Some random facts (I have studied this exact issue in great detail)
Per the Heritage or Yale reports, (and California budgeting office) there are 50-80 million illegals in country.
Currently there are 240k a month coming across the southern border of the US per gov numbers. DHS says 3 to 1 or up to 5 to 1 do not make "administrative contacts" and are "get-a-ways" So the real number is about 700k- to a mill a month now are moving across the border.
In Sanctuary cities and states, Illegals can get State ID cards or drivers licenses.
These come with a TIN. This allows illegals full access to all social services and benefits.
many states have programs through government funded NGO's (cali, WASH, maine. to to name a few) that allow non tined illegals to get benefits. And since its a private NGO, no reporting has to happen.
Illegals put much compression on the low end housing market. (those 50-80 million folks have to live somewhere) Cutting out low income americasn (collage kids, part timers min wage folks, etc)
California (the fifth biggest econnomie in the world) spends 1/3 of each yearly budget on "migrant services" Wash spends about 1/7th Imagine what other sanctuary states spend?
Anchor babies bring another adv 5 people along with them through "chain immigration"
The UK immigration report estimated it takes 8 generations for converted illegals or first gen migrant families to get fully off of all types of benefits and be a net positive to a society.
2 and 3rd gen migrants tend to become HIGHLY radicalized (think La-raza or the Muslim fundies)
Lots of spending on illegals gets hidden: Case in point. My state, a very poor state, just had to spend 100 mill on one new school for the "migrants" and staff it with native speaking teachers (who are very expensive) so the kids could learn in their own language and "not be left behind". This came out of the general school budget. Then the rest of us had to pass emergency spending levies to fund the existing schools.
Lots of localities have to have new water systems, expanded fire services, new sewer systems, upgraded power grids to support these folks. This cost taxpayers $$$ in additional local taxes.
This kind of spending is never accounted for.
Illegals don't pay taxes (well about 1/4 of them do) and they all pay use taxes. About 60% of all monies they make, get sent back to their home counties. So trickle down or captured economic processes don't work.
MUCH, MUCH , MUCH higher crime stats across the board...then natives.
Whites (non-hispanic) are down to 57.8% as of 2020, and it was 89.3% back in 1950.
If we had the same percentage as back then without all the immigration, the US population of 335 million would instead be 217 million (194m white, 23m non-white).
Think how much cheaper everything would be without having to support half the population being freeloaders, or how cheap land would be, or how much more space and natural resources we would have.
We need an influx of white and Japanese illigals at least they are productive, but it's practically illigal for whites to immigrate now... South africa is a recent example of that
Open up your fucking wallet and Y O U pay for all your illegals you love so much, otherwise shut the fuck up. Better yet I'll buy you a one way ticket to mehico, ok?
You are deflecting. You said no services without an SSN. As soon as they crank out a kid that kid becomes a citizen with a SSN and starts collecting benefits, and immigrants do this (collect benefits) at a higher rate per capita than people who were here all along. But you know this. Stop acting like a fuckin jew.
Wrong. They get emergency food stamps card and then use that as ID to apply for public assistance. Most of them are on welfare. I see them with the EBT cards all the time.
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Per the Heritage or Yale reports, (and California budgeting office) there are 50-80 million illegals in country.
Currently there are 240k a month coming across the southern border of the US per gov numbers. DHS says 3 to 1 or up to 5 to 1 do not make "administrative contacts" and are "get-a-ways" So the real number is about 700k- to a mill a month now are moving across the border.
In Sanctuary cities and states, Illegals can get State ID cards or drivers licenses.
These come with a TIN. This allows illegals full access to all social services and benefits.
many states have programs through government funded NGO's (cali, WASH, maine. to to name a few) that allow non tined illegals to get benefits. And since its a private NGO, no reporting has to happen.
Illegals put much compression on the low end housing market. (those 50-80 million folks have to live somewhere) Cutting out low income americasn (collage kids, part timers min wage folks, etc)
California (the fifth biggest econnomie in the world) spends 1/3 of each yearly budget on "migrant services" Wash spends about 1/7th Imagine what other sanctuary states spend?
Anchor babies bring another adv 5 people along with them through "chain immigration"
The UK immigration report estimated it takes 8 generations for converted illegals or first gen migrant families to get fully off of all types of benefits and be a net positive to a society.
2 and 3rd gen migrants tend to become HIGHLY radicalized (think La-raza or the Muslim fundies)
Lots of spending on illegals gets hidden: Case in point. My state, a very poor state, just had to spend 100 mill on one new school for the "migrants" and staff it with native speaking teachers (who are very expensive) so the kids could learn in their own language and "not be left behind". This came out of the general school budget. Then the rest of us had to pass emergency spending levies to fund the existing schools.
Lots of localities have to have new water systems, expanded fire services, new sewer systems, upgraded power grids to support these folks. This cost taxpayers $$$ in additional local taxes.
This kind of spending is never accounted for.
Illegals don't pay taxes (well about 1/4 of them do) and they all pay use taxes. About 60% of all monies they make, get sent back to their home counties. So trickle down or captured economic processes don't work.
MUCH, MUCH , MUCH higher crime stats across the board...then natives.
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Whites (non-hispanic) are down to 57.8% as of 2020, and it was 89.3% back in 1950.
If we had the same percentage as back then without all the immigration, the US population of 335 million would instead be 217 million (194m white, 23m non-white).
Think how much cheaper everything would be without having to support half the population being freeloaders, or how cheap land would be, or how much more space and natural resources we would have.
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Y O U pay for all your illegals you love so much, otherwise shut the fuck up. Better yet I'll buy you a one way ticket to mehico, ok?
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