Gen X makes up the 70s and early 80s. Millennials make up the late 80s to 96. 96 to the early 2010s is gen Z, the next one has yet to be named. You think this doesn't make sense? Because it doesn't. They are arbitrarily drawn lines.
They are not arbitrary and the 80s is Y1 (also known as gen Y) 90s is Y2 (millenial).
They are based on a significant shift in technology, economics, sociological or cultural differing values that separates groups. Boomers went on for some thirty years whilst gen Y is barely a decade.
It makes sense, you just need to know what paradigm was responsible for a significant enough shift in generational outlook to classify a later group as another entity.
I'm sure I've posted about this before on tlol, if not on old voat.
Gen Y and Millennial are descriptors of the exact same group. Not only that but they are never consistent. For example, very few people in the US will even use the term "Generation Y" because it didn't catch on here. They're millennials. No official organization anywhere actually defines generations. No census bureau or government agency of any kind. They are terms created in the media and they either catch on or don't. Then it's a matter of the media arguing back and forth where they should start and end until they come upon an agreement. Even then, they're usually bad about it. Here's one example:
Pew Research Center decided a year ago to use 1996 as the last birth year for Millennials for our future work. Anyone born between 1981 and 1996 (ages 23 to 38 in 2019) is considered a Millennial, and anyone born from 1997 onward is part of a new generation.
Here's another:
Different names are used for this birth cohort around the world. For example, in North America the most common generational name is Millennials. However, in other parts of the world, Gen Y is more popular. The key is that it’s the same generation, just a different name. he birth years for Millennials are a hot topic and one in which there is much debate. Based on The Center’s research, we place the birth years for Millennials from approximately 1977 to 1995 in North America.
I emphasize approximately because the ending of one generation and beginning of the next is almost always a transitional period of a few years, not one defining moment—except in the case of 9/11 in the U.S. Since 9/11 was such a generation-defining moment in the U.S., Millennials end in 1995 and Gen Z begins immediately afterward. If you were born after 1995, our research shows it’s almost impossible to clearly remember 9/11 and have a deeply emotional, life-changing connection to it.
A third:
Millennials, also known as Generation Y or Gen Y, are the demographic cohort following Generation X and preceding Generation Z. Researchers and popular media use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s as ending birth years, with the generation typically being defined as people born from 1981 to 1996. Most millennials are the children of baby boomers and early Gen Xers; millennials are often the parents of Generation Alpha.
Oh, here's a fourth. This one actually brings up that Y1 and Y2 split you mentioned that until I read your comment I had never heard about.
Baby Boomers: Baby boomers were born between 1946 and 1964. They're currently between 57-75 years old Gen X: Gen X was born between 1965 and 1979/80 and is currently between 41-56 years old Gen Y: Gen Y, or Millennials, were born between 1981 and 1994/6. They are currently between 25 and 40 years old Gen Y.1 = 25-29 years old Gen Y.2 = 29-39 Gen Z: Gen Z is the newest generation, born between 1997 and 2012. They are currently between 9 and 24 years old Gen A: Generation Alpha starts with children born in 2012 and will continue at least through 2025, maybe later
Remember, these arbitrary generational cutoff points are just that. They aren’t an exact science and are continually evolving.
So the one that mentions your Gen Y1 and Y2 split straight up calls them arbitrary. I acquired all of these by clicking the first handful of links on the front page of Jewgle when searching for "gen y"
Most incorrectly attribute Millenial to Y1, but Y2 is millenial.
The reason for this is Y1 was a technological shift (first home computers and Internet access) marked a significant change that created a new generation. Y2 was a cultural shift (Social marxism, BLM, faggotry and every other ism is the stereotype of this sub group)
Y is between about '77-98 (Y1 is about 45-35yrs old) Y2 the rest 34 - to late 20s.
It is significant enough they split the generation in two for this reason.
It's arbitrary bullshit that does not matter. Even your given years don't match up with a single source I posted. By your claim I'm a millennial but by the other 4 claims I'm gen Z. So which is it? I'm Gen z 80% of the time but 20% of the time when some old fag wants to complain about me I'm a millennial?
Also, you'd be wrong again. Most people when they think of millennials think of Y1 more than they do Y2. Or, more specifically, millennial is often the go-to term by old people to just refer to "college kids" which are now Gen Z.
Thank you for proving my point on inconsistency though. As well as the fact they lack clear definitions. It sounds like Australia has some nonsensical split in them and a wider range of years while the US has no nonsensical split and less years.
Its not a nonsensical split, generational gaps are based on a catalyst which I explained.
Y1 technological shift, Y2 social political. Take for example boomers, its was an economic shift, post war kids in a booming economy shaped everything abotu their mindset and their behaviour.
Ahh so that's what this is about, getting called a millenial, lol
Also most people would be wrong, just because most people dont understand or know what defines a generational shift doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
Even the source I stated above which I thought most supported your side of the argument doesn't agree with where you draw the lines for when the generation starts and ends. Doesn't state any difference between gen Y and millennials. Then proceeds to call them arbitrary.
It's like you're ignoring everything I said. Following it up with a "most people would be wrong" is fucking retarded too. Because like I said, generations are made up by the media with no consistency and media groups just argue about them back and forth until they find a middle ground to agree upon. Then when the young generation they spent all their hating on grows up, they move on to create a new one to complain about.
I will say though, the staying power of the word "millennial" is incredible. It's still the most common thing to call young people despite the fact that millennials are now in their 30s.
Because like I said, generations are made up by the media with no consistency and media groups just argue about them back and forth until they find a middle ground to agree upon.
Focus. They are not arbitary, there are very specific guidlines on what constitutes a generational gap hence why they don't start on the decade and may go for longer or less than decades. e.g. affordable home computing had a huge gap on young adults, they came out accross the world at different times, hence the lack of concensus. Also most people are retards and talk wihtout knowing pretty much anything regarding generations let alone gen Y.
Lets just say a war happened, lets just say a world war happened, lets just call it WWII. Lets just say those people came back home from war torn Europe and fucked like rabbits and created an entirely new generation. Lets just say there was a baby boom, a obsenstiably new generation different from their parents with an entirely new outlook on life, with all their needs catered for in a booming economy. Lets just call this new generation Baby boomers.
Lets just say this birth explosion happened after the war in 1946 and continued to boom (antonym of depression) for decades as everything got cheaper and more affordable and people could take advantage of that to have more kids.
It is almost as if we can definitely and not arbitrarily associate different generations with key paradigm shifts that intrinsically and specifically categorise a group of people, that continue until another marked shift comes along to change people's perspectives.
Like I said these paradigm shifts can be economic, political, social, cultural or technological.
You are just pissy at being a millennial. It's alright bro, I don't think you are a danger hair demi-kin.
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I had a good laugh about it anyway.
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[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 25, 2022 16:40:11 ago (+0/-0)
C'mon it was mildly amusing.
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[ - ] throwawayaccount 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 25, 2022 22:39:47 ago (+0/-0)
You think this doesn't make sense? Because it doesn't. They are arbitrarily drawn lines.
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[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 26, 2022 06:58:22 ago (+0/-0)
They are based on a significant shift in technology, economics, sociological or cultural differing values that separates groups. Boomers went on for some thirty years whilst gen Y is barely a decade.
It makes sense, you just need to know what paradigm was responsible for a significant enough shift in generational outlook to classify a later group as another entity.
I'm sure I've posted about this before on tlol, if not on old voat.
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[ - ] throwawayaccount 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 26, 2022 07:58:04 ago (+0/-0)*
No official organization anywhere actually defines generations. No census bureau or government agency of any kind. They are terms created in the media and they either catch on or don't. Then it's a matter of the media arguing back and forth where they should start and end until they come upon an agreement.
Even then, they're usually bad about it. Here's one example:
Here's another:
A third:
Oh, here's a fourth. This one actually brings up that Y1 and Y2 split you mentioned that until I read your comment I had never heard about.
Gen X: Gen X was born between 1965 and 1979/80 and is currently between 41-56 years old
Gen Y: Gen Y, or Millennials, were born between 1981 and 1994/6. They are currently between 25 and 40 years old
Gen Y.1 = 25-29 years old
Gen Y.2 = 29-39
Gen Z: Gen Z is the newest generation, born between 1997 and 2012. They are currently between 9 and 24 years old
Gen A: Generation Alpha starts with children born in 2012 and will continue at least through 2025, maybe later
Do you notice that it's inconsistent as fuck?
Edit: Lol; I scrolled down on that last one which can be found here: https://www.kasasa.com/exchange/articles/generations/gen-x-gen-y-gen-z and it straight up says
So the one that mentions your Gen Y1 and Y2 split straight up calls them arbitrary.
I acquired all of these by clicking the first handful of links on the front page of Jewgle when searching for "gen y"
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[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 26, 2022 08:14:14 ago (+0/-0)
The reason for this is Y1 was a technological shift (first home computers and Internet access) marked a significant change that created a new generation.
Y2 was a cultural shift (Social marxism, BLM, faggotry and every other ism is the stereotype of this sub group)
Y is between about '77-98 (Y1 is about 45-35yrs old) Y2 the rest 34 - to late 20s.
It is significant enough they split the generation in two for this reason.
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[ - ] throwawayaccount 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 26, 2022 08:18:28 ago (+0/-0)
Also, you'd be wrong again. Most people when they think of millennials think of Y1 more than they do Y2. Or, more specifically, millennial is often the go-to term by old people to just refer to "college kids" which are now Gen Z.
Thank you for proving my point on inconsistency though. As well as the fact they lack clear definitions. It sounds like Australia has some nonsensical split in them and a wider range of years while the US has no nonsensical split and less years.
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[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 26, 2022 08:22:45 ago (+0/-0)
Y1 technological shift, Y2 social political. Take for example boomers, its was an economic shift, post war kids in a booming economy shaped everything abotu their mindset and their behaviour.
Ahh so that's what this is about, getting called a millenial, lol
Also most people would be wrong, just because most people dont understand or know what defines a generational shift doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
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[ - ] throwawayaccount 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 26, 2022 08:39:00 ago (+0/-0)
It's like you're ignoring everything I said. Following it up with a "most people would be wrong" is fucking retarded too. Because like I said, generations are made up by the media with no consistency and media groups just argue about them back and forth until they find a middle ground to agree upon. Then when the young generation they spent all their hating on grows up, they move on to create a new one to complain about.
I will say though, the staying power of the word "millennial" is incredible. It's still the most common thing to call young people despite the fact that millennials are now in their 30s.
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[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 26, 2022 08:54:31 ago (+0/-0)
Focus. They are not arbitary, there are very specific guidlines on what constitutes a generational gap hence why they don't start on the decade and may go for longer or less than decades.
e.g. affordable home computing had a huge gap on young adults, they came out accross the world at different times, hence the lack of concensus. Also most people are retards and talk wihtout knowing pretty much anything regarding generations let alone gen Y.
Lets just say a war happened, lets just say a world war happened, lets just call it WWII. Lets just say those people came back home from war torn Europe and fucked like rabbits and created an entirely new generation. Lets just say there was a baby boom, a obsenstiably new generation different from their parents with an entirely new outlook on life, with all their needs catered for in a booming economy. Lets just call this new generation Baby boomers.
Lets just say this birth explosion happened after the war in 1946 and continued to boom (antonym of depression) for decades as everything got cheaper and more affordable and people could take advantage of that to have more kids.
It is almost as if we can definitely and not arbitrarily associate different generations with key paradigm shifts that intrinsically and specifically categorise a group of people, that continue until another marked shift comes along to change people's perspectives.
Like I said these paradigm shifts can be economic, political, social, cultural or technological.
You are just pissy at being a millennial. It's alright bro, I don't think you are a danger hair demi-kin.
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