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why does talking about a past depression cause some people to vehemently angry towards the once-depressed person?

submitted by HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers to AskGoats 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 21:18:02 ago (+8/-0)     (AskGoats)

I just told a buddy about a bout of depression I had 13 years ago that lasted about 4.5 years and he said this:

Being depressed and having anxiety issues šŸ™ƒ sounds like pure bs.

I dropped out of high school at 15 and had to sleep under bridges until I got a job working on a construction crew and my boss let me sleep in his garage.

Never had anytime to feel sorry for myself or get depressed.

Maybe you had it too good and that's why you had those 1st world problems. But now you're a man and you gotta pull your own head out of your ass!

If you take more joo psychotropic drugs even 1 more time, you might as well give up because you're just a waste of human flesh. Not worthy or capable of helping the cause we face today.

You might as well get double jabbed and boosted too with the joo juice.


I'm not and haven't been depressed in a long time. I've seen people react similarly to other people talking about a past depression. But ahhh.. what's with his response?


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[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 8 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 21:51:38 ago (+8/-0)

Some people can't talk about it. He's probably going through his own shit, but he can't bring himself to express it so he lashed out. Everyone I know is fighting for their life one way or another, some people just aren't capable of talking about it. I've dealt with terrible depression on and off my whole life. It's hard to talk about it with people that feel like they've had it worse. Everyone thinks they've had it worse. It doesn't sound like you were mining sympathy. Everyone is going through it right now, and it's going to get worse before it gets better.

[ - ] lord_nougat 4 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 21:48:19 ago (+4/-0)

Idunno. I suppose it is normal to not want to do anything occasionally and to just give zero fucks about anything and lack all enthusiasm. Even then, one must still get one's shit together and at least go through the motions of doing one's job. I find in times like these, the job usually forces me to actually do real work by throwing some awful emergency at me making me snap out of faking it mode to get into real problem solving and creative thinking mode... but that's just me.

I suppose it is also normal to resent or be upset at someone who has openly embraced their weakness rather than fighting it, because that weakness just strikes men as pathetic and contemptible, whether that is right or wrong, it is just a natural reaction I think.

But that is just all like my opinion, man. I only took a few psychology classes; I didn't get a doctorate in that.

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 2 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 23:17:15 ago (+2/-0)*

I get the contemptible weakness part, but the ENTIRE reason I mentioned this to him in the first place is because I was telling him there are causes worth fighting for and risking ones life for because some things are worse than death. I'm sorry, but like my ancestors if my future is enslavement (not saying this is something pending or on the cusp of happening; I'm referencing a specific historical event) then I would anhero and take my family with me. There is a story of 400 Germanians in a community during the Roman empire where they were conquered and we're coming back to take them as slaves and the mothers poisoned themselves and their children. Scorched earth motherfucker (guess that 3.5% Russian DNA is kicking in). Death IS an option.

I guess I'm getting at something also akin to the Spartans. They obviously knew they could die in battle.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 00:32:22 ago (+1/-0)

Fair points.

You could have, perhaps, added those details in your initial dialogue, but it's okay - you were clearly going for brevity. As was I.

I meant no personal offense. Depression is a fucking bitch. I find alcohol to be a relatively useful tool, but that's just me. I can get somewhat shitfaced and still report for duty in the morning and I know it doesn't work for everyone that way.

Stay strong, my friend. We're a bunch of assholes, but we're with you nonetheless.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 12:13:03 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 12:14:13 ago (+0/-0)

Sorry about that. It was a momentary lapse.

I was a little bit drunk.

[ - ] xmasskull 4 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 21:23:51 ago (+4/-0)

Because you sound like a whiner,complaining all the fucking time.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 22:16:04 ago (+2/-0)

Lol

[ - ] Nosferatjew 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 23:30:58 ago (+0/-0)

Seriously. OP should hurry tf up and do a flip.

[ - ] yesiknow 3 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 21:26:19 ago (+3/-0)

Because he's tired of hearing the same shit from every boy who got messed around by universal public schooling, and won't put the blame where it belongs?

Starting 1990, teachers were told that girls didn't demand enough attention, and they were supposed to reverse that by manipulating the class according to what sex they were. Girls got better attention for needing attention, the boys got the opposite. That's why women under 30 are the most insecure group of attention seekers of any generation.

Over 80% of the drug deaths are male, and their suicide rate is three times higher.

Depressed and having anxiety issues sounds like pure bs....if you refuse, with all the others, to recognize an external source.

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 1 point 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 23:35:41 ago (+1/-0)

won't put the blame where it belongs?

This is all invalid because I'm not depressed now, nor did I say the cause of my depression. I'm curious as to what this means. You THINK you know parts of the conversation and are speaking with conviction, but you couldn't know the answers, and are, in fact, off base.

Depressed and having anxiety issues sounds like pure bs....if you refuse, with all the others, to recognize an external source.

What are you saying here? Are those your words or were you quoting the op?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 22:41:49 ago (+2/-0)

Because depression is contagious. He might not be consciously aware of why you upset him, but at some point we have to shut out negative talk from others or we will succumb to it.

Also I think that talking about your ailments or hardships may be a passive plea for sympathy or some other ask. Manipulative people are often complainers (like jews) because it is an effective way to get something out of someone else—like attentiveness from that person or a ā€œpassā€ on the rules in some context. So its possible that you may be asking for special treatment without realizing it.

Or perhaps you aren’t doing that at all, but he is so sensitized to that sort of plea that he immediately feels as if you are trying to impose on him. Ive had my issues with depression. I used to want to talk about it all the time but people are weird about it often.

There is a sort of egocentric indulgence to it and therapists tend to encourage the behavior of ā€œunburdeningā€ yourself as cathartic. I dont really think it is anymore. It can cause you to become a bit of a sad sac navel gazer if you know what I mean. Whites tend to value more stoic suffering whereas jews tend to cash in on their emotional angst— so I try to do less of it nowadays.

We all really need encouragement and validation to help us through our struggles. Some of us melancholy types might look for it a bit more than others. Its not always bad. But others don’t always know what we need. They think —
What does this guy want from me? Why is he trying to depress me? He is not shoving his sad feels down like me, he is indulging in them— no wonder he is depressed.
Many cannot relate or empathize at all. I tried to get family members to understand me. They never will. Many people will never understand. Others are so overwhelmed with their own negativity they just can’t cope with yours.

Try to have some understanding for your friend who clearly has limitations in the compassion area. We are all struggling and stress these days.

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 22:57:13 ago (+0/-0)

Also I think that talking about your ailments or hardships may be a passive plea for sympathy or some other ask.

Nope. Specifically said in the very first message I mentioned it that there was a trend back when where people would throw a pity party or give me overly emotional sympathy , which was not what I was looking for because it didn't solve the problem and I was specifically looking for solutions.

He's rich af and has done pretty much everything one could ask for in life.

Thanks for the insights. Good to know other people are thinking the same things

[ - ] 2017Fallout 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 02:10:23 ago (+0/-0)

Well put

[ - ] Sleazy 2 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 22:32:49 ago (+2/-0)

it is all because the things that annoy you in others actually are the things that annoy you about yourself and seeing them do it only reminds you that you do that too and you know it is annoying

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 23:06:59 ago (+0/-0)

Wait, so who's annoyed with what?

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 13:29:03 ago (+0/-0)

Me for one. Tired of pussy-ass excuse making faggots.

[ - ] usedoilanalysis 1 point 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 05:18:29 ago (+1/-0)

Most of the time, when you're depressed, you eat shit and don't do shit. The result is you feel like shit. You pair your environment with your depression. After a few months you Pavlovian conditioned yourself to be a sad sack of shit.

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 15:21:31 ago (+0/-0)

Pretty much the answer right there.

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 19:43:52 ago (+0/-0)

What the fuck does this have to do with what I posted? Why are there so many people reading the post like this? I didn't write anything that should have generated these kinds of responses.

Blocking people for poor literacy skills

[ - ] ThisGuy 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 7, 2022 04:24:56 ago (+0/-0)

With buddies like that...

[ - ] FlatPlaneReality 1 point 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 03:18:12 ago (+1/-0)

This is called Cognitive dissonance. The guy claims he never had time to feel sorry or get depressed but his attitude towards depression says otherwise. Depression isn't limited to first world countries. Plenty of suicidal, depressed people in 3rd world shitholes.

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 1 point 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 19:45:19 ago (+1/-0)

but his attitude towards depression says otherwise.

Can you unpack this?

[ - ] FlatPlaneReality 2 points 2.7 yearsSep 7, 2022 03:03:37 ago (+2/-0)

Ahh I'll give it a go.

Maybe you had it too good

To me, this indicates jealousy. Anything other than sleeping under a bridge like a homeless hobo is considered "too good" for this man. A coping mechanism of sorts.

But now you're a man and you gotta pull your own head out of your ass!

He is blinded by his own anger to realize that OP is no longer depressed, nor has been for a long time.

If you take more joo psychotropic drugs even 1 more time

Ahh here it is, he conflates depression with jew psychotropic drugs. I'm guessing someone close in his family had bad experience with depression and an even worse experience with the kike drugs to fix it.

Not everybody takes drugs to cope with depression.

You might as well get double jabbed and boosted too with the joo juice.

This is because he is again linking depression with psychotropic drug use, which is a false assumption.

I've been there, got over it, no medical industry or kike drugs required. A change of environment can go a very long way with depression. In fact, there are some mice/rat experiments done that suggests that environment is the leading cause of many societal problems including depression and habitual drug use.


[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 7, 2022 20:30:26 ago (+0/-0)

Interesting. I'll look into some of this.

I looked up the prozac stuff he was referring to and I couldn't find much other than dinner increased suicide rates

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 13:31:59 ago (+0/-0)

You're friend was telling you the hard truth you needed to hear. Stop being a little bitch.

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 19:28:24 ago (+0/-0)

Needed to hear

And why did I need to hear that?

[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 07:19:04 ago (+0/-0)

Nobody wants to be brought down with depressing topics. Talk about Khazar milkers instead.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 00:38:09 ago (+0/-0)*

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[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 02:17:43 ago (+0/-0)

Oh, he's talking like that because he's very successful now. He definitely has a few 100k$ and might be on his way to being a millionaire if he isn't already.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 08:45:31 ago (+1/-0)*

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[ - ] FlatPlaneReality 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 03:19:55 ago (+0/-0)

Hold up a minute there, chief, you dropped out of school because you're a fucking idiot.

If you think school is anything but a kike propaganda machine then it is you who is the fucking idiot.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 08:44:47 ago (+0/-0)*

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[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 20:18:12 ago (+0/-0)

Which generation?

[ - ] GeneralDisarray 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 00:27:49 ago (+0/-0)

Because when pedophiles and psychopaths run everything they make sure to program everyone to attack victims of abuse, people that hate the madhouse they live in and anyone that speaks the truth!

Your buddy is a fucking NPC and can't be trusted.

Empathy is taboo in a world run by psychopaths. This brainwashed ass has lost his humanity in trying to fit into the sick world he lives in.

Being well adjusted to an insane and evil world is no measure of sanity. He isn't honest enough with himself to be depressed. That's the truth.

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 1 point 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 02:21:32 ago (+1/-0)

Man, you might be onto something. He was saying a bunch of stuff like he was going to cheat on his gf now (and before he was completely against that) and many other things that he wasn't saying two years ago when he was a more moral person.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 22:35:53 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 22:58:57 ago (+0/-0)

It does sound like he's taking a jab at me personally, but even so, he usually is a good influence. This case is a bit of an exception because I had to inform him that depression isn't a damn choice. I've heard someone else say depression is a choice before too, which tells me they've never been depressed before therefore opinion discarded

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 23:45:13 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 20:15:54 ago (+0/-0)

Congrats on escaping the clutches of depression. Anyone who does is an absolute warrior.

Thanks. It's unbelievable that I survived. I can't say they it made me stronger though. I'm just out of the rut. I do think having recovered from depression should be studied. Honestly, I know for a fact it was the degenerate culture I was swimming in with no way to escape. But let's not go there

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 23:02:07 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 7, 2022 20:34:19 ago (+0/-0)

Right on

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts -1 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 13:27:39 ago (+0/-1)

Cause it's bullshit lazy people pull to guilt others into carrying them.

Man the fuck up and stop consuming garbage that makes you feel like shit.

Clinical depression is fake and gay and the idea itself exists as some kind of "official" excuse to be a fucking pussy.

Fucking be sad when sad shit happens but do your fucking duties anyway.

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 19:31:40 ago (+0/-0)

Cause it's bullshit lazy people pull to guilt others into carrying them.

Man the fuck up and stop consuming garbage that makes you feel like shit.

Why the fuck did no one reason my goddamn post?

You all have misunderstood the post or read something another faggot wrote and pretended to understand it the same.

Your comment is ignored for being a retard. And you're blocked so I don't have to read anymore thoughts that come out of your stupid brain.

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 7, 2022 10:54:43 ago (+0/-0)

Hey dumbfuck. You asked "why does talking about a past depression cause some people to vehemently angry towards the once-depressed person?"

I answered "Cause it's bullshit lazy people pull to guilt others into carrying them."

That's fucking why people don't want to hear about your faggoty bullshit feelings, because GENERALLY it's bullshit lazy people pull to guilt others into carrying them." and people are sick of it.

So when the time comes that it's just mentioned "in passing" (which why the fuck would you bring it it unless you're laying groundwork for being a little bitch) they are already sick of any talk of that kind because the obvious shit I already said multiple times.

[ - ] ThisGuy 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 7, 2022 04:28:25 ago (+0/-0)

Tell me you didn't read his post without telling me you didn't read his post. Angry little man.

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 7, 2022 10:51:21 ago (+0/-0)

"Tell me you didn't without telling me you didn't?"

Fuck off back to reddit faggot

[ - ] ThisGuy 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 7, 2022 10:57:03 ago (+0/-0)

No u. Tiny angry "man".

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 7, 2022 11:13:40 ago (+0/-0)

No u. Tiny angry "man".

I'm not the one whining about my feeling on the internet.

[ - ] Nosferatjew -2 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 23:30:16 ago (+0/-2)

No one wants to listen to you talk about your emotional problems.

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 5, 2022 23:37:08 ago (+0/-0)

It was a single message in passing. Read other comments here for context.

You're off the mark.

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 2.7 yearsSep 6, 2022 13:31:04 ago (+0/-0)

As men no one cares about our emotional struggles AT FUCKING ALL.

And that good cause when people DO take them seriously we act like whiney fucking bitches all up our own asses about our lack of self-actualization in mazlow's hierarchy or the dumb bitch who broke our hearts 5 years ago.