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Whoever keeps using the James Webb telescope to image galaxies and nebulae should fuck off and let the real researchers focus on exoplanets.

submitted by SithEmpire to whatever 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 14:54:52 ago (+33/-2)     (whatever)

We don't need deep field stuff with over 9000 galaxies in one image when we aren't even interstellar yet, let alone intergalactic.

Most nebulae look much the same, and none are of any use.

Space fully deserves its fake and/or gay status until we can get an actual generation ship flying to an actual habitable exoplanet. Identifying them is difficult because the orbit has to pass by its star for back-lighting, which says to me that all of its time should go into locating new candidate exoplanets, with priority access when such a passage occurs.

With a definitive destination, I am 100% sure that an actual voyage is possible (the first step is never submitting to pessimism). I would go, even if my purpose was just to produce and educate the next generation during the flight, because it feels natural to have the forefront of humanity in mind.


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[ - ] drhitler 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 05:34:14 ago (+1/-0)

dosn't matter, something hit it, its already broken

[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 00:52:55 ago (+1/-0)

Until we see underwater cities, space travel is completely fake and gay.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 22:50:04 ago (+1/-0)

We must terraform Venus.

[ - ] SithEmpire [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 28, 2022 03:28:55 ago (+0/-0)

Venus is an interesting case; if I recall, the only thing stopping it being almost tidally locked is that it rotates backwards. That still gives it a sunlight cycle of over 100 Earth days though... I wouldn't say never, only that un-densing its atmosphere would have to be one part of a larger plan once the atmosphere no longer distributes all that heat.

[ - ] ruck_feddit 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 21:59:01 ago (+1/-0)

I agree 100%. Use those new instruments to find new ep's and examine their atmospheres. Don't get me wrong, use that IR to see further than we've ever seen. But, stop with the Instagram style shit over science.

Also, I hate hearing xyz is the most exciting planet to examine for life even though it resides way outside it's star's habitable zone. We're wasting time and fuel on shit like that, too.

Do me a favor: Take a look at https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=62dd0cede8103&commentid=62ddf043d1cea and tell me if I'm retarded or observation1

[ - ] SithEmpire [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 02:48:32 ago (+0/-0)

Taken individually, I wouldn't call either of your points retarded, although you know what they say about arguing on the Internet being like the special olympics.

[ - ] ruck_feddit 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 04:18:43 ago (+1/-0)

You nailed it. He gave me a season pass to the special olympics.

[ - ] totes_magotes 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 21:37:58 ago (+0/-0)

It's almost like a bunch of people here are too stupid to realize that in order to make sure that the damned thing is working that they have to image things they already know a lot about so that they can see if the data is reliable.

Almost... because I know people here aren't that fuckin' stupid.

[ - ] Teefinyomouf 2 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 21:09:56 ago (+2/-0)

There's the Proxima B mission. Shoot a quarter of the electric output of the USA into a 1 km wide laser beam to accelerate a microchipped mylar sail to 0.2 c in 10 minutes. Then 20 years later it photographs the system and in 24 years we have pics back here on earth. This is the closest possible exoplanet in a habitable zone. It orbits a red dwarf and may be tidally locked. It would be a badass looking planet with black foliage for max photosynthesis in the dim red and infrared light of the star.

[ - ] x0x7 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 21:16:02 ago (+0/-0)

If it's tidal locked wouldn't that mean one side is hot enough to melt metal and the other cold enough to make liquid nitrogen? Maybe that's a little extreme but the habitable part would just be a ring. Better hope there is no wobble to that ring or you might seasonally experience the two extremes no matter where you are.

[ - ] Teefinyomouf 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 08:45:38 ago (+1/-0)

The only way to know is to get a probe there. 2 missions, the first is 24 years with a 60,000 km/s flyby. The second would take 99 years and actually enter orbit. Slowing for orbit the proxima system requires a max speed of 0.046 c.

[ - ] Her0n 2 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 20:53:58 ago (+2/-0)

I think the fact that mars has a solid core means it will never be a viable candidate.

Life as we know it needs protection from radiation and electromagnetism.

[ - ] x0x7 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 21:17:28 ago (+0/-0)

You could build bunkers underground? That's probably why Elon was so interested in the Boring Company.

[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 22:34:50 ago (+1/-0)

Grow food how? Solar power is much weaker on Mars, same with solar since the atmosphere is thin.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 22:51:43 ago (+0/-0)

Thats why venus.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 05:17:34 ago (+0/-0)

Still not enough sunlight, winds too strong for wind power, no magnetosphere for Venus either. Solid core planet with acid rain, volcanic activity, hurricane force winds, toxic air, high barometric pressure.

We'd be better off trying to build an orbital habitat IMO

[ - ] DukeCanon 2 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 06:44:50 ago (+2/-0)

Couldn't even build one on earth. How could they in space.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 07:24:42 ago (+0/-0)

The problem I see most "experts" mention is size. A habitat on earth would need to be the size of a continent at least, preferably two. The only way we could build that is by building it in space.

It's not going to happen anytime soon, but I thinks it's a more realistic approach than trying to inhabit the other planets in our system.

[ - ] Hadza 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 06:01:52 ago (+1/-0)

Here's a good video on how to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI-old7YI4I

All these are very imaginative and uplifting prospects, but unfortunately quite distant and getting further with every day we're not dealing with our burdens. Go big or go nig

[ - ] throwawayaccount 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 06:29:02 ago (+1/-0)

Here's another good video about terraforming Venus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-WO-z-QuWI

I find it funny they put (quickly) in the title despite the fact it would take hundreds of years.

[ - ] Hadza 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 06:41:43 ago (+0/-0)*

I would've loved Kurzgesagt vides if they weren't gay. Just look at how they peddle migrants and climate changerino even in this same vid. They even manage to squeeze in coronavirus, for fucks sake.

It's still relatively quickly considering other options. It seems though eventually we'll have to slow down our life styles and adapt to projects with time scales in hundreds and thousands of years. Similar to how the cathedrals of old were built. Hyped for space renaissance yet?

[ - ] throwawayaccount 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 06:53:58 ago (+0/-0)

I don't think any of these options will be reasonable until we transcend our current mortal boundaries and extend our life spans to thousands of years. It's not feasible to take on projects that will outlive its proprietors by dozens of generations. Especially when the product is tens of thousands of miles away and most humans will only see it on television screens.

My synapses are so burned out by constant peddling of Jew shit that most of the time I don't even see it anymore. Especially in such insignificant amounts as this video has it. You're lucky to get relatively small amounts of pandering bullshit. Don't think we'll ever be completely rid of it. Regrettably.

[ - ] Hadza 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 07:04:50 ago (+0/-0)

Transcending mortal boundaries is getting too dangerously close to jew transhumanism for me, so my solution would just be more patience. White people have low enough time preference to accomplish these things, especially if you breed it even further. It would suck really bad if a project like that was halted due to some jew upheaval halfway through though. And even with most things going right, the control levels required for the project are so high that it would only take a single shabbos Bezos to turn it into a police hellscape.

You're lucky to get relatively small amounts of pandering bullshit

You might be right, but Kurzgesagt has way too much soy in it for me to enjoy it now.

Don't think we'll ever be completely rid of it. Regrettably.

Well, it's a prerequisite. And it's not like we'll ever be completely rid of entropy as well, at the very least, not any time soon. I'm an atheist but the eternal fight of the Man (and life in general) against entropy (Satan) and its incantations (it's children, aka, jews, etc) is about as biblical as it gets.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 18:00:59 ago (+0/-0)

Good video.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 17:46:16 ago (+1/-0)

Thanks Hadza.

[ - ] AOUsNameIsDavid 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 17:20:03 ago (+0/-0)

Getting further each day? Like how they claim that stars are billions of lightyears away, in their own galaxies yet somehow remain in the exact same location in the sky for thousands of years. Kek

[ - ] Hadza 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 17:27:20 ago (+0/-0)

Yes, because thousands of years is a significant enough amount of time for stars to move. Durr. Also it's nothing near what I meant

[ - ] AOUsNameIsDavid 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 19:40:21 ago (+0/-0)

The stars in the sky have been constellations that navigators have used for thousands of years. That isn't possible if they were getting further away or orbiting around within their own galaxies. How come you people don't question the utter bullshit you were led to believe in?

[ - ] Hadza 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 19:58:53 ago (+0/-0)

Ever notice how when buildings are really far away it feels like they're not moving at all compared to objects near you? Now multiply that by billions of times and you'll get parallax effect. I question you, jew

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 17:21:25 ago (+0/-0)

Alot of those problems can be solved by changing the atmosphere. Venus has the right gravity for people,

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 17:36:52 ago (+0/-0)

It has no magnetosphere. Overabundance of radiation leads to cancer and mutations due to the degradation of DNA.
Need a molten core planet, since we don't have any extra lying around I think our best option is to go with an orbital habitat.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 18:03:05 ago (+0/-0)

You could shield the planet or even increase angular momentum. Did you watch those videos?

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 22:15:32 ago (+0/-0)

How can we shield it?

No I didn't have the time. I have too much on my plate already.

How can we change the angular momentum?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 23:10:40 ago (+0/-0)

From “terraforming venus” wikipedia:

Creating an artificial magnetosphere[edit]
Protecting the new atmosphere from the solar wind, to avoid the loss of hydrogen, would require an artificial magnetosphere. Venus presently lacks an intrinsic magnetic field, therefore creating an artificial planetary magnetic field is needed to form a magnetosphere via its interaction with the solar wind. According to two NIFS Japanese scientists, it is feasible to do that with current technology by building a system of refrigerated latitudinal superconducting rings, each carrying a sufficient amount of direct current.[48]
In the same report, it is claimed that the economic impact of the system can be minimized by using it also as a planetary energy transfer and storage system (SMES). Another study proposes the possibility of deployment of a magnetic dipole shield at the L1 Lagrange point, thereby creating an artificial magnetosphere that would protect the whole planet from solar wind and radiation.[49]

How can we change the angular momentum?

Throw rocks at it. Maybe theres some other way like a solar sail? Or maybe you could use all the extra atmosphere somehow? Im just spitballing.

[ - ] throwawayaccount 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 23:29:08 ago (+0/-0)

The magnetosphere is irrelevant because of the way you'd have to use orbital mirrors to block out the sun in the first place and create artificial day/night cycle. You're already controlling incoming sunlight and radiation. Given enough time the planet will build up its own O-Zone layer and problem solved.
The magnetosphere issue is irrelevant to any society sophisticated enough to actually begin the terraforming process.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 28, 2022 09:08:57 ago (+0/-0)

Untrue, gamma rays pass through glass and mirrors. Gamma rays would still genetically degrade any life on the planet.

[ - ] texasblood 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 19:27:51 ago (+0/-0)

Earth has to have that curve or the cucks loose their collective shit.
Welcome to the Grand Illusion!

[ - ] GloryBeckons 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 18:54:30 ago (+2/-1)

We need sustainable colonies on the Moon and Mars before we can even begin thinking of sending anyone on an interstellar voyage.

Since the lightspeed barrier appears insurmountable, and we don't even have engines that could accelerate anywhere close to that anyway, such a journey would inevitably have to be generational. As in, the crew would live and die on the ship, and their children's children's great grandchildren might actually arrive at the destination. That's if we're lucky enough to find a planet that might be habitable among the closest star systems to ours. If it's further away, we're talking hundreds, maybe thousands of years to get there at sublightspeed.

We're nowhere close to being able to build a spaceship capable of making such a journey.

So there's plenty of time to look for exoplanets. No reason to rush it. Might as well snap some pretty pictures of nebulae along the way. Keeps the plebs interested. Hoping to find something better than Mars in our neighborhood is overly optimistic anyway.

The current priority has to be colonies in our own solar system. So we can learn how to be self-sufficient off-world, and how to deal with reproduction in low gravity, and all the other problems that come with it.

We might actually see such colonies in a couple decades or so. If we somehow manage to stop pampering niggers and faggots long enough to focus on things that matter. But interstellar travel, no way. Not in our lifetimes. Not anywhere close.

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 01:16:28 ago (+0/-0)

The current priority is underwater cities. If we don't see them, forget space colonies.

[ - ] SithEmpire [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 02:36:46 ago (+0/-0)

I am quite sure the first generation ship would be on its way by now if niggers and jews were contained and people stopped choosing to be faggots.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 10:39:23 ago (+0/-0)

If the good guys had won WW2, we'd certainly be much further along.

[ - ] Teefinyomouf 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 09:10:41 ago (+0/-0)

We'll collide with Andromeda in several billion years and that should provide multiple close passes to other star systems. Our tech needs to be on point by then in case an alien species is thinking the same about us.

[ - ] Sal_180 5 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 17:52:06 ago (+5/-0)

we can't even go to mars and you want to fly hundreds of lights years away?

[ - ] SithEmpire [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 02:23:17 ago (+0/-0)

Proxima Centauri would be a good start. Just a few light-years, albeit at sub-light speed.

[ - ] AOUsNameIsDavid 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 17:16:43 ago (+0/-0)

One light year = 5.879e × 10^12 miles

We cant even begin to fathom the distance of a lightyear, let alone travel it.

[ - ] SithEmpire [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 21:10:25 ago (+0/-0)

Speak for yourself; you'll have trouble understanding it if you stay with miles.

It may help to consider that 180000 miles is a light-second, and that geostationary satellite altitude is a tenth of that.

[ - ] AOUsNameIsDavid 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 28, 2022 17:04:00 ago (+0/-0)

Speaking for everyone. Putting it into light seconds does nothing. Its still an inconcievable distance that nobody alive or dead could ever fathom. 180 thousand miles is a light second and you think we can visibly see that far?

[ - ] MelGibson 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 17:37:09 ago (+3/-2)

Are you a fuckin retard?

Imagine caring about this fake as bullshit.

[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 2 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 18:34:02 ago (+2/-0)

Yeah. All this space stuff is bullshit. Space station?! Lol. Yeah, right!

[ - ] MelGibson 4 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 20:15:25 ago (+4/-0)

Space station and the moon landing are the fakest fucking thing in existence. It’s not my fault you have not done any research into topic. The media just told you look here are some astronauts and here are some pictures see it’s a space station! You just ate it up. I can’t tell you how many videos exist were things literally fall down when they are shooting their space station interviews suspended from cables. The only time it looks real is when they do the zero G dives in the Boeing but the videos are extremely short. All the videos of water floating around? Zero G dive.

[ - ] x0x7 3 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 21:20:00 ago (+3/-0)

The space station is real. Never underestimate the government's power to waste money and pursue vanity. You can see it in the night sky with the naked eye if its bouncing light off the sun correctly.

[ - ] Localuser 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 22:30:22 ago (+0/-0)

Hahaha c’mon man.
That’s probably a low orbit airplane, like the ones they use to map Google earth.

It’s all fake and gay

[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 18:33:28 ago (+0/-0)

You might have misunderstood my reply but just to clear things up I don’t believe in all this space exploration crap. All lies. I’ve seen it all. I believe the guy who said we can’t go back to the moon because we “lost” the telemetry data…. Yeah, you just lost that shit? Ok. You mean the shit that Hollywood said was calculated by some sheeboon who had to walk 40 minutes across the NASA campus to take a piss? Lol, ok. Hahaha! Fucking space. Lololol

[ - ] Thehumanwrist 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 19:38:20 ago (+1/-0)

Unironically this. Why do you believe in space?

[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 17:16:48 ago (+1/-0)

I'd be stoked if we could even get affordable orbital launches. Spending billion dollars on vehicles only a handful of men will ever use, have no military use and little scientific use is retarded.

[ - ] Hadza 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 20:39:16 ago (+0/-0)

What else would you spend it on? Niggers? NASA's budget isn't even 1% of the whole spending

[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 20:58:38 ago (+1/-0)

I wouldn't steal it in the first place.

[ - ] chrimony 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 17:05:26 ago (+1/-0)

Getting a tiny bit of light from a planet won't tell you if it is habitable. It may have oxygen and water and still be unsuitable. And interstellar space travel is a pipe dream. Too far, too hazardous, too many unknowns, and there are no resources.

The scientists know what they are doing, and will look at exoplanets when they plan to.

[ - ] x0x7 2 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 16:52:18 ago (+2/-0)

The only thing that matters is near space research. Yes, there is less data to mine compared to a nearly infinitely observable universe. Yes you actually need higher resolving power to observe the things you actually want to observe in near space, but until we have every asteroid mapped in our solar system, until we know exactly how much matter is in the Ort cloud and until we know every large body in the Centauri system and their atmospheric temperature there is no point in caring about white dwarfs on the other side of the universe.

[ - ] dalai_llama 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 16:25:53 ago (+0/-0)

Exoplanet research is still going on. Fucking hell man, you get out there and do it instead of bitching like a little whiny baby. You're a fucking lazy retard.

[ - ] ScheduledSuicide 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 17:35:17 ago (+1/-0)

Wow. You really are the Dalai Llama, aren't you?

[ - ] TankTinker 2 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 16:25:14 ago (+2/-0)

Yeah well the real problem with the WST is the same few images are being presented over and again everywhere you look, they are good images however there should be far more than that already bearing the launch date of December 2021 in mind .. Link.

[ - ] Boardallday3 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 16:20:46 ago (+1/-0)

Agree fully. The main reason is the MIRI detector (which has the occultation thing, that blocks out the stars light) and the NIRSpec instruments only just finished being set up like yesterday.

Here's a video from today with someone from the MIRI team
https://youtu.be/OkyQCDZp0gI

[ - ] Hall_of_Cost 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 15:58:38 ago (+1/-0)

100% agree and would also go.

[ - ] I_am_baal 1 point 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 15:37:46 ago (+1/-0)

I can't wait to see us become a solidly space faring species.

[ - ] AOUsNameIsDavid 10 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 15:36:41 ago (+10/-0)

We can nuke Earth completely and it would still be more liveable than any "planet" NASA claims they are trying to send colonies to. Mars, according to the experts, is a shithole void of life completely. How would we begin life on another "planet" if we cant even control the Earthly Plane we live on.

[ - ] qwop 3 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 16:29:38 ago (+3/-0)

In any case if NASA would send anything, it would be a retard diversity rainbow crew. No use whatsoever. NASA would just slowly pollute the universe with rainbow gays. Best we not find any exoplanets as long as we only have morons in charge.

[ - ] Panic 2 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 17:28:54 ago (+2/-0)

I used to think such endeavors was stupid, but you've made me a supporter! Let's put lots of, nay, let's put all the niggers and gays and jews on "holiday flights" to very distant places in the galaxy. Tell them space travel has been figured out. Shoot thousands of rockets into space. Of course, the rockets will run out of fuel, air and water just past Saturn. Solves all the world's problems.

Brilliant idea if done, ahem, correctly.

[ - ] SecretHitler 0 points 1.7 yearsJul 27, 2022 01:14:49 ago (+0/-0)

You think you're smart but if this goes wrong that's how you get actual real reptilian jews from outer space.

They probably don't even need to breathe when they're not feeding on a host nation anyway.

[ - ] Master_Foo -1 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 18:48:56 ago (+0/-1)

We can do it because we are White.

[ - ] zongongo 4 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 15:27:06 ago (+7/-3)

Fake and gay.

[ - ] lord_nougat 3 points 1.7 yearsJul 26, 2022 15:21:39 ago (+3/-0)

If it is not being used to help us expand the power and glory of our galactic empire, then what use is it?!