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[ - ] ZeudesJesucifer 7 points 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 11:18:51 ago (+7/-0)*

On a parallel earth in a parallel universe, scientists are developing safe and effective gene editing, jellyfish derived immortality vaccines.

We're in the 'killer vaccine universe.'

[ - ] Hadza 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 17:49:36 ago (+0/-0)

Gene editing bad regardless if it's safe and effective. Especially if paired with growing vats "to ease the burden off women"

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 4 points 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 10:31:12 ago (+4/-0)

meh, it can create an egg that has the same dna as itself, thats not how i imagine my immortality, as its not continuation of mind, but merely of genes...

[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 13:59:47 ago (+3/-0)

Also this doesnt say anything about cell senescence. Cells can only divide so many times and then they reach the hayflick limit because their telomeres burn out. If this process didnt occur, everyone would die of cancer before they got to reproduce. Some species like salamanders have a really high hayflick limit so their cells can multiply a lot longer without breaking down. But I dont think this creature has a really high hayflick limit. I think it will burn out after some period, because the DNA degrades. Its like copying a jpeg too many times.

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 21:04:35 ago (+1/-0)

and again, postwallhelena the only reply that makes sense =)

greetings from Germany..

maybe , everytime a human sins, he looses some telomeres. if humans wee to live true to their destiny, then they would become immortal?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 21:16:23 ago (+1/-0)

Heil to the fatherland. I dont know about the sinning thing. But I do understand a sin to be something like a crime against your genetic group

We probably loose telomeres every time we breath, but we might get around the problem by freezing some of our stem cells at birth. There is a substance that increases telomeres but it would be hard to use without inducing cancer.

Of course we would very quickly run out of room on earth if we became immortal. Id settle for an extra hundred years.

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 21:28:53 ago (+0/-0)

in this galaxy alone, theres more earth-like planets than theres humans on earth.

and...

death is a gift.

This simulation we live in has chosen to erase our memories between periods of existence, because that gives our immortal souls the joy of experiencing things for the first time again and again.

death is a gift!

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 23:29:51 ago (+1/-0)

Im going to open my gift later. Much later. Did you keep the receipt?

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2022 00:24:06 ago (+0/-0)

i am happily anticipating the day of my death, as much as i happily anticipate every day of my life.

NO REFUNDS XD

[ - ] Boardallday3 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 11:08:37 ago (+1/-0)

Also jellyfish are dumb as fuck, still cool lifeforms. Coral and jellyfish and sponges are the same thing. The Cnidarians! C is silent

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnidaria

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 14:03:22 ago (+1/-1)

And in your genes instincts evolve and therefore a memory is encoding in your DNA and passed on.

Your world has been turned upside down. Just now.

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 21:01:45 ago (+1/-0)

my Soul is 16 billion years old.

i existed even before matter existed.

fuck off with your puny worldview.

genes my ass, consciousness has to proliferate.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2022 12:37:12 ago (+1/-0)*

Okay so I think life on earth can be thought of as an information system trying to comprehend the universe, perhaps even simulate it (isnt comprehending a system the same as creating a mental simulation of it? ).
Much information about the universe became encoded in our genomes as a result of trial and error (evolution) but some of it has been gathered through life experience. Humans are the first species to effectively transmit that learned information to each other through language and writing and now through electronic storage . Human society or societies can be thought of as distributed information systems. Societies are somewhat distinct because our genes (processor architecture) and cultures (operating systems) differ (niggers, chinks, jews,whites). The objective of societies, in this information perspective of society, is to understand the universe better but also to become the dominant information model replacing other models. I think white genetic/cultural strategy has been to focus on fidelity of information but other societies have focused on gaining genetic hegemony through cultural disinformation (jews) and aggressive reproductive strategies (niggers). This sort of excessive competition comes at the expense of informational accuracy (bad genes, bad values) .

Anyway, your ginormous worldview statement seemed like a good opportunity for me to drop my ginormous worldview. In a way, we are sort of colony creatures, as the society can be thought of as one mind. But genetics do define that mind, such as the genetics of humans or of neanderthals or the genetics of whites or danish people. As populations hive off and isolate, they can evolve new modes of operation that are unique and that are implemented at least in part genetically.

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2022 13:30:17 ago (+1/-0)

yes, absolutely. our genetic disposition enables us to correctly or uncorrectly decipher all the data given to us to make us undestand the world, and our place in it.

only a being fully capable of understanding/simulating what the world should be like is able to form a society that can live beyond what is possible naturally.

only us whites are capable of building a society that can outlive the existence of our sun. As when it turns too hot in about 350 million years, only a global society led by whites will have the funds and ressources and technologies to prevent the earth from losing its water by overheating.

that is Genetic, as only a society with a high enough median IQ can do that.

it is also a good solution for the fermi paradox, the situation we are in.

it might happen in every civilisation:

one part of the civilisation develops altruism, which is necessary for to be able to build a society that is capable of building an interstellar empire.

But they falsely feel compassion for that part of the society that has not evolved to act altruistic. (like chinx and niGGers and jEws)

so naturally, the good people are overwhelmed by the bad people.

and thats why we dont see any interstellar alien empires, because again and again, the Hitlers of this Galaxy Lost the war, and the Winning aggressive breeders receeded to mudhuts and slavery.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2022 15:24:47 ago (+2/-0)

the fermi paradox

Ah yes the great filter. I think its possible that we dont perceive more advanced civilzations. Perhaps once you get to some stage where you figure everything out, maybe youve grown past the urge to run around the galaxy saying ‘hi’ to every anthill.

But I think the more that we understand about evolution the more we can avoid some of the pitfalll associated with it.

More conservative groups like northern europeans and maybe japanese are highly efficient at information processing and wealth production because they are cooperative and ‘altruistic’: there is lower competition within the tribe, particularly reproductively (monogamy) so there is greater incentive for trust between ‘processing nodes’ ie individuals.

But they falsely feel compassion for that part of the society that has not evolved to act altruistic. (like chinx and niGGers and jEws)

There is a definite trade off or tension between opportunism and trust. A high trust society is more efficient but also ripe fro the plucking by social parasites like jews and groups who have evolved lower levels of cooperativity like niggers and spics. The ‘altruists’ will begin to fail first as they are being exploited. But then the opportunists will fail because opportunists are not self sustaining. Its a predator-prey problem. The wolves will run out of sheep and start to eat each other—then there will be no great benefit to being a je-...er, I mean a wolf either. This is what happened to the highly polygamous warlords of islam, and why islam burnt out.

This process of one population figuring out a new niche to thrive in and a second opportunistic population then figuring a way to exploit the first population must have happened other and over again among humans and in other species. The predator -prey problem will seek equilibrium and barring unforseen factors, will eventually reach it. Overall, life on earth has achieved greater complexity over time and better information processing power. The wolves cannot succeed indefinitely.

The problem is the excessive competition between individuals and groups that causes us to loose efficiency as a society. It seems that historically mother nature has not rewarded opportunistic social behaviors in cold climates like it has in hot ones. This is perhaps because of an over-abundance of plant based food resources in tropical regions which favored polygamy (ie, high male competition).

It seems that too much security of basic needs, regardless of efficient behavior, has led to a similar condition even in whites to an extent. But obviously niggers and jews are highly inefficient and just reproduce by living off whites. Which is entropy, if you will indulge another information metaphor.

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 29, 2022 22:33:31 ago (+0/-0)

i have read your comment several times, and there is really nothing to add to it as you are completely correct in everything.

imagine a time when winter lasts all year and ressources are scarce.

only individuals and groups who have enough discipline to not exploit their ressources (say, eat the winter-stash all in fall) only those survive.

discipline. thats what creates star-faring civilisations.

thats why the hedonism of the left has to be opposed.

thats why fats and fags and whores are so inherently disgusting.

it took only a few decades of brainwashing to make people accept these abominations...

(((they))) really seem to know what they are doing...

do you thionk there is a possibility that this planet isnt the first one that got infected by jEws?

60 million years ago, another sun passed by our sun close enough to make interstellar travel relatively easy...

is that where the jEw came from?

[ - ] HowDoYouDoFellowNiggers [op] -1 points 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2022 15:26:21 ago (+0/-1)

What?

[ - ] boomerkiller -2 points 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 11:42:31 ago (+0/-2)

Are you saying journalist are stupid faggots?

[ - ] RobertJHarsh 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 10:55:50 ago (+2/-0)

I for one welcome our jellyfish overlords.

[ - ] rhy 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 15:57:56 ago (+0/-0)

Actually sharks are completely regenerative also. So there could be individual sharks that have been swimming around for a million years.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 27, 2022 16:02:39 ago (+1/-0)

No, there couldn’t. Sharks have a much lower metabolism so there is less oxidative damage to their dna over a similar period of time vs humans. Perhaps their celluar “robustness” has to do with longer telomeres? I don’t claim to understand it well but there is a trade off between cellular aging and susceptibility to cancer, and longer telomeres will increase cellular robustness and survivability but they will increase the risk of cancer (i.e. when bad cells replicate too much).

Perhaps because sharks have a low metabolism, and consequently a low risk of cancer (from oxidative damage) anyway, they can afford to have more robust cellular repair from longer telomeres. This is related to a concept I mentioned above called hayflick limit and something called cellular senescence. I assume sharks have a higher hayflick limit and slower cellular senescence (educated guess) but eventually even sharks will run down at the cellular level—of that much I am sure. You can not grow normal shark cells in a petri dish indefinitely, eventually the dna degrades and the cells stop multiplying (ie repairing). So their might be some sharks that are a couple hundred years old but not much more.

There is this whole area of antiaging medicine out there called senolytics— the theory is that you can selectively kill off dysfunctional cells (apoptosis) nearing the hayflick limit while keeping your “younger” cells and you can slow the aging process this way. Rapamycin and some other anticancer drugs are being used now for this.

[ - ] La_Chalupacabra 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 14:33:02 ago (+0/-0)

I remember reading about this a while back.
If anyone's interested, the process is known as "transdifferentiation".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transdifferentiation

[ - ] LookFat 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 09:25:28 ago (+0/-0)

So are alligators...

[ - ] x0x7 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 26, 2022 09:29:28 ago (+1/-0)

This is the oldest known one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muja_(alligator)

Still not managing to top the oldest known living human.