Next year the federal government is enforcing a change to HVAC energy efficiency rating system, and in 2025 they enforcing a "green" freon change.
All of the major manufacturers are having to redesign ALL of their equipment to meet these new efficiency ratings and most of them have decided that since they are going to have to re-redesign these systems in 2 years because of the required freon changes in 2025 they are going to go ahead and implement that freon change next year as well. In other words commie faggots are making home ownership more expensive for the sake of "going green"
Since march of 2020 the holocough hoax and soaring inflation have caused HVAC equipment to increase ~60% across all brands. Now with the fed's requiring effeciency and freon changes you are looking at another 50% increase in prices.
So that means if a new central HVAC system (not counting labor cost for install) would have cost you 3k in 2019 at the start of 2023 is going to cost you over 6k. That also means all the materials the tech was going to use to install that has gone up.
Buy now if you can, the new equipment will be full of problems in the fist year, it always is and it will be outragously priced.
FYI: Trane brand is already planing to implement equipment leasing....
[ - ] goatfugee12 [op] 1 point 1.8 yearsJun 28, 2022 17:37:00 ago (+1/-0)
I find this doubtful, unless you are talking about a mini split with precharged lines you didn't spend $2000 on tools to use once. Unless ofc you had help from some one with trade specific tools.
they haven't made R22 in the states since Jan 1 of 2020. It's still out there but is up about 400% since march 2020. There are replacements out there but those are also up 200-400%
R-22 Freon has been illegal for fucking years! They make a different version of it. They will have a compatible solution in place long before they ban it. Make no mistake. Take HVAC away from the rich, there will be consequences.
Here in California we are using a substitute and it had some stumbles, you would never know the difference now. Its even cheaper than R22.
Gonna need some sources for that, dawg. Not because I care this time but because I wanna read up on it. Why? Because I literally replaced mine last week.
R600 Isobutane for your refrigerator and R454B Puron Advance for heat pumps and air conditioners. Both flammable. Supposedly zero ozone depletion rates. 454B is not a drop in replacement and lacks the efficiency of 410A. Prepare for setting the thermostat higher or risk a seized or inefficient compressor.
Go study for the EPA 608 exam. The type 1 test is open book and the license will allow you to buy refrigerant. Obviously there's more to it and there are laws concerning the transportation of refrigerants. Then find an hvac guy you can slip a 20 spot to who can recharge your system with the refrigerant you have on hand. Hope that helps. But its total hippie bullshit.
I actually live in the middle of nowhere and don't give a shit what the government thinks. But I do have a house in the PNW that I go to for the summer, and this is good advice...so long as I keep that house....
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Here in California we are using a substitute and it had some stumbles, you would never know the difference now. Its even cheaper than R22.
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Go study for the EPA 608 exam. The type 1 test is open book and the license will allow you to buy refrigerant. Obviously there's more to it and there are laws concerning the transportation of refrigerants. Then find an hvac guy you can slip a 20 spot to who can recharge your system with the refrigerant you have on hand. Hope that helps. But its total hippie bullshit.
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