Easy to find the formula at your trusty wikipedia, though I expect you have a copy in your back pocket, seeing as how you're so committed to your 3rd grade teachers. This is pretty easy stuff for high school grads to grasp. I'm hoping you vehement globetards got that far at least. Explain away or go pout and try and ignore the post.
It's so much easier to fool a man than it is to convince him he's been fooled
I'm curious why the experience of “seeing over the horizon”, causes one to believe they live on a flat Earth, instead of another explanation such as light rays traveling near the curvature of the planet.
When I stick a pole into a swimming pool and it appears disconnected, my first thought is not that the pole is now broken.
What is it about flat earthers that any odd effect automatically means we are in some freakish Truman Show with sophisticated moon hologram technology. Its quite the effort to maintain everything that would have to be involved to live on a prison planet.
I decided to post a simple proof you all could grasp. I don't know about or believe in a " "moon hologram", etc ... Try and stick to the simple subject proposed.
"I'm curious why the experience of “seeing over the horizon”, causes one to believe they live on a flat Earth, instead of another explanation such as light rays traveling near the curvature of the planet."
Thanks for that. That may explain why the sun "appears" to "set". I'll admit that I don't know. If you can admit there are many anomalies in the geocentric model, I'll admit that I see that too and I don't have all the answers. Just trying to encourage you to question your programming.
I admit it appears you can peer over the horizon , but light bending is hardly a new phenomena.
For example, have you ever seen fiber optics? They can bend like you wouldn't believe. The density of the medium causes light to want to stay inside because the area outside of the fiber has a lower index of refraction.
Refraction happens when light passes from one homogeneous area to another; the light is bent at the interface between the two different densities or medias.
Notice in the photos how much the light is capable of bending in a plastic glass. Much greater curvature than the video you linked to portrays in the narration.
The mathematical expression that describes this refraction phenomena is known as Snell’s law, n0 sinϕ0 = n1 sinϕ1
where n0 is the index of refraction of the medium in which the light is initially travelling, n1 is the index of refraction of the second medium, Φ0 is the angle between the incident ray and the normal to the interface, and Φ1 is the angle between the refracted ray and the normal to the interface.
Do I know for a fact that this is what is happening? No. I haven't set the experiment up. But it stands to reason that the decreasing densities in air could be bending light in a similar fashion. I would sooner believe that is the explanation than the moon is a hologram and telescopes are mere illusion devices.
We don't live in glass but the air is much thicker down here then it is on top of a mountain. That we can observe. Not to mention the ocean is a major density change and also causes light to bounce back up towards the sky like a fiber optic. And so is this change in medium from the ocean to the shallow air the reason that light temporarily follows the curvature of the earth? There may be other explanations.
The FE explanation carries, on the other hand, many many flaws. No explanation for moon being full in America while, at the same time, crescent moon if standing in another country. No explanation for flights taking predictable times. How do people sail around Antarctica so quickly? Not one pilot has been able to fly in record time from places that are "near" on the flat earth model. Rockets blast into space showing equal distance to the horizon no matter where they blast off from. Its all so tiring.
There is simply a complex with flat earthers where they demand a need to remain smarter than everyone else and they demand a need to remain in a jail planet where nasa mysticism is employed to keep everyone in a trance.
You're the same as a woke genederologist screeching to me about the 72 genders you cycle through in a given day.
The globe, heliocentric model makes the most sense based on the physical proof provided. The flat earth models all have fundamental flaws that are ignored or explained away as trickery from someone, who? Depends on which crackpot you're asking.
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 10:44:01 ago (+1/-0)
I have and it's still the best model we have to date.
The issue is that you refuse to accept when you are wrong, when your model is wrong.
Light bends and refracts in substances, it's not my fault you can't accept that simple truth. The nature of light passing through a medium is why you get the effects on the horizon that you are screeching about.
Simple to understand answer, but you refuse to set your narcissism and ego aside and say "oh, I was wrong, onto next concern". This is why no one respects you retards and why everyone is automatically antagonistic to you.
I don't need to explain flattard anecdotes that I can't verify. The sky write large shows how devoid of substance flattard claims are. Anybody on Earth can verify how the sun and stars behave.
The biggest assumption in the video is that the lighthouses are on a portion of the earth that is exactly curved....
How is that proved or disproved when most of the land has so many changes in elevation that it is impossible to find a "flat" area large enough to take measurements, and everyone resorts to water.
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[ - ] observation1 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 01:39:54 ago (+3/-0)*
When I stick a pole into a swimming pool and it appears disconnected, my first thought is not that the pole is now broken.
What is it about flat earthers that any odd effect automatically means we are in some freakish Truman Show with sophisticated moon hologram technology. Its quite the effort to maintain everything that would have to be involved to live on a prison planet.
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 04:42:18 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 09:35:20 ago (+0/-0)
Try and stick to the simple subject proposed.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 14:17:10 ago (+0/-0)
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-82a5d2b17d85bd2f1cca2efef3d2e2f7-lq
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5d2678d89a5d6e3ac296320606cdff10-lq
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 09:50:12 ago (+0/-0)
Thanks for that. That may explain why the sun "appears" to "set".
I'll admit that I don't know.
If you can admit there are many anomalies in the geocentric model, I'll admit that I see that too and I don't have all the answers.
Just trying to encourage you to question your programming.
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 09:54:58 ago (+0/-0)
Why does it go out?
Zoom in on the sun for an hour or more during sunset - a flat earth should allow that right?
Post the hour or two long video of the sun "trying" to set. That's an easy experiment for anyone to do. Show the results if you believe.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 14:48:18 ago (+0/-0)*
For example, have you ever seen fiber optics? They can bend like you wouldn't believe. The density of the medium causes light to want to stay inside because the area outside of the fiber has a lower index of refraction.
https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/chp%3A10.1007%2F978-3-319-31903-2_13/MediaObjects/370011_1_En_13_Fig24_HTML.gif
http://www.thesensorycompany.com/ProductImages/181502.jpg
Refraction happens when light passes from one homogeneous area to another; the light is bent at the interface between the two different densities or medias.
Notice in the photos how much the light is capable of bending in a plastic glass. Much greater curvature than the video you linked to portrays in the narration.
The mathematical expression that describes this refraction phenomena is known as Snell’s law,
n0 sinϕ0 = n1 sinϕ1
where n0 is the index of refraction of the medium in which the light is initially travelling, n1 is the index of refraction of the second medium, Φ0 is the angle between the incident ray and the normal to the interface, and Φ1 is the angle between the refracted ray and the normal to the interface.
https://pic8.co/sh/CEa7x2.jpg
Do I know for a fact that this is what is happening? No. I haven't set the experiment up. But it stands to reason that the decreasing densities in air could be bending light in a similar fashion. I would sooner believe that is the explanation than the moon is a hologram and telescopes are mere illusion devices.
https://149466865.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/fiber_optics-e1446003378411.jpg
We don't live in glass but the air is much thicker down here then it is on top of a mountain. That we can observe. Not to mention the ocean is a major density change and also causes light to bounce back up towards the sky like a fiber optic. And so is this change in medium from the ocean to the shallow air the reason that light temporarily follows the curvature of the earth? There may be other explanations.
The FE explanation carries, on the other hand, many many flaws. No explanation for moon being full in America while, at the same time, crescent moon if standing in another country. No explanation for flights taking predictable times. How do people sail around Antarctica so quickly? Not one pilot has been able to fly in record time from places that are "near" on the flat earth model. Rockets blast into space showing equal distance to the horizon no matter where they blast off from. Its all so tiring.
There is simply a complex with flat earthers where they demand a need to remain smarter than everyone else and they demand a need to remain in a jail planet where nasa mysticism is employed to keep everyone in a trance.
[ + ] s23erdctfvyg
[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 01:23:06 ago (+3/-0)
The only thing that confuses me about these flat earth posts is how you sound like we've been chasing you around and beating you for your opinions.
We don't care, and we never will because it has zero relevance.
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 09:38:37 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 10:26:12 ago (+0/-0)
You're the same as a woke genederologist screeching to me about the 72 genders you cycle through in a given day.
The globe, heliocentric model makes the most sense based on the physical proof provided. The flat earth models all have fundamental flaws that are ignored or explained away as trickery from someone, who? Depends on which crackpot you're asking.
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 10:30:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 10:35:58 ago (+0/-0)
Yo
Flat earth is bunk, been disproved by your own flat earth "leadership" multiple times. Do you even watch your own people do their expiriments?
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 13:19:29 ago (+0/-0)
I don't have other people to call my own.
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 14:02:07 ago (+1/-0)
You are a flat earthers, your people are flat earthers. You'd sell out your blood relatives if they don't follow your bullshit.
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 10, 2022 02:30:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] s23erdctfvyg
[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 12:16:53 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 13:21:02 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 10, 2022 02:30:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ThisGuy
[ - ] ThisGuy 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 04:42:49 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 09:53:01 ago (+0/-0)
Sophistry.
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 10, 2022 02:31:34 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 05:54:10 ago (+1/-0)
o Why the sun is always the same size when viewed through a filter to remove glare.
o Why the sun always sets from bottom to top when viewed through a filter to remove glare.
o Why the stars rotate overhead as you move along the surface of the Earth.
o Why the stars rotate about the Southern pole.
All we get are specious claims that nearby objects shouldn't be visible. Flattards ignore all claims that show objects cut off by the horizon.
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 08:35:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 09:43:58 ago (+0/-0)
It's disingenuous.
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 10:27:23 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 10:35:20 ago (+0/-0)
Can you admit there are anomalies in your globe earth model ?
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 10:44:01 ago (+1/-0)
The issue is that you refuse to accept when you are wrong, when your model is wrong.
Light bends and refracts in substances, it's not my fault you can't accept that simple truth. The nature of light passing through a medium is why you get the effects on the horizon that you are screeching about.
Simple to understand answer, but you refuse to set your narcissism and ego aside and say "oh, I was wrong, onto next concern". This is why no one respects you retards and why everyone is automatically antagonistic to you.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 10:43:40 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 09:57:54 ago (+0/-0)
How is that proved or disproved when most of the land has so many changes in elevation that it is impossible to find a "flat" area large enough to take measurements, and everyone resorts to water.
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 10:29:08 ago (+0/-0)
There are in fact many places on earth (land), where the curvature formula is refuted.
[ + ] olinneserpona
[ - ] olinneserpona 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 04:55:16 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 03:23:35 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 09:56:25 ago (+0/-0)
Nolo contendre.