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Amazon Buys Roomba Company, Will Now Map Inside of Your House

submitted by deleted to technology 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 16:21:53 ago (+40/-4)     (technology)

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[ - ] ThisGuy 5 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 19:15:14 ago (+5/-0)

IoT is shorthand for "we're spying on you".

[ - ] totes_magotes 4 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 17:38:55 ago (+4/-0)

I'm all for home automation if done right and securely (meaning you keep your data, not the company) and roomba was always an interesting idea because it would save me so much time. Puppies and dogs (in general) are messy. One of these would easily save me 1 hour of time each week where I could be doing other things (like dishes, other cleaning, etc.). It was always the price tag that turned me off. Now I'm glad.

I've recently been looking into the idea of getting certain kinds of smart plugs where I could send my own commands instead of linking through services like alexa or google so that I could do things like turn off the water heater at night, "always on" devices like monitors and so on but the prices are not worth it yet unless you can find a pack of four on deep discount. The prices don't work out until maybe 2 years down the road.

How the fuck are we supposed to leverage new technology to make our lives not quite so busy and life (in general) cheaper if they're so fucking expensive and data-mined???

[ - ] deleted 4 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 21:38:19 ago (+4/-0)

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[ - ] totes_magotes 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 23:07:31 ago (+2/-0)

Well this looks damned handy. Thanks!

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 17:48:34 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] totes_magotes 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 18:09:26 ago (+2/-0)*

There's that but there's also a lot to say about having it tied into, say, security systems, flood detection systems, weather and temperature forecasts, custom calls for phone location (instead of relying on third-party), home ac/heat scheduling (for which a simple on/off is worthless) and so on. Just having it on a timer is only a start.

Now to that point, I have taken a raspberry pi, built a google home assistant from scratch, forced it to play a "gong" whenever the system would activate (meaning it was grabbing sound and there's a whole algorithm and system that is important to know about how the activation works and when it communicates with other servers) which rendered the entire recording utterly useless to google's analytics systems while still allowing the voice recognition to correctly interpret the command (google doesn't analyze the command, they analyze the recording). In so doing, I found that from the mid-90s on, many shows and movies trigger false positives in the google ecosystem and nearly all movies and shows from 2005 on trigger it.

As soon as I can clear some other "busy work" up, I'm diving into how to make one for amazon's alexa ecosystem because there's a LOT of devices that are essentially the wireless version of "plug and play" for alexa. Combined with systems like "If this then that" and similar, it's extremely easy to separate the device from the data from the account so that it can't be tracked back to anything. Combine that with Alexa's built in fire alarm noise detection, glass break detection, and so on, separating that from the aws ecosystem so the data is worthless but still useful to a security monitoring service, and you have the automation without the data mining. In researching this, I found that there's a frequency you can have playing in the background that we can't hear but will completely disable the alexa voice detection system. It's how you can play back recordings of your commands to alexa and it not fire alexa/ Some youtube content producers are aware of this and embed it in their videos so they can talk about the devices and features without triggering yours. Google has the same feature but I never really looked into it. So when you see a show or commercial that triggers your devices, know that they absolutely knew about those frequencies and deliberately chose not to include them.

Oh, and you can activate any voice detection assistant system with a laser.

And on that note, one of the things I would love to do is get one of the AT&T cell network programmable Dash buttons, tie that into AWS, link that to my garage door system so I can trigger it from anywhere I have cell access. The device is something like $25 each and comes with 3 years cell access. I've made such a system on a commercial basis before.

[ - ] diggernicks 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 19:07:54 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah my grandparents had external ones that plugged into outlets back in the 80s...

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 22:04:51 ago (+1/-0)

Now I'm glad.

Stay glad. Those things don't clean much at a time, have a very tiny bin that needs constantly emptied, and are often having problems with getting stuck on shit.

And if you have animals? Forget about it, that much hair/dust will probably be too much for those tiny things.

Heaven forbid you live in a high-dust area.

[ - ] Cunt 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 23:06:35 ago (+1/-0)

I got a retard robot vac. It was cheap so has had to been repaired thrice but it's all right. Doesn't do a map just bumbles around the house bumping into walls then changing direction. It does seem to avoid any big messes until just before the battery runs out though, so not as efficient as a roomba, but neither will ever have the suction of a plug in vacuum so they both work for keeping the floors presentable if not clean.

[ - ] cb1 -1 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 08:33:51 ago (+0/-1)

Who the fuck turns their water heater off at night?

[ - ] deleted 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 17:47:34 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] deleted 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 18:24:45 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] deleted -6 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 21:03:16 ago (+0/-6)

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[ - ] Xantha 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 20:32:37 ago (+2/-0)

My old as fuck house has four full staircases. Why? Because some old-timey wood-sperg really loved leg day.

Let me know when these can climb stairs, cause ain't shit getting mapped here.

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 19:41:40 ago (+1/-0)

don't post Vice links here, fag

[ - ] deleted 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 19:49:35 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] deleted -4 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 21:03:24 ago (+0/-4)

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[ - ] thatsrealfuckinggay 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2022 08:48:52 ago (+0/-0)

Vice literally writes articles about cuckoldry and is one of the main promoters of feminism. Stop being fucking cuckolds.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 21:06:22 ago (+0/-0)

It's so the zogbots have an understanding of the building they are about to breach and an easy way to obtain the info.

I mean ets jess cleanin yer hows! Wutteryooo affrrayduv?! Jess booyai et arreddy!!

[ - ] PrincessRobotBubblegum 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 16:43:40 ago (+0/-0)

Luddite.

[ - ] GLOMAN4ALLIES -1 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 22:43:42 ago (+1/-2)

blum3n u smut peddler

[ - ] deleted -2 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 21:03:06 ago (+1/-3)

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[ - ] GLOMAN4ALLIES -1 points 2.8 yearsAug 7, 2022 22:44:15 ago (+1/-2)

das rite