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[ - ] WhiteCollarCriminal 8 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 00:15:09 ago (+8/-0)

I'm sorry but I'm a bit confused. I understood it was an African Americoon sheboon who did all the maff for the moon landings?

[ - ] Thought_Criminal [op] 4 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 00:23:09 ago (+4/-0)

Historical revisionism leads to lost knowledge and fucking chaos.
This picture might convince many on this site that humans could have flown to the moon and back.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 3 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 01:29:50 ago (+3/-0)

I'm sure the Nazis at NASA have been far beyond the moon, but they don't want the jews to know.

[ - ] HughBriss 2 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 11:21:19 ago (+4/-2)

It is impossible for humans to travel to the moon. The intense radiation penetrates everything, and the Van Allen belts are lethal. NASA knows this.

[ - ] observation1 2 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 14:27:18 ago (+2/-0)

What's your response to radiation suits used on power plants? Nuclear power is fake and ghey?

[ - ] HughBriss 1 point 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 14:48:27 ago (+1/-0)

It seems like NASA should have taken that precaution, but we see in their own photos and video that they didn't. The radiation isn't just nuclear radiation, it's also cosmic rays, which has other potentially lethal radiological spectra in it. NASA has been working on that problem for decades and still don't have a solution for it.

The most desirable solution would be passive protection, i.e., shielding on the craft, but there are problems associated with that. Active protection, i.e., custom suits, are still in development. From wikijewdia:

"Apart from passive and active radiation shielding methods, which focus on protecting the spacecraft from harmful space radiation, there has been much interest in designing personalized radiation protective suits for astronauts. The reason behind choosing such methods of radiation shielding is that in passive shielding, adding a certain thickness to the spacecraft can increase the mass of the spacecraft by several thousands of kilograms. This mass can surpass the launch constraints and costs several millions of dollars. On the other hand, active radiation shielding methods is an emerging technology which is still far away in terms of testing and implementation."

So, in other words, they don't have it now and didn't have it in 1969.

Source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_threat_from_cosmic_rays

[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 15:25:31 ago (+0/-0)

I see. So your response is to substitute in a requirement that active technology must be used and this changing of requirements allows you to make the claim that "it doesn't exist."

If I sent you pictures to passive radiation suits such as this

https://i.imgur.com/rkT1Y5D.png

Is it your duty now to disregard the weight so it fits into your thesis?

[ - ] HughBriss 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 19:32:46 ago (+0/-0)

I see. So your reply is to read a great deal into what I wrote and ignore what I actually did write.

1) They couldn't use passive protection because it would have added weight to the craft that probably would have made it impossible to get past the gravity well.

2) If they had active protection that worked in 1969, they wouldn't be looking for active radiation shielding methods today. They would use what worked more than 50 years ago.

3) Since they're not using what worked for the Apollo missions, and this new technology is "emerging" and "still far away in terms of testing and implementation", we can only conclude that, in YOUR words, "it doesn't exist". Your words, not mine.

There are many different forms of radiation in space. The spectra of radiation from uranium and plutonium are also in space, along with many others. They all have to shielded against for humans to transcend the Van Allen belts.

A radiation suit such as the one you linked to is only for short term exposure. Power plants and refineries limit the amount of time their workers spend exposed to radiation by having them wear exposure sensors that measure the time they're around it. After a certain point, which is the level of Roentgens of radiation they've exposed to, they can't work around radiological material any longer because this radiation accumulates.

Any human going through the Van Allen belts, through space to the moon, spending three days on the moon, and then traveling through the Van Allen belts again would accumulate a potential lethal dose of multiple forms of radiation. As I just explained, they didn't have the technology to protect humans through this journey.

I don't know why you're being so antagonistic. We could just discuss this without the sarcasm.

[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 22:30:00 ago (+0/-0)*

Let me see if I can reel the sarcasm back.

I'll draw an analogy: Suppose David Copperfield, the magician, was going to do a magic trick. He is going to do something so big and grandiose like make the Statue of Liberty disappear. (It's simple times where people are easily fooled but you know better.) It takes him months to set up for his great magic trick. He has cameras and smoke and mirrors and everything you would need to set up the illusion.

After its done, everyone is convinced he made the Statue of Liberty disappear and reappear... except for you. You're too clever to be tricked by this illusion. And you tell the others: "hey this is just a trick." But they don't believe you. Some consider you might be right but then they ask you for evidence.

The really bizarre thing I find about antimooners is they insist on using David Copperfields own smoke to weigh evidence against the illusion. Why would they do that? Out of all the possible conflicts to bring up - its the Van Allen Belt that the antimooners land on. Why? These radiation belts were, afterall, discovered by the Russian sputniks, and later confirmed in more detail by the Americans using Von Braun weather balloons and rockets. The entire shape of the belt(s), size of the belt(s), intensity of the radiation from the belts -- all of which are NASA figures that were learned during the space race and cold war, and leading up toward the apollo missions. They detail an apollo flight path that avoided the areas with the highest radiation flux, and employed radiation-protection planning.

So, David Copperfield is a nice guy. He decides to let you in on a secret and tell you how he performed his trick. You ask him, "Hey David- how the heck did you pull that trick off? Returning the statue of liberty back into view would have required at least 3 hours when everyone knows smoke only burns for 4 minutes." And he kindly let's you in on his secret: "Sir, I don't actually need 3 hours. I've found a way to do it in 1 hour! Also, I have invented a smoke that actually lasts over an hour! Pretty cool, right?"

Instead of believing David Copperfield, afterall, he is a tricky guy - you automatically say he is a liar.

And to doubters asking you for evidence, you explain Copperfield is lying about the smoke, insisting your version of the model is the correct one.

"What a liar he is" you think to yourself in disgust. "Everyone knows smoke can only last 5 minutes at most. There is no smoke that can last an hour like Copperfield will have you believe, and that trick takes 3 hours, minimum. And I am the authority on the subject of moving gigantic statues."

A passerbyer says to you: "Sir, why are you fretting? I recorded David Copperfields feat. Indeed it only took an hour for the statue of liberty to return after it had disappeared. One hour, sir. Look at the footage. I even have a recording of it."

"No," you say. "Footage? You know you can't believe that. Copperfield was the one who allowed you that footage. You must be reading a great deal into what I am doing. You see, he is a trickster and you absolutely must not rely on footage he allows you to see."

And the passerbyer says to you "but you rely on the smoke -- isn't the smoke his, too?"

And you respond "stop antagonizing me with your sarcasm. Those were YOUR words, not mine."

And so it is. David Copperfield gets away with the illusion... or so the critics imagine this is the way it is.

[ - ] HughBriss 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 5, 2022 11:42:05 ago (+0/-0)

I literally have no idea what you're talking about. I replied using actual information on the current technology. You respond with a baffling analogy.

By the way, what is an "antimooner"?

And if you're going to quote me, please get it correct. I said " I don't know why you're being so antagonistic. We could just discuss this without the sarcasm."

[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 5, 2022 14:37:30 ago (+0/-0)

Parable aims to plants a seed. Someday in the future, when it won't be so baffling.

Antimooners, I'll call them, don't get to redefine a magicians tools for their own use. To do so makes them guilty of precisely the thing they accuse the magician of.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 22:43:34 ago (+0/-0)

Thank u for some truth

[ - ] 3Whuurs -1 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 01:23:07 ago (+0/-1)

So you believe in the Holocaust? Lol

[ - ] asdf454 1 point 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 14:09:26 ago (+2/-1)

I mentioned the chemical evidence of thermate in the twin towers to a joo once. And this was his exact response. So you don't believe in the Holocaust? And I was like what??? How is the Holocaust and 9/11 related. Then joo said well because I (asdf454) believe that joos did 9/11, I replied with: "I don't know who did it, I would summarize that definitely Larry Silverstein did it though." joo said that proves it, he's a joo! I said, "How do you know this guy's a joo?"

I didn't know that the last name was an indication and I thought that religion wasn't part of the discussion.

What's happening is that joos are jumping ahead in the conversation to "win" the argument.

Anyway... based on al of that I would suggest that 3Whuurs here is a faggot joo.

[ - ] 3Whuurs 1 point 1.6 yearsSep 5, 2022 12:48:36 ago (+1/-0)

Lmfao. Jesus you should stay off the internet when you’re on your period.

He stated a general principle about revisionism and I gave him an example that applied directly to it with no shiftiness whatsoever.

Your entire 911 circle jerk with a Jew doesn’t apply to my question in any way lol.
Grow the fuck up or get off the site faggot.

[ - ] 3Whuurs -1 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 01:25:20 ago (+0/-1)

Apparently the jew Jack Blacks mother is credited with solving all the real maths the goy couldn’t.

[ - ] observation1 7 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 00:26:22 ago (+7/-0)

I've been inside nuclear power plants. They look precisely like this.

[ - ] Name 1 point 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 22:56:31 ago (+1/-0)

The rail cars that roll out from these places to other places don’t look quite so proper but are incredibly huwite. The workers that despise their jobs but do it and do it well are all huwite.

[ - ] deleted 4 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 06:43:19 ago (+7/-3)*

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[ - ] asdf454 2 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 14:03:04 ago (+2/-0)

I noticed that it's taking 5 times longer this trip. Last time was 8 days total, only 3 days to travel to the moon. Perhaps the moon is a lot further away than in was 50 years ago.

[ - ] observation1 1 point 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 14:18:53 ago (+1/-0)*

Is the moon a stationary object in the sky? I've been on flights overseas that take 16 hours and others that take 21 hours, and thats with both probably traveling near the same speed. Geographical location matters a lot.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 22:44:34 ago (+0/-0)

Thanks for more truth

[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 5, 2022 02:57:05 ago (+0/-0)*

Here's truth you might be thankful for:

- NASA overestimated the level of danger in the low and medium orbits and overbuilt what they later figured to be an overly protected spacecraft.

Why?

-One CT scan in a hospital setting delivers about 1.0 rem.

- To kill an adult human, you’d have to deliver 300 rem or more in a short span of time. If that amount was spread over weeks or even days, there will be few effects.

- About 50 rem delivered at once will cause radiation sickness.

So what about Buzz , Neil and Colins?

- The Apollo 11 crew had received 0.18 rem each on average because of the strategic flight path initially though the low/ medium orbits then quickly though the weaker parts of the van allen belts. They also employed shielding on the ship hull, shielding on the instruments and shielding on the pilot suits.

- 0.18 rem is about the equivalent of 2 chest x-rays.

[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 5, 2022 14:41:07 ago (+0/-0)

You’re calling me an idiot for all that stuff about the control room and then claiming they used all kinds of shielding to protect the astronauts. Ha! Do you even have any idea how much shielding would be needed and what kind to be used? Not without looking it up so don’t lie to me. The manned capsules of the Apollo missions would have never left the ground due to all of shielding requirements need to pass through space. It would have been to heavy. One day you are going to have to finally come to terms with the fact that nobody went to the moon. Like I said in the other comment that was the actual point of the comment, what was going on that was so important in that picture? If something critical was happening that demanded everyone’s attention, why did everyone in that room have their backs turned to what they should have been monitoring? Wouldn’t that be more important?

[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 5, 2022 15:31:35 ago (+0/-0)

due to all of shielding requirements need to pass through space.

Meanehile, you pretend to imagine you know how much shielding is required.

what was going on that was so important in that picture?

I take it you've never been a photographer. Imagine not being able to find a moment of the team being enamored by images of the space flight to the moon over the course of many days.

If the photographer directed them to look interesting for the camera, should that not be an expected request?

Your head aught to be examined.

[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 5, 2022 17:53:21 ago (+0/-0)

I have years of experience working in a nuclear power plant so I know what the fuck I’m talking about. For once you have found a person who speaks on a few topics that they are extremely knowledgeable about. Quit trying to argue these topics with me. You won’t win.

[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 5, 2022 18:18:00 ago (+0/-0)

Ha! You've lost before you've begun.

You could be a tenured truck driver and wouldn't know a thing about the dangers of a road youve never traveled.

I am certain all your years of power plants, for example, has taught you about about how many rads must be attenuated with a flight path you are unfamiliar, through skies you've never measured, using material you've never touched.

Your observational skills are dull, and probably cannot be sharpened.

[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 5, 2022 18:19:37 ago (+0/-0)

Ok, pal.

[ - ] deleted 3 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 04:25:37 ago (+6/-3)

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[ - ] chrimony 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 08:47:24 ago (+3/-3)

Says the pedo kike shitting on White man's greatest achievement.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 13:48:10 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] bobdole9 2 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 09:58:40 ago (+2/-0)

Never knew ties were so important!

[ - ] Thought_Criminal [op] 2 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 10:45:32 ago (+2/-0)

Skinny ties, specifically.

[ - ] pickingrinninspittin 2 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 09:36:34 ago (+2/-0)

CIS White Men check

[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 5, 2022 16:40:36 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] jquuery 1 point 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 11:15:32 ago (+1/-0)

There was a picture a few years ago where it showed the "girl power diversity" of nasa as a photo op. The room had to smell like yeast and fermented fish.

This is the end result of that decision. We are seeing more and more of this as companies and insinuations wonder why women and "diverse" people don't bring success. This is the part where the kool aid kills everyone.

[ - ] observation1 1 point 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 01:02:47 ago (+1/-0)*

Not sure if trolling or not but black and white 60s film has a way of looking fake.

Take a look at this 1968 harrier jet taking off vertically

Fast forward to 0:56 seconds

It looks like a low budget movie where the FX guy used a model airplane on a string.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 09:14:07 ago (+3/-1)

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[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 13:23:17 ago (+0/-0)

muh van allen belt

How is it possible to be this stupid? Do antimooners forgot to put clothes on when they go outside their house? Do they forget to take their clothes off when they shower? Do antimooners go fishing at the lake on holiday-weekends but then always forget to bring their fishing pole? Why, then, would nasa forget to protect the film?

I love when antimooners speak up and perfectly demonstrate to other antimooners the level of critical thinking they are in class with.

[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 01:09:57 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 01:10:43 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] 3Whuurs 1 point 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 01:13:22 ago (+1/-0)

That one worked

[ - ] observation1 2 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 01:31:39 ago (+2/-0)

Its like Jim Henson just called and wants his puppet strings back.

But seriously. In another 40 years of VR reality - everyone will be a moon denier.

We aren't conditioned to see 60s film.

[ - ] Thought_Criminal [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 02:53:48 ago (+0/-0)

Black?

[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 03:05:16 ago (+0/-0)

"black-and-white film"

[ - ] Thought_Criminal [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 09:16:04 ago (+0/-0)

Harriers make a sound like WHOOOSH

[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 13:30:34 ago (+0/-0)*

The black math savant programming a space shuttle and finding bugs is probably part parable. But- do you ever accidentally over-char one tiny corner of your toast, but then decide to throw away the entire slice? Did your mom toss the baby out with the bathwater?

If one gets caught cheating in a casino does the casino cease to exist?

[ - ] shitface9000 -1 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 12:58:45 ago (+1/-2)

There was no moon landing

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 11:31:44 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah the genius Germans from the third Reich brought over in operation paper clip were the ones who mad with happen. And as soon as they began to die off, so did space exploration.

Aliens are gay guys

[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 10:40:18 ago (+1/-1)

This just came to me. What systems did each one of those monitoring stations monitor? Why were there so many monitoring stations? How much instrumentation and control equipment was on the spacecraft that could be operated by the crew or the people on the ground? How much weight would all of that add?

Specific to the picture, what’s going on that’s so important that all hands are on deck but not one person is monitoring their panel?

[ - ] observation1 -1 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 13:56:36 ago (+0/-1)*

Have you seen the cockpit of an airplane? A modern pilot wonders the opposite. " Why were there so few monitoring stations?"

https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/NASA-Consoles-640x631.png

[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 17:41:45 ago (+0/-0)

I fly airplanes, so yeah. Sometimes airplanes have too much information which can be dangerous. Alarms and information can be distracting and deadly. Airliners have crashed because of these things.

Fuck you. You’re a dumb fuck.

[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 21:30:07 ago (+0/-0)

Hence with apollo many people manned each station, as opposed to one or 2 doing everything, shit-for-brains.

Do everyone a favor, take your pilots license, and fly into the giant ice wall at the edge of the planet.

[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 4, 2022 23:56:43 ago (+0/-0)

You’re a stupid fuck who can’t comprehend what my initial comment was. Go get skull fucked by a nigger with genital warts.

[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.6 yearsSep 5, 2022 00:37:47 ago (+0/-0)*

Your initial comment? You hypothesized that the number of monitoring systems, whose purpose you were too lazy to look up, demonstrated the apollo shuttle would have weighed too much to perform the mission.

I, therefore, comprehend that you have shit for brains.

Funny how when anyone cataloges your sheer stupidity it causes you to lash out like a 10 year old.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior -1 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 22:42:46 ago (+0/-1)

We didn't go to the moon retards

[ - ] deleted -1 points 1.7 yearsSep 4, 2022 09:12:22 ago (+0/-1)

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