As Geert Wilders has said, we need to normalize blasphemy for these people. We need to insult the prophet until they get that it isn’t their right to decapitate people for it. Poor Indian tailor was decapitated recently for supporting Nupur Sharma in India, who simply stating what is in the Hadiths
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 8, 2022 17:51:32 ago (+1/-0)
Pakistan was cleaved off from India for exactly this reason. Vast majority of Christian and Hindus left Pakistan when this happened. Of course a lot of Muzzies stayed in India, because they know Hinduism isn't violently supremacist like Islam is.
We need them to all get the fuck back where they came from and then they can shit on each other all they want. Do I feel bad for this man? Sure but it's not my circus, nor my monkeys.
"We need to normalize blasphemy for white westerners. We need to insult Jesus Christ and all of the things they hold sacred until they realize it isn't their right to shoah people for it."
I don’t mean normalize blasphemy of christian god or any other god, other than muslims, until they stop executing people for it. When people insult allah and the prophet all the time they will have to stop beheading people over it.
There is no other way to stop muslims from beheading people over blasphemy. Unless you have a better more practical solution. There are no laws against blasphemy against the christian god or jesus and noone ever gets beheaded over it. Do you now want to impose a law against it?
This is the second person to be beheaded in about 2 weeks. All because Nupur Sharma stated what is in the hadiths, that Muhamed had sex with a 9 year old. She is now being prosecuted in INDIA for incitement. How long until that is happening here?
I think you've got to conduct yourself with an equal level of rigor and violence as your greatest enemy, until you've eliminated that enemy. What I'm saying is that Muslims are responding one way to the normalization of blasphemy, or to what they consider as any indication that it could possibly become normalized. They kill the people that do it. This is remarkably effective.
Meanwhile, here in the west, we'd like a more liberal and sophisticated kind of 'social contract' that relies not on dogmatism primarily, but on mutual respect for human rights, etc. etc.
Guess what Islam doesn't give a fuck about? Any of that.
It's similar to the problem we have with niggers. We can't ever expect their behaviors to change because white, European ways of doing things are better and they (niggers) can be incentivized to think so. It's an impasse.
Similarly, Islam has become this way largely because of its solidarity against outside enemies, namely Christians and Jews. And if we can put ourselves in their shoes, well, they are mounting the level of rigor and violence they believe will preserve their way of life and the maintenance of their values. Again, it's pretty effective against the same kind of 'normalization' that Jews have been using to slowly chip away at white, western values for over a century. We allow the kind of speech that promotes this slide. Islam doesn't.
I'm saying that when there is a threat, you must gird yourself in whatever way is necessary to overcome what you expect to be the irreducible violence level of that threat - until that threat is gone. We aren't going to ''Murika Constiutionalize' Muslims. We just aren't. What you're insinuating we ought to do to Muslims is exactly what Jewish influence has done to the west, i.e. normalizing tolerance of X, Y, or Z. Normalize tolerance of sexual liberation. Normalize tolerance of drugs. Normalize tolerance of other religion, and normalize tolerance of relativism itself. Normalize the norm of diversity. You are essentially saying, "Let's Jew the Muslim".
Israel has used the US like a fucking bull dog against the Islamic world for more than a half-century. They've been getting rockets and white phosphorus dropped on their kids at night, for decades. Do you actually think this is going to be about normalizing tolerance for them, of listening to blasphemy against their God?
Let's give you eight years under an Obama presidency with 26,000 bombs dropped, let's melt your child's face off, and then see how effective normalizing tolerance is with you. You're going to tell me to stick tolerance up my ass, before you cut my head off.
We aren't getting beyond the Muslim problem by living side-by-side with them and slowly indoctrinating them with white social trust. What little trust they had naturally is burned up. Now they're a force, a threat. And we don't survive unless we conduct ourselves with the requisite rigor and violence to put our enemy down first. Then once we have the environment that makes our high-social-trust permissible, we resume, or start over, or what have you.
But at this point it's a cat that's been let out of the bag. The Jew has created several different kinds of violent golems to use against the white race, such that in addition to the Jewish root-problem, we've got several others now, including niggers and Muslims. We're in a heap of shit.
The idea of living side-by-side with Muslims peaceably so as to socially train them in western values is nothing more than an illusion that is currently hanging by threads. You could kill every Jew on the planet, but at some point the force of Islam will confront us with its violence. That violence will not be trained out of them, at this point, with social slaps on the wrist. It's at a point that even if we resorted to eye-for-an-eye strategies against their intolerance, we'd kill one or a few, but this would only galvanize the intrinsic violence of the whole.
Oh hey I’d love to deport them immediately. Barring that, this is the best way to punish them. Any deference to their blasphemy traditions is a reward that causes more violence. They are here for now and they are all over India. Geert has gone out of his way to support Hindus in the wake of the Nupur Sharma controversy and he is right . Every time somene gets beheaded over this shit everyone in the world should post an unflattering depiction of their prophet. You can’t train a mean dog to be nice. But you’re saying we can’t teach it to understand a stick.
I think you're making a crucial error. For the sake of simplicity, let's talk about monotheistic religious traditions like they are individual persons. Islam is a person.
Your mistake is assuming that Islam is a rational agent - in the modern sense of the term rational. So you think that if Islam beheads someone for blasphemy, and if every other non-Muslim does the blasphemous act together in unison, Islam is going to do the rational thing of essentially admitting 'when in Rome'. After all, it's absurd that one could engage in the kind of violent act of beheading against tens of millions of people, right. This is pretty basic quantification, the kind of logic any grade-schooler is capable of doing.
But this is not how religions behave. If anything, history has shown that the greater the perceived external threat, the greater the solidarity it promotes within the religious in-group, making them even harder, like a metal that strengthens under various stresses.
Consider that guy, Christianity. His savior was killed, humiliated, and died a petty criminal's death. This was the very cloth Christianity was cut from.
Consider that dude, Judaism. 109 countries and it only solidified their ethnic identity and their internal narrative history of them-against-us.
There is no reason to presume that Islam will be any different.
They can't stop beheading people. It's the word of their god and they will always go back to god.
It's the fucking liberals who think their voice is bigger than gods. They're incredibly wrong. Don't copy them. They're willing to die to keep their bigger than god religion in their own heads.
If you look at any religion, there are parts of it that conflict with other parts. The culture decides which parts of a religion it will enforce or practice and which parts it will ignore.
Islam can be watered down just like all the other religions. You can train the people to fell that beheading are backwards and embarrassing. Muslims tend to be more violent and vengeful but give them a taste of civilized comfort and they will loose much of their appetite for violence. Their other problem is polygamy. Po.ygamy leads to high male violence after several generations. But either they will become more monogamous or we whites will become more polygamous in which case we will become as violent as them.
I didn't know it was an old thread until I hit post.
An iskam has been cutting off heads since it started. Whatever a culture decides the scripture will eventually cancel because is bigger than you or your opinion
i'm not one of those 'please archive everything' pedants.. but if the link is dailymail.. please archive it.. that site is cancer and attacks your computer with a billion ads and videos
Hinduism once reached all the way to the pacific. Buddhism is practiced from India to Japan. I do think religion can be the back door to oppression and subjugation from foreigners, assimilation with foreigners.. But there are examples of this that are not jewish and did not end disasterously.
Besides, remember that the aryan religions were the religions of the conquerors. Norse and Greek and Celtic pagan religions did not spring up spontaneously. They were imposed just like christianity.
I think his poorly written point makes more sense as racial religion being a source of strength rather than the lack of it dooming you to disaster. Obviously it's the jewish influence facilitating that part.
aryan religions were the religions of the conquerors
Eh, not exactly. Yngvi/Frey for example, is said to have been an actual king of who was extremely well loved and who brought great prosperity. When he died and they started going through bad times they started giving offerings and sacrifice to him. Same with Wotan, I've read theories that he was also a successful and well loved king who lead his people from what are today slavic areas to the germanic areas of Europe and was eventually immortalized as a God. There is a racial element built in, worshiping your ancestors, worshiping your Gods, worshiping your own blood - there's a sense that these all mean the same thing. It helps to realize that much of the conquered/ conquerors in the ancient Aryan world were already related.
With regards to having those Gods imposed, what I've read implies the logic in the Germanic areas was more like "they beat us so their God is clearly a strong one, let's see what he'll do for us alongside our other Gods." And then some would grow more or less popular over time. Romans enforced the Roman religion but they were happy to fit in new Gods of people they conquered to try and keep everyone living in harmony.
I'm not aware of religions other than the Abrahamics who really go hard on apostasy.
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[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 8, 2022 13:44:28 ago (+1/-0)
Only practical option is to neutralize when necessary.
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[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO -1 points 1.8 yearsJul 8, 2022 10:47:17 ago (+1/-2)
- literally the Jewish race
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 1.8 yearsJul 8, 2022 12:07:24 ago (+3/-0)
There is no other way to stop muslims from beheading people over blasphemy. Unless you have a better more practical solution. There are no laws against blasphemy against the christian god or jesus and noone ever gets beheaded over it. Do you now want to impose a law against it?
This is the second person to be beheaded in about 2 weeks. All because Nupur Sharma stated what is in the hadiths, that Muhamed had sex with a 9 year old. She is now being prosecuted in INDIA for incitement. How long until that is happening here?
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 8, 2022 13:46:46 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 8, 2022 14:33:22 ago (+0/-0)*
Meanwhile, here in the west, we'd like a more liberal and sophisticated kind of 'social contract' that relies not on dogmatism primarily, but on mutual respect for human rights, etc. etc.
Guess what Islam doesn't give a fuck about? Any of that.
It's similar to the problem we have with niggers. We can't ever expect their behaviors to change because white, European ways of doing things are better and they (niggers) can be incentivized to think so. It's an impasse.
Similarly, Islam has become this way largely because of its solidarity against outside enemies, namely Christians and Jews. And if we can put ourselves in their shoes, well, they are mounting the level of rigor and violence they believe will preserve their way of life and the maintenance of their values. Again, it's pretty effective against the same kind of 'normalization' that Jews have been using to slowly chip away at white, western values for over a century. We allow the kind of speech that promotes this slide. Islam doesn't.
I'm saying that when there is a threat, you must gird yourself in whatever way is necessary to overcome what you expect to be the irreducible violence level of that threat - until that threat is gone. We aren't going to ''Murika Constiutionalize' Muslims. We just aren't. What you're insinuating we ought to do to Muslims is exactly what Jewish influence has done to the west, i.e. normalizing tolerance of X, Y, or Z. Normalize tolerance of sexual liberation. Normalize tolerance of drugs. Normalize tolerance of other religion, and normalize tolerance of relativism itself. Normalize the norm of diversity. You are essentially saying, "Let's Jew the Muslim".
Israel has used the US like a fucking bull dog against the Islamic world for more than a half-century. They've been getting rockets and white phosphorus dropped on their kids at night, for decades. Do you actually think this is going to be about normalizing tolerance for them, of listening to blasphemy against their God?
Let's give you eight years under an Obama presidency with 26,000 bombs dropped, let's melt your child's face off, and then see how effective normalizing tolerance is with you. You're going to tell me to stick tolerance up my ass, before you cut my head off.
We aren't getting beyond the Muslim problem by living side-by-side with them and slowly indoctrinating them with white social trust. What little trust they had naturally is burned up. Now they're a force, a threat. And we don't survive unless we conduct ourselves with the requisite rigor and violence to put our enemy down first. Then once we have the environment that makes our high-social-trust permissible, we resume, or start over, or what have you.
But at this point it's a cat that's been let out of the bag. The Jew has created several different kinds of violent golems to use against the white race, such that in addition to the Jewish root-problem, we've got several others now, including niggers and Muslims. We're in a heap of shit.
The idea of living side-by-side with Muslims peaceably so as to socially train them in western values is nothing more than an illusion that is currently hanging by threads. You could kill every Jew on the planet, but at some point the force of Islam will confront us with its violence. That violence will not be trained out of them, at this point, with social slaps on the wrist. It's at a point that even if we resorted to eye-for-an-eye strategies against their intolerance, we'd kill one or a few, but this would only galvanize the intrinsic violence of the whole.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 8, 2022 15:09:04 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 8, 2022 15:38:09 ago (+0/-0)
Your mistake is assuming that Islam is a rational agent - in the modern sense of the term rational. So you think that if Islam beheads someone for blasphemy, and if every other non-Muslim does the blasphemous act together in unison, Islam is going to do the rational thing of essentially admitting 'when in Rome'. After all, it's absurd that one could engage in the kind of violent act of beheading against tens of millions of people, right. This is pretty basic quantification, the kind of logic any grade-schooler is capable of doing.
But this is not how religions behave. If anything, history has shown that the greater the perceived external threat, the greater the solidarity it promotes within the religious in-group, making them even harder, like a metal that strengthens under various stresses.
Consider that guy, Christianity. His savior was killed, humiliated, and died a petty criminal's death. This was the very cloth Christianity was cut from.
Consider that dude, Judaism. 109 countries and it only solidified their ethnic identity and their internal narrative history of them-against-us.
There is no reason to presume that Islam will be any different.
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 8 monthsAug 5, 2023 02:08:42 ago (+0/-0)
It's the fucking liberals who think their voice is bigger than gods. They're incredibly wrong. Don't copy them. They're willing to die to keep their bigger than god religion in their own heads.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 5, 2023 08:15:44 ago (+0/-0)
If you look at any religion, there are parts of it that conflict with other parts. The culture decides which parts of a religion it will enforce or practice and which parts it will ignore.
Islam can be watered down just like all the other religions. You can train the people to fell that beheading are backwards and embarrassing. Muslims tend to be more violent and vengeful but give them a taste of civilized comfort and they will loose much of their appetite for violence. Their other problem is polygamy. Po.ygamy leads to high male violence after several generations. But either they will become more monogamous or we whites will become more polygamous in which case we will become as violent as them.
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 8 monthsAug 5, 2023 20:06:36 ago (+0/-0)
An iskam has been cutting off heads since it started. Whatever a culture decides the scripture will eventually cancel because is bigger than you or your opinion
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[ - ] SecretHitler 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 19, 2023 05:26:36 ago (+0/-0)
We want to dominate this fight, not avoid it because it sounds mean or because we don't like being on the losing end of it.
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Fixed your typo
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But that's what I said!
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If anyone can be ((( ISLAM)
If anyone can be ((( CHRISTIAN )))
then you don't have a commonality based around RACE
its then dress code , language and ((( REGION )))
[ + ] PostWallHelena
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Besides, remember that the aryan religions were the religions of the conquerors. Norse and Greek and Celtic pagan religions did not spring up spontaneously. They were imposed just like christianity.
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 0 points 1.3 yearsJan 19, 2023 06:07:11 ago (+0/-0)
Eh, not exactly. Yngvi/Frey for example, is said to have been an actual king of who was extremely well loved and who brought great prosperity. When he died and they started going through bad times they started giving offerings and sacrifice to him. Same with Wotan, I've read theories that he was also a successful and well loved king who lead his people from what are today slavic areas to the germanic areas of Europe and was eventually immortalized as a God. There is a racial element built in, worshiping your ancestors, worshiping your Gods, worshiping your own blood - there's a sense that these all mean the same thing. It helps to realize that much of the conquered/ conquerors in the ancient Aryan world were already related.
With regards to having those Gods imposed, what I've read implies the logic in the Germanic areas was more like "they beat us so their God is clearly a strong one, let's see what he'll do for us alongside our other Gods." And then some would grow more or less popular over time. Romans enforced the Roman religion but they were happy to fit in new Gods of people they conquered to try and keep everyone living in harmony.
I'm not aware of religions other than the Abrahamics who really go hard on apostasy.