[ - ] Name 8 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 10:33:31 ago (+8/-0)
Your friends, family, associates, heroes and politicians; If they are not part of the solution they are part of the problem, no matter how much you love or respect them.
Yes, As a music lover, this knowledge hits me hard.
I like Goth a lot, so I will be using examples of the scene.
Worst case they are SJW, like Alien Sex Fiend and London After Midnight, best case they are based but unpersoned, like Radio Werewolf and Rozz Williams from Christian Death, most likely they are somewhere in the middle.
Still, I separate the music from the person who happens to be making it, according to some very convincing theories, we can do that with all manner of things that were discovered or invented.
Without the person attributed to the work in our history, someone else would have done it, or something similar, with any differences being not significant, the inventor or discoverer was incidental.
It's deterministic, given the population genetics and the relevant circumstances around the time, the event of invention or discovery was "due" to occur, if not by the one we know for doing it, someone else would have done so in their stead, this applies to not only scientific discoveries and technological inventions, but to anything that was done by people, products or services being released, or artistic works being created.
If these artists didn't make these songs, then someone else around that time and place would have, maybe not at the exact date or in the exact location, and maybe not in the exact same way, but likely the differences would be slight enough to ignore, the general effect of the "accomplishment" (any novel doing) would be the same.
Of course, opinions, like political views, would be covered under the same rule, so they'd likely be just as pozz'd as the people they are replacing.
There's the other aspect of this, and that is that the different aspects of a creator and their influence on the creation, what goes into their creations, and what does not.
Just because a song is made by a communist doesn't mean that their communism has any effect on the song they created, and it surely doesn't mean that a non-communist couldn't enjoy the song, and this still applies even if it was explicitly pro-commie.
Richard Dawkins is the supreme fedora-tipper, but he prefers christmas songs that weren't the secular tunes written by kikes and overplayed at grocery stores, for him christianity is better considered as a mythology than just being discarded entirely or regarded as being the literal truth. He sees the holiday is still being a heavily christian one, and he rather prefers the christmas songs with christ or god in them to the ones without, the type of songs that were more likely to have been written by gentiles.
You don't have to be a pagan to enjoy the songs of Wagner, or give a damn about the middle east to enjoy "rock the kashbah".
You can enjoy a tune with a message by adopting a mindset that allows you to interpret it differently than the artist making it likely had.
Another point is that we don't truly know about how much in the song is from the creator and how much comes from other influences.
Look at Rob Halford, a faggot who made his songs about heterosexual love and lust for women from straight a man's perspective, he made them not because he himself had personally found women attractive, but because the society of the time would pressure him into making his songs like this.
Well, other factors would exert a similar effect, unless it's as clearly parodic as an anal cunt song, writing a song about an earnest belief in Hitler or Nazism in the last 60 years would go over like a Lead Zepplin in most places, so any successful artist would avoid mentioning anything that would even imply far-right sympathies.
Yes we have those few bands and labels that openly allow and encourage such political beliefs to be expressed by their artists, but most of those are honey traps, or cynical ploys to suck the money out of a small and obscure fanbase that generally go uncatered to, or some other sort of setup that would restrict their artists from gaining any sort of real success in their careers.
Any artists with unpopular political beliefs will keeping their mouths shut tight, some may even masquerade as sjw types, just to throw people of the scent. Who knows, maybe what seems to be the most left artist is in fact one of the basest bros?
The last thing is that if you like the song itself, just enjoy it, don't worry about where it came from who who had made it, or even what the song itself is like or about, if you like something, just enjoy it, don't let your other aspects of yourself restrict you from living the kind of life you enjoy.
Now, this is about music, if it was about something like food, where a business that makes a food you enjoy has bad politics and supports it from their profits, then you might be best to seek out other places with better politics that make food like the kind you enjoy to purchase it from.
I guess you could do similar with music by finding cover artists who aren't as openly fucked up politics-wise to listen to those songs or type of songs from, that's a good idea as well. Note that good cover artists are hard to find, and for obscure songs from obscure artists or genres, you'd have trouble finding any covers at all.
Goth isn't all that obscure, but not that popular either. Luckily I like Punk and Metal and all the other genres of music as well, there's not one kind of music that I'm not a fan of.
I feel the same way about punk. Unfortunately, jews started and ran punk from the beginning with people like Richard Hell, Malcolm McClaren, Brett Guerwitz, Henry Garfield, Danny Fields, Joey Ramone and Keith Morris all heebs planning and playing punk.
I'm just glad that metal has mostly gone untouched. I'm just surprised that bands like Rammstein and Behemoth were such liberal faggots.
Rammstein has been fucked for a long time-- waaaaaayyyyyy before they used a nigger for Germania. The official video from Mann Gegen Mann in ~2006 was one of the first redpills I received. The entire video is disgusting homoerotic imagery-- its definitely some kiked-Weimar 2.0 shit. The ZOG in Germany would never have allowed a /based band/ to become as popular as Rammstein was allowed to be, they'd be in jail for life by this point.
I don't think there was ever a question Joey was a jew. I love the Ramones but Joey was Jewish as fuck- gangly and freaky looking, constantly sick mentally and physically, pushy mom...I don't know about his personal life but I wouldn't be surprised if he was into freaky shit.
Most people are products of their genes and surroundings. Also I know that just because someone is Jewish doesn't mean they are anti white or pro jewish, heck, we already know of a few jews that are actively pro white and anti Jewish.
While it's true that whites are idiot lemmings who eat the jew fruit and take some of the blame, you understimate the level of corruption in our financialized economy. Don't assume that any human customer actually gives them the money or attention they claim to have.
[ + ] Name
[ - ] Name 8 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 10:33:31 ago (+8/-0)
[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 1 point 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 13:21:39 ago (+1/-0)
I like Goth a lot, so I will be using examples of the scene.
Worst case they are SJW, like Alien Sex Fiend and London After Midnight, best case they are based but unpersoned, like Radio Werewolf and Rozz Williams from Christian Death, most likely they are somewhere in the middle.
Still, I separate the music from the person who happens to be making it, according to some very convincing theories, we can do that with all manner of things that were discovered or invented.
Without the person attributed to the work in our history, someone else would have done it, or something similar, with any differences being not significant, the inventor or discoverer was incidental.
It's deterministic, given the population genetics and the relevant circumstances around the time, the event of invention or discovery was "due" to occur, if not by the one we know for doing it, someone else would have done so in their stead, this applies to not only scientific discoveries and technological inventions, but to anything that was done by people, products or services being released, or artistic works being created.
If these artists didn't make these songs, then someone else around that time and place would have, maybe not at the exact date or in the exact location, and maybe not in the exact same way, but likely the differences would be slight enough to ignore, the general effect of the "accomplishment" (any novel doing) would be the same.
Of course, opinions, like political views, would be covered under the same rule, so they'd likely be just as pozz'd as the people they are replacing.
There's the other aspect of this, and that is that the different aspects of a creator and their influence on the creation, what goes into their creations, and what does not.
Just because a song is made by a communist doesn't mean that their communism has any effect on the song they created, and it surely doesn't mean that a non-communist couldn't enjoy the song, and this still applies even if it was explicitly pro-commie.
Richard Dawkins is the supreme fedora-tipper, but he prefers christmas songs that weren't the secular tunes written by kikes and overplayed at grocery stores, for him christianity is better considered as a mythology than just being discarded entirely or regarded as being the literal truth. He sees the holiday is still being a heavily christian one, and he rather prefers the christmas songs with christ or god in them to the ones without, the type of songs that were more likely to have been written by gentiles.
You don't have to be a pagan to enjoy the songs of Wagner, or give a damn about the middle east to enjoy "rock the kashbah".
You can enjoy a tune with a message by adopting a mindset that allows you to interpret it differently than the artist making it likely had.
Another point is that we don't truly know about how much in the song is from the creator and how much comes from other influences.
Look at Rob Halford, a faggot who made his songs about heterosexual love and lust for women from straight a man's perspective, he made them not because he himself had personally found women attractive, but because the society of the time would pressure him into making his songs like this.
Well, other factors would exert a similar effect, unless it's as clearly parodic as an anal cunt song, writing a song about an earnest belief in Hitler or Nazism in the last 60 years would go over like a Lead Zepplin in most places, so any successful artist would avoid mentioning anything that would even imply far-right sympathies.
Yes we have those few bands and labels that openly allow and encourage such political beliefs to be expressed by their artists, but most of those are honey traps, or cynical ploys to suck the money out of a small and obscure fanbase that generally go uncatered to, or some other sort of setup that would restrict their artists from gaining any sort of real success in their careers.
Any artists with unpopular political beliefs will keeping their mouths shut tight, some may even masquerade as sjw types, just to throw people of the scent. Who knows, maybe what seems to be the most left artist is in fact one of the basest bros?
The last thing is that if you like the song itself, just enjoy it, don't worry about where it came from who who had made it, or even what the song itself is like or about, if you like something, just enjoy it, don't let your other aspects of yourself restrict you from living the kind of life you enjoy.
Now, this is about music, if it was about something like food, where a business that makes a food you enjoy has bad politics and supports it from their profits, then you might be best to seek out other places with better politics that make food like the kind you enjoy to purchase it from.
I guess you could do similar with music by finding cover artists who aren't as openly fucked up politics-wise to listen to those songs or type of songs from, that's a good idea as well. Note that good cover artists are hard to find, and for obscure songs from obscure artists or genres, you'd have trouble finding any covers at all.
Goth isn't all that obscure, but not that popular either. Luckily I like Punk and Metal and all the other genres of music as well, there's not one kind of music that I'm not a fan of.
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 2 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 13:52:16 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 4 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 13:53:35 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] Teefinyomouf
[ - ] Teefinyomouf 0 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 21:16:53 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 0 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 21:24:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull -1 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 14:08:11 ago (+1/-2)
THAT is NOT music,no matter WTF you milinies say.
You're Welcome.!!!
[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 2 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 14:26:27 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] NuckFiggers
[ - ] NuckFiggers 2 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 15:13:54 ago (+2/-0)
I'm just glad that metal has mostly gone untouched. I'm just surprised that bands like Rammstein and Behemoth were such liberal faggots.
[ + ] Xantha
[ - ] Xantha 0 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 17:30:16 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] NuckFiggers
[ - ] NuckFiggers 0 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 18:28:00 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] deleted -1 points 2.9 yearsAug 5, 2022 18:36:39 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 0 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 22:41:16 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] MichaelStewart
[ - ] MichaelStewart 0 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 16:47:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Trickthegoyim
[ - ] Trickthegoyim 1 point 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 17:48:24 ago (+1/-0)
few people that own the monetary system. Who knows who that is
[ + ] Empire_of_the_Mind
[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 0 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 17:56:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] oppressed
[ - ] oppressed [op] 0 points 2.9 yearsJul 31, 2022 01:43:00 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Empire_of_the_Mind
[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 0 points 2.9 yearsJul 31, 2022 03:51:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 2.9 yearsJul 30, 2022 18:30:47 ago (+0/-0)
https://youtu.be/TV85OrRwo98
Honorable mention?
https://youtu.be/kgIRClKD4RI
[ + ] oppressed
[ - ] oppressed [op] 0 points 2.9 yearsJul 31, 2022 01:42:07 ago (+0/-0)