel. Direct link to the video is below:
https://youtu.be/-j6FZcmZmPQ
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https://files.catbox.moe/3hfv2t.mp4
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Now all of that aside, there's nothing wrong with not shitting up the only planet we have to live on because, you know, we have to live on it. But shifting it so that the consumer suffers without adequate replacement technologies is bullshit.
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Example email:
https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Screen-Shot-2017-01-10-at-7.27.04-AM.gif
Temperature graph flip flops before and after:
https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/NASA-US-1999-2019-1.gif
https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/2018-10-28161151_shadow-1024x733.png
Posts on the topic:
"Alterations To The US Temperature Record"
https://realclimatescience.com/alterations-to-the-us-temperature-record/
"Are Government Temperature Graphs Credible?"
https://realclimatescience.com/are-government-temperature-graphs-credible/
"Climate Scientists Rewriting The Past"
https://realclimatescience.com/climate-scientists-rewriting-the-past/
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Question: Every email has header text that can be used to verify the authenticity of the contents of the email. Have these emails been through such an investigative process to confirm them?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy
It's good to follow Tony Heller on Youtube. He picks apart the history of temperature records quite frequently on his channel.
But I'm always interested in any new info. If you find something let me know. This whole climate business is really quite a complex thing, depending on how you want to tackle it.
The simplest approach is to suspect that CO2 is not really a climate driver at all. And then go from there.
The other approaches are to try to debunk the narrative through the temperature records, climate models, green agendas, disaster capitalists, profiteers and/or globalist motives. Lots of avenues to choose from and get bogged down into.
I like the approach that all the climate models we've been presented with the past 10-20 years, none of them predicted the temperature correctly for today. We didn't get the sea rise. The polar caps didn't melt. Etc. etc. So who thinks they suddenly are correct now today, when they again make their proclamations for 20 years into the future.
I think the climate models are all garbage. I said the same thing on OG Voat probably when it was still Whoaverse. People didn't like it then, but today we can look back and we know they were garbage. The "scientists" don't have a clue what they are doing. They are just well funded and like to tinker with their models. So they tinker and adjust them, and then make regular proclamations, so that they can secure their next round of funding.
Like the the astrophysicist says in the video link posted in another comment here; it's all a big gravy train.
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In biblical times when people lived to 900 or more years, the co2 levels were much much higher
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