"I agree totally we have had a global temperature increase in the 20thC – but an increase from what? ..Probably an increase from the lowest point in the last 10,000 years. We started to observe meteorology at the coldest point in the last 10,000 years."
So let's just ignore the discussion about man made. Lets just draw some inferences
We can see on his chart that most of the last 10,000 years the temp was around 2 degrees. So we can now ask a few questions that should be provable relating to the rest of the current environmental hype -
Do animals experience large extinctions with a couple degree temp increase? I'm guessing that the fossil records will say no
Does mass flooding occur which will "eliminate coastal cities"? Again, I don't know but I've never seen published science showing obvious patterns that this happened for most of the last 10k years
Did this higher temp cause any calculable damage we should be worried about? Damage our ancestors of 6k+ years ago managed to survive through, but which modern humans couldn't? It seems highly, highly, unlikely.
Just a few side points that came up while watching some of the plots from these scientists. It's incredible how far a little bit of critical thinking can get you. Too bad they want to eliminate critical thinking in the populace and it's working.
Yeah CO2 doesn’t correlate that well to global temperature. There are dozens of other drivers of temperature. Sea levels don’t correlate well to CO2 either.
CO2 has historically been much higher for long periods and it’s not really catastrophic if it doubles or quadruples because it’s so low right now.
80 million years ago CO2 was near 2000ppm, which is breathable (though not ideal). 60 million years ago it was around 800 ppm which is when early primates started to appear. Twice what it is now. It was like 2 deg C warmer then.
The climate will change a little bit. Its always changing. Deserts will expand and tundra will contract. New areas will become habitable. Thats always true. Plants will grow faster as carbon rises.
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[ - ] giantprick 3 points 2.8 yearsJul 5, 2022 12:37:37 ago (+3/-0)
We can see on his chart that most of the last 10,000 years the temp was around 2 degrees. So we can now ask a few questions that should be provable relating to the rest of the current environmental hype -
Do animals experience large extinctions with a couple degree temp increase? I'm guessing that the fossil records will say no
Does mass flooding occur which will "eliminate coastal cities"? Again, I don't know but I've never seen published science showing obvious patterns that this happened for most of the last 10k years
Did this higher temp cause any calculable damage we should be worried about? Damage our ancestors of 6k+ years ago managed to survive through, but which modern humans couldn't? It seems highly, highly, unlikely.
Just a few side points that came up while watching some of the plots from these scientists. It's incredible how far a little bit of critical thinking can get you. Too bad they want to eliminate critical thinking in the populace and it's working.
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[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2.8 yearsJul 5, 2022 18:53:13 ago (+2/-0)
CO2 has historically been much higher for long periods and it’s not really catastrophic if it doubles or quadruples because it’s so low right now.
80 million years ago CO2 was near 2000ppm, which is breathable (though not ideal). 60 million years ago it was around 800 ppm which is when early primates started to appear. Twice what it is now. It was like 2 deg C warmer then.
The climate will change a little bit. Its always changing. Deserts will expand and tundra will contract. New areas will become habitable. Thats always true. Plants will grow faster as carbon rises.
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If carbon is the problem why arent we building nuclear plants?