Everyone needs to treat these visits as hostile intrusions of our rights. They think they are the only ones who can employ scare tactics, they're wrong. They're currently trying to single people out, there's a reason for that. Don't let these limp wristed faggots try to intimidate you, they're only doing this because they're fucking afraid.
Some people don't mind making a point even at an extreme cost. It doesn't have to be everyone. If every time the ATF personnel leave to confiscate someone's guns, they knew that there was a not so insignificant chance that they would be dead at the end of the day, they might think twice about it. What if one in every 150 people that meet the ATF in this situation defended themselves to the bitter end? How many of these instances would it take for these people to realize that there are enough others that are willing to defend themselves from the feds that they can collectively force their hand? There's a very non-linear tipping point somewhere in that equation, and the powers that be know it. They are vastly outnumbered though.
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.
Well, that also presumes that they didn't show him their IDs or he has no way of finding out who they are. If the government was dumb enough to send goons to confiscate guns (they won't, they'll just use bureaucracy to limit your ability to participate in society via banking, taxes, etc. - like what China does with the social credit system), there'd be more than a few people willing to take some of them out at a time and place of their choosing.
It makes sense to use a car oil filter. They're cheap, and you can shoot cleaning solvents into the barrel without having all sorts of oil everywhere. Then set the filter back on the shelf for next time.
That ATF bulletin was an interesting read. You can have oil filters, fuel filters, even flashlights: legal. Have a hole in the end of them or have them attached to a gun: illegal. If the intention is to use it as a silencer, they can get ya.
I had a thought. What if these 87,000 IRS agents -- specifically hired to be trained and prepared to use lethal force -- are being amassed to be requested during an emergency declaration to aid the ATF in door-to-door confiscations? I mean, I'm sure I've heard of occasions where one agency can request assistance from another when lacking the manpower or resources needed.
And it would be the perfect way to build up the army needed in preparation for action without alerting the public, since everyone would go right to assuming they were just doubling down on taking more of peoples' hard-earned money instead of a gun grab. It's almost genius.
Good point. Or perhaps an NFA-style tax retroactively applied to all firearms to get the IRS involved. In any case, they want them bad -- far-more-so than usual, which suggests to me they've got something big planned for after mass confiscation.
America is the last wall that needs to be toppled before the true great reset can take place.
But they can't do it unless they condition enough generations to believe they are safer without the ability to protect themselves with a gun and instead let the government take that freedom for security.
Remember: the commies conscripted entire villages' male populations to line them up as meat shields to march against German encampments until one side ran out of ammo or bodies, and these people are reading from the same playbook.
[ - ] Peleg 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 18:27:01 ago (+1/-0)
I could see that happening. Some time back there was a story that I followed for a while, about a guy that the feds paid a visit to. The goons surrounded his house, but then his friends, neighbors, and family surrounded the feds! They backed off and tried a different approach. It was pretty obvious that their plan to begin with was to waco the guy. They probably learned from that one so now they will not be outnumbered and outgunned with a force 87,000 strong.
They have since started using cellular jammers so we’re going to need to have some better emergency coms in place. Ideally you have everything go peacefully and the for some unknown reason the enemy agents just started going missing.
' You "bought a jig" for your AR15 and we therefore know that you're using your solvent trap "as a suppressor," which we are here to confiscate, and if you don't "you'll be on our radar now," to which "I'm sure we'll see you again" "for an NFA item." '
Yea, he should have asked them to elaborate on that "on the radar" comment. Press them on it. He pressed them on being generally out of line with words that could have been prepped ahead of time. But the "radar" comment was out of line with him personally, and probably illegal too. Not just 2a illegal where the courts wipe their asses with the bill of rights but also gaythiest jury with Jewish judge illegal.
If they come to your property and you don't live in a blue shit hole call your local sheriff department. At least in my area they'd be very interested in federal agents tramping on the 2A rights of their county.
That was a lot of low key threats. I wonder how he'd feel if someone showed up at his house and used the same threats? They may find out if they knock on the wrong door.
You people shop at the same grocery stores, your kids go to school with our kids, you attend the same church, you can't hide.
1. Suppressors shouldn't even be NFA items (not counting that the NFA shouldn't even exist)
2. These fucks shouldn't know what this guy has purchased. How did they get that information? Either the company he bought the solvent trap kept records, or the credit card company did. They also claimed that he bought a jig, so they were able to track him across multiple purchases and companies unless it was all in a single transaction. Cutting agencies off from information like this is a more powerful step than having a shootout because the government can't afford to send their agents to everyone who may have something they don't like.
3. Agencies shouldn't be able to make laws or regulations in the manner that they currently do. Who voted that solvent traps are suddenly suppressors? Did the ATF run this by congress?
4. If something is made illegal after you already bought it when it was legal, you should at least be able to get the purchase price back or write off taxes for the same amount (not that I think wage taxes should exist, but w/e)
You live in the panopticon now. The major credit card companies are invested in Israeli AI developers who have sold the former software designed literally to create a model agent based on yours and others purchasing habits. There's nothing these agencies cannot get currently from third party finance.
These faggots deserve everything that's coming to them one day. That is why it wise, if you can to have a gate on your driveway with no trespassing signs. Fucking pieces of shit.
Don't ever open the door to ZOG. Invest in a camera and speaker. Then you can talk to them through that. No point in even talking to them. Anything you say will be used against you.
A long, sealed tube that screws onto the end of a barrel for making cleaning your gun less of a mess. Baffles can be added and a hole drilled at the end, converting it into a suppressor.
In Texas, you can now buy a suppressor if it was made in Texas, and not pay a 200 dollar tax to the Feds. The Feds were saying we can’t do that, but the law passed anyway last September and the Feds have been seething about it.
They’re going to start fucking with Texans soon, now that they’ve got their little baby bird dicks stiff about suppressors.
The demeanor of these agents leads me to believe they believe you believe they're all powerful and you must obey their commands; but if people fight back bit by bit, it will send SHOCKWAVES through the cuck community that danger is awaiting them
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[ - ] NeonGreen 30 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 13:34:17 ago (+30/-0)
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[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 20 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 13:31:51 ago (+20/-0)
Everyone needs to treat these visits as hostile intrusions of our rights. They think they are the only ones who can employ scare tactics, they're wrong. They're currently trying to single people out, there's a reason for that. Don't let these limp wristed faggots try to intimidate you, they're only doing this because they're fucking afraid.
[ + ] FellowWhite
[ - ] FellowWhite -2 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 13:59:39 ago (+3/-5)
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[ + ] PotatoWhisperer
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer 12 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 17:34:19 ago (+12/-0)
A lesson to take to heart.
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 19:52:08 ago (+2/-0)
He could have said ya I read alot about the holocaust and how fake that this was. Go back to serving your international masters
[ + ] Fascinus
[ - ] Fascinus 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 19:10:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Fascinus
[ - ] Fascinus 6 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 19:09:45 ago (+6/-0)
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago
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[ - ] VoatGoat 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 16:08:00 ago (+3/-0)
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[ - ] jigganiggaboo 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 21:34:43 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] lord_nougat 10 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 13:15:40 ago (+10/-0)
It must have been extremely hard not just shooting them.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 9 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 14:07:59 ago (+9/-0)*
"Solvent Traps"
https://www.gunowners.com/images/pdf/ATF_Tech_Bulletin_17-02_Solvent_Traps.pdf
"Inline Filters"
https://www.gunowners.com/images/pdf/ATF_Tech_Bulletin_20-01_Inline_Filters.pdf
ATF explaining how to legally make silencers:
https://www.gunowners.com/images/pdf/atf_solvent_trap_classification_letter_1.pdf
https://www.gunowners.com/images/pdf/atf_solvent_trap_classification_letter_2.pdf
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[ - ] Stonkmar 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2022 09:51:03 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] La_Chalupacabra
[ - ] La_Chalupacabra 9 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 13:35:50 ago (+9/-0)*
What if these 87,000 IRS agents -- specifically hired to be trained and prepared to use lethal force -- are being amassed to be requested during an emergency declaration to aid the ATF in door-to-door confiscations?
I mean, I'm sure I've heard of occasions where one agency can request assistance from another when lacking the manpower or resources needed.
And it would be the perfect way to build up the army needed in preparation for action without alerting the public, since everyone would go right to assuming they were just doubling down on taking more of peoples' hard-earned money instead of a gun grab.
It's almost genius.
[ + ] GoldenAgeWhen
[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 4 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 15:18:41 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] La_Chalupacabra
[ - ] La_Chalupacabra 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 15:37:54 ago (+3/-0)
Or perhaps an NFA-style tax retroactively applied to all firearms to get the IRS involved.
In any case, they want them bad -- far-more-so than usual, which suggests to me they've got something big planned for after mass confiscation.
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 22:45:20 ago (+1/-0)
But they can't do it unless they condition enough generations to believe they are safer without the ability to protect themselves with a gun and instead let the government take that freedom for security.
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[ - ] La_Chalupacabra 6 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 15:41:52 ago (+6/-0)
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[ + ] Peleg
[ - ] Peleg 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 18:27:01 ago (+1/-0)
Some time back there was a story that I followed for a while, about a guy that the feds paid a visit to. The goons surrounded his house, but then his friends, neighbors, and family surrounded the feds! They backed off and tried a different approach. It was pretty obvious that their plan to begin with was to waco the guy.
They probably learned from that one so now they will not be outnumbered and outgunned with a force 87,000 strong.
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[ - ] Rawrination 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 20:08:40 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 22:49:41 ago (+0/-0)
Why'd you open it in the 1st place?
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[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2022 01:37:26 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2022 22:35:35 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 7 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 13:34:28 ago (+8/-1)
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[ + ] RMGoetbbels
[ - ] RMGoetbbels 4 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 17:12:25 ago (+4/-0)
You people shop at the same grocery stores, your kids go to school with our kids, you attend the same church, you can't hide.
[ + ] dassar
[ - ] dassar 4 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 16:54:22 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] VoatGoat
[ - ] VoatGoat 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 16:13:19 ago (+3/-0)
1. Suppressors shouldn't even be NFA items (not counting that the NFA shouldn't even exist)
2. These fucks shouldn't know what this guy has purchased. How did they get that information? Either the company he bought the solvent trap kept records, or the credit card company did. They also claimed that he bought a jig, so they were able to track him across multiple purchases and companies unless it was all in a single transaction. Cutting agencies off from information like this is a more powerful step than having a shootout because the government can't afford to send their agents to everyone who may have something they don't like.
3. Agencies shouldn't be able to make laws or regulations in the manner that they currently do. Who voted that solvent traps are suddenly suppressors? Did the ATF run this by congress?
4. If something is made illegal after you already bought it when it was legal, you should at least be able to get the purchase price back or write off taxes for the same amount (not that I think wage taxes should exist, but w/e)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2022 00:38:15 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Shitstartercarter
[ - ] Shitstartercarter 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 15:49:54 ago (+3/-0)
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[ - ] Prairie 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2022 00:22:12 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] heraclitus
[ - ] heraclitus 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 22:22:12 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 19:54:05 ago (+2/-0)
Who are you and what do you want? End it at that.
[ + ] Fascinus
[ - ] Fascinus 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 19:47:27 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Scruffy_Nerfherder
[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 14:10:16 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] La_Chalupacabra
[ - ] La_Chalupacabra 4 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 14:47:51 ago (+4/-0)
Baffles can be added and a hole drilled at the end, converting it into a suppressor.
[ + ] Scruffy_Nerfherder
[ - ] Scruffy_Nerfherder 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2022 10:38:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 19:50:32 ago (+1/-0)
Dudes
Organizing
Gun
Solutions.
I hope the atf runs into a mega Chad that was about to commit suicide and is not so polite. Wait mega chads don't commit suicide you know what I mean
Fuck the atf
[ + ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers
[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 15:37:58 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] ToNigIsToNog
[ - ] ToNigIsToNog 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 20:57:50 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers
[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers -1 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2022 01:05:58 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] PearofAnguishJuniorManager
[ - ] PearofAnguishJuniorManager 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2022 09:54:36 ago (+0/-0)
They’re going to start fucking with Texans soon, now that they’ve got their little baby bird dicks stiff about suppressors.
[ + ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers
[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 30, 2022 01:37:24 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 22:39:18 ago (+0/-0)
Yaaaaasssssssss goy don't inform yourself or concern yourself with our subversion!!! Kvetch! It's for your own goooooooood!
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[ - ] jigganiggaboo 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 20:38:31 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] totes_magotes
[ - ] totes_magotes -2 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 18:07:19 ago (+0/-2)
Just a bunch of half drunk redneck fucks standing around LARPing a wet-dream.