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Liberal tree-hugger shares just how horrendous the tree-hugging electic cars are on a road trip.

submitted by totes_magotes to whatever 2.8 yearsSep 5, 2022 20:21:42 ago (+27/-2)     (www.wsj.com)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-rented-an-electric-car-for-a-four-day-road-trip-i-spent-more-time-charging-it-than-i-did-sleeping-11654268401



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[ - ] bobdole9 6 points 2.8 yearsSep 5, 2022 21:20:06 ago (+6/-0)

Spent six days driving from LA to Detroit and back. 5,000 miles total. Not possible to go 1,000 miles in a day (14-16 hours driving) using batteries. Until electric is as fast and efficient to resupply as internal combustion (which will never happen) and as widely available as gas, stupid people are just buying expensive Power Wheels. Hydrogen is likely the only renewable that will be widely available and easy like gas...shame auto manufacturers are wasting time on batteries.

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 1 point 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 04:47:19 ago (+1/-0)

the reality is that hydrogen engines don't need much r&d, all of the progress in that area is outside the purview of auto makers. they are paying lip service to ESG bullshit and realizing that hybrid cars are the model that will win out - it makes a ton of sense to have a good battery for local/short trips along with a proper engine. if you read trade press and development news you'll see that hydrogen is very much discussed and planned for in the higher levels of govt/industry around the world. it's seen as something that will be a real factor in the 2030's. hydrogen is a store of energy, like a battery, just with fewer downsides. both lose power efficiency versus petrol but supply chain advantages for hydrogen along with efficiency improvements can make that acceptable. most hydrogen is produced from natural gas. 15 years form now your new car will probably be a hydrogen/electric hybrid.

[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 05:07:08 ago (+0/-0)

By 2030, big tech is going to consume 40% of the world's energy.

The energy crisis is one big tech is making on their own. We are subsidizing the tech giant's, enormous energy bill. That is the real source of inflation.

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 1 point 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 06:15:23 ago (+1/-0)

There is no energy crisis and there won't be. There is a management crisis in the Western world, but that'll resolve it self in the way these things usually do.

[ - ] usedoilanalysis 1 point 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 06:36:42 ago (+1/-0)

We are subsidizing the tech giant's, enormous energy bill. That is the real source of inflation.

[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 08:53:21 ago (+0/-0)

Hydrogen makes sense...its the most abundant element in the atmosphere and 2/3rds of all water. Its infuriating how dense people are who somehow think a big battery is somehow greener than burning gas. Must be nice to think these precious metals appeared from thin air and the batteries are 100% completely recyclable.

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 03:29:56 ago (+1/-1)

battery swap would work

[ - ] _Obrez 1 point 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 06:34:59 ago (+1/-0)

The current massive flat packs arent going to be simple to exchange enough for this to be a successful and economical endeavor like a gas station.

[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 08:58:58 ago (+0/-0)

Currently Chevrolet Bolt EVs are getting many of their batteries replaced due to a manufacturer defect. The batteries built are designed for specific VINs, so at best one battery may actually work for 10-20 of the thousands of Bolt cars across the country.

Each battery is 250 pounds and come in a crate the size of the actual car. It takes a certified trained technician at least six hours to replace. Then it needs to charge fully, which can take another six hours.

Idea of replacing batteries would be nice, but the technology is not there. Its more like cell phone chargers in the 90s and early 2000s; each manufacturer has their own proprietary design and even within the same design there are variances between batteries.

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 18:27:09 ago (+0/-0)

If they made them where they could be fast swapped at a swap station. You know design that in to them. Have these places with thousand batteries charging and workers to swap them in minutes

[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 05:03:49 ago (+0/-0)

Storage is an issue.

[ - ] jigganiggaboo 2 points 2.8 yearsSep 5, 2022 23:51:20 ago (+2/-0)

that was a very eye roll inducing cringe-fest of a documentary. I don't know how they want to get everyone to drive these fire hazards without a serious overhaul on the power grid

[ - ] boekanier 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 00:19:52 ago (+0/-0)

liberals solve the problems (which they themselves cause) first when they arise

[ - ] usedoilanalysis 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 05:08:40 ago (+0/-0)

Bullshit, women aka liberals, need a toxic masculine male to solve their problems. As much as they want you to believe the contrary.

[ - ] MichaelStewart 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 01:20:23 ago (+0/-0)

I thought it was supposed to be a comedy troupe, not a documentary.

[ - ] jigganiggaboo 1 point 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 01:25:49 ago (+1/-0)

Satire is now our reality

[ - ] Boardallday3 1 point 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 01:20:41 ago (+1/-0)

This is a long but revealing video about how shitty $100k Teslas are for driving outside of your city limits, especially in the U.S.

https://youtu.be/_naDg-guomA

Also in some European countries now it costs MORE for electricity to charge these things than it does to buy gas for an actual car, even with high gas prices.

[ - ] SmokeyMeadow 1 point 2.8 yearsSep 5, 2022 23:35:04 ago (+1/-0)

She's only slightly less retarded than the Rivian employee who tried to tow a car 1500 miles with his EV pickup. He had to stop every hundred miles along the way. The subtext of this article is that the author wants more fast chargers built. Wait until people like her realize fast charging ruins the battery.

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 2 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 04:49:19 ago (+2/-0)

even funnier if they tried this during cold weather hahahaha. fully electric cars are impractical outside of certain urban uses and most cars will be hybrids combining those functions. the idea that all cars will be fully electric is stupid and false.

[ - ] SmokeyMeadow 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 11:27:42 ago (+0/-0)

And of course this is all stuff we've been warning them about for years. Look how these idiots have to plan their lives around charging the stupid car. None of them can conceive of a situation where they might need to go somewhere in a hurry. It must be infuriating to socialize with them and have to plan dinner arrangements and activities around where they can plug their car in.

[ - ] ymihere 1 point 2.8 yearsSep 5, 2022 22:28:08 ago (+1/-0)

[ - ] MichaelStewart 1 point 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 01:21:51 ago (+1/-0)

Stop, stop, I can't laugh any harder!!

[ - ] Boardallday3 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 01:23:00 ago (+0/-0)

Haha that's awesome

[ - ] boekanier 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 08:08:52 ago (+0/-0)

tree-huggers in cars is weird and certainly not environmental-friendly, they should use the lianas from the trees to move about. Think of Tarzan.

[ - ] drhitler 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 04:56:18 ago (+0/-0)

“You remember when the microwave came out? Or DVD players?” says Dennis Boatwright, a 58-year-old tree surgeon. “When you first get them the prices were real high, but the older they are, the cheaper they get.”

Except batteries are not electronics, they are not going to get smaller and use less materials, the challenge is not even in making them its the sheer raw materials they require.

[ - ] knije_tahou 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 00:37:42 ago (+0/-0)

They don't care if they are equal to gas vehicles. They don't care if we can't drive as far. People keep acting like the government will allow the choice. They don't give a shit.

[ - ] Boardallday3 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 01:22:22 ago (+0/-0)

Let them try to ban cars.

[ - ] knije_tahou 1 point 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 09:07:59 ago (+1/-0)

They keep banning guns a little at a time and jack shit is done. It's going to have to get really bad before there is finally some actual push back. As long as people like the trumptards keep thinking there's a political solution nothing will happen. We as a race are far too patient.

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 6, 2022 00:34:21 ago (+0/-0)

I want to twirl a 220v cord in front of those two little hippy girls and trade power for sex. Dirty dirty sex. And they'll do it.

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 5, 2022 20:59:32 ago (+2/-2)

Half of car buyers are severely mentally challenged

[ - ] Clubberlang 4 points 2.8 yearsSep 5, 2022 21:38:43 ago (+4/-0)

I heard they lack motor skills

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 5, 2022 21:39:18 ago (+0/-0)

You heard right

[ - ] Diggernicks56 0 points 2.8 yearsSep 5, 2022 21:47:06 ago (+0/-0)

So did I