Property tax on first home is bullshit. Tax on second home or more is rational, because it's not a need. Only the first home is a need, therefore a human right. Countries that have first home tax are ruled by pieces of shit who steal citizen's money.
My dad who is a boomer I realized might be retarded says how else can we educate the masses... I'm like who give sa shit if you are sto stupid you won't pay to have your kid educated then fuck yiu and why do I have to pay to educate my completion who then gets benefits for being a poc Ora pos is reality, so some stupid fuck from the ghettog gets into college over my kid when my taxes paid for their basic education..
It is total bullshit
Join my group.. hate... homeowners against taxes everywhere
Get a copy of the city and county budget and see how they are spending you tax money if you really want to get pissed off. Then run for city council, county commissioner and really make your voice heard. Nothing will happen just ranting on the interwebs.
Taxes are theft, especially when that money isn't used for the people providing it.
Housing isn't a right or you'd have it for free easily and automatically.
Building that house costs someone something, which means it's not a right.
Rights are free and don't cost anyone anything. Like freedom of speech, it doesn't cost anything to anyone else for me to say I don't like non-Whites. Wheras a house built by myself or others did come at a cost.
Houses dont have to take multiple people. Your adding unnecessary stipulations and expectations to excuse shitty ideas.
A man has an absolute right to find some land, make it his own, and build and own his own home, without some kikes taking a cut. Everyone has this right.
You wanna live like some chink in a squalor pods stacked a thousand high because you dont believe people have the right to their own land and homes, so you think its okay when BlackRock buys all land and homes and everyone rents from jews now, then you can go ahead and just fuck off out of white lands where people will have rights someday. Go to china.
The problem is that can’t happen if all land is claimed. I support people holding land out of use by humans, so long as they pay to exclude others. If they don’t, they don’t get to bitch or call the cops if people take it over.
Agreed with claimed land being an issue. I support private property to the extreme of "this is my mountain, fuck off". The solution is less people. We do not need to be a plague, we can exist in equilibrium with thr world around us. Massive numbers are not the way forward, til we have other planets to spread to at least.
I don't agree with it either, but ultimately the government says they own all the land and they lease it to us under the guise of taxes.
The right of land ownership falls to whomever is willing to kill for it. The problem comes in with the government having stooges to kill and die at the governments behest with the most advanced tech we have currently. While we are defending our home by ourselves.
As it should. If you’re holding land out of use, then someone else has to rent or pay you to get out of the way. Also land’s market price is primarily determined by location (which the owner didn’t create) or natural resources (which the owner didn’t create.)
Youre a retard. If I bought it and own it then everyone else can get fucked. Its none of anyones business what I do on my land. Especially the governments. Get fucked, nigger.
If I'm a nigger, then you're a jew. People love to bitch about usury, but are fine with rent-seeking. The ironic thing is that, if rent was taxed at full value, the purchase price and, more importantly, SPECULATIVE price of land would be almost zero which would give banks far less power to charge interest.
Anyways, just because someone bought something doesn't mean it SHOULD be a valid form of property or free of all encumbrances. An example of the former would be purchasing slaves - people paid good money for them after all. An example of the latter would be something like restrictions on offshore drilling where someone buys the rights, but they are still restricted in certain ways in obtaining the oil.
Whats wrong with renting someone land I purchased? If they want it and cant afford to buy then where else are they supposed to live? Shanty towns or the streets? Do you expect the government to house everyone? If property didnt get taxed so fucking much rent would be significantly cheaper all around. As things are a lot of properties dont make financial sense simply because the taxes on them eat away all the profits. Thats not even considering the tax on rent income.
Nothing is wrong with renting to others, but rent is the same either way because you can only charge what the market will bear. There should be no taxes on your house or improvements or income.
[ - ] VoatGoat 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 16:50:27 ago (+1/-0)
Having a house that you pay for with time or money can be a right. Having a home given to you shouldn’t be since that takes the labor of someone else to provide.
These things are not mutually exclusive. It is your personal responsibility to obtain the things that your rights allow you to get. You have the right to have arms, it is your personal responsibility to obtain those arms. You have the right to have property and a place to live and food to eat, it is your personal responsibility to obtain these things. You don't have the right to steal in order to obtain these things. If someone WANTS to give it to you for free, thats their right. No one has the right to force someone to give anyone anything. This isnt complicated.
I see your misunderstanding after reading the full thread. You think rights must be given for free at all times. This isnt and has never been the case. We have the right to bear arms, arms have really never been free. Rights CAN have a cost, but it has to be reasonable (hence firearm tax stamps being a violation as they are absurdly costly).
You have the right to arms. Not free arms. You also have the right to have a place to live without being taxed or paying rent forever, it doesnt have to be given to you for free though. Since no unclaimed land (worth claiming) is left, it must be fairly bought, as is a persons right to sell their property.
I COULD build a gun by myself for free, just like I COULD build a house by myself for free. So your arguments self invalidate. Especially since no one but you even mentioned getting it for free. If you build a house, and pay 50 amish to help, and buy all the supplies from them, it is irrelevant, you may have built it by yourself for free as far as the government or anyone else is concerned.
Rights are not necessarily "free and dont cost anything" it can have a reasonable entry barrier like purchasing property (but taxes forever on said property are clearly a violation). And other rights are clearly not free, as they must be actively protected and paid for with blood and sweat.
What you're thinking of is rights according to a government. The government saying you have the right to bear arms is the government saying they allow you to bear arms.
If we had an actual right to bear arms we would be born with weapons. Some may argue that we are, given we are born with arms and legs to strike with. Guns and weapons aren't a natural right, but the US government around 1776 knew that as technology advanced that civilians need access to that tech to have a chance against tyranny. It's still not a natural right to have weapons, as there is a cost to the people designing and manufacturing them. If you design and manufacture a gun all by yourself that's an amalgamation between the natural right to defend yourself and the government allowing you to have arms.
You're confusing governmental rights and natural rights.
Considering ive actively argued against government involvement in these rights in my comment, you are simply incorrect in how you understand what ive said.
There is no such thing as governmental rights as far as I'm concerned. We have natural rights, and whatever the government has to say about it be damned. You have the right to pioneer unclaimed lands and settle them tax free and defend them with arms you build, just as you also have the right to make a private purchase of all of these things tax free. Government and their ideas be damned. They can enshrine and protect these rights, which is their only legitimate function, or they are an illegitimate occupation, and we have the right to whatever must be done to remedy the situation.
Im operating off of natural law, not jew-dicial law. Just because the jew controlled government decrees it so, doesnt make it so.
If you are too stupid to understand it so you think it must just be opinions and feelings, then fine, i guess you personally dont have any rights that the government doesnt bless you with. Thats fine. Domt defend yourself, dont speak out of line, exist as they tell you to. You want to relinquish your own rights, i guess you have the right to do so. But you dont get a say in everyone elses, so dont vote for your faggy retarded bullshit.
You stopped listening to me after the original comment. You just sit here waiting to instantly respond with a wall of text. You are now trying to assign typical governmental boot-licking behavior to me, all while I'm doing more than you are to fight against our banana republic.
I have land on which I homestead. I have started my family with more growth planned in the future. I pay less than 200USD a month in taxes. I make or grow almost everything I use. I recruit like minded White people to my area to help them start their own homesteads and learn self sufficiency.
No I didnt, you have displayed a complete lack of understanding of the topic at hand though. And nah, im not waiting around with walls of text, im just not mentally retarded like you so i can express my thoughts quickly.
What do i do? Hmmm, i also homestead. I pay no taxes, cuz fuck the illegitimate government, im not funding my own genocide. I also grow everything i use, along with livestock.
I also do other things i wont discuss here because it is retarded to tell people what you are doing when we are infested with glowniggers and clearly no digital communication is secure. So no, im not incriminating myself. Suffice to say, i promise, i do much more to fix the situation than you do.
So keep being an obtuse moron, its fine. You can choose not to have rights, i certainly wont be helping you get them back since you've given them up by choice.
Its called being intelligent enough to run enough business and make enough purchases correctly filed to write off anything that can be. Take every exemption, make every write off, buy with cash from private sellers who dont charge tax or report sales. Exist as off grid as possible. Find some idiots that refuse to exist this way, and use them for bill paying services. You provide them goods and services in exchange for a phone on their plan. Find someone with land they dont use, make a deal with them to make it useful in exchange again for goods and services. It isnt hard. I may not own explicitly all the land i use, but i am sure not the one paying taxes on it. Sure you could say i pay rent, but it isnt in the traditional sense of the way. I have plenty i produce, and plenty of skill to make of use. I essentially just dont exist in the system.
A firearm isn't free. Punching someone in the face has no monetary cost. So I guess hand to hand self defense is a right but if I purchase a weapon it's no longer a right?
Just saying I don't think your logic holds very well.
Nobody's saying that anyone should be given a house as a right. They're saying people should be permitted to acquire and maintain a house without kike interference.
Anyone who says they don't pay taxes is most likely lying or they own nothing.
If enough people become self sufficient we can starve the beast even more, especially if they work "off the books/under the table", we can get more people available to help our collective future.
There are way too many avenues that gubmints use to tax the people. Income (state and federal) Property (house, car, etc.) Sales Etc., Etc. There should only be one or two ways for the gubmints to collect taxes, and it should be blatantly obvious how much taxes are being paid. There are so many hidden taxes and fees today that most people have no idea how much taxes they are paying.
Have you noticed gubbermint employees NEVER lose their jobs. The gubbermint just increases taxes to subsidize more gubbermint employees. Gubbermint NEVER decreases.
Taxes on international trade, taxes on the meager white immigration we allow once the cleansing is finished, basically, only tax foreigners and their interactions and interests, its a fee we charge them for the privilege of dealing with us.
property tax suck ass, we pay around 3k just in property taxes alone which is a big scam. none of this money goes to real education.
compound the problem with insurance and you have a year round headache. i think this prob affects more our elderly than anybody else since most rely on SS for survival
Don't be a fag. Pay your useriuos jew taxes, buy lots of firearms, ammo and beans, and wait for the day of reckoning to come. Anyone who believes this stupid jew horse shit is real and is going to last forever if a fucking loser of the first order......
I know a guy who spent his life saving buying a doomsday bunker for y2k. The guy is now in his 80s and still working because he literally has to for survival, and we are now 22 years past y2k.
Things can ALWAYS get worse. In the 80s they were saying it couldn't get much worse, and it would collapse anyday now, and here we are.
Property tax isn't needed at all. What we need is for lazy pieces of fucking shit to pay their own way.
Do you want me to read my property tax to you? It goes something like this......
XXXXXX schools 3 mils
XXXXX city admin 2mils
veterans memorial .5 mils
state fund 5 mils
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE TAXES are overblown for what I need/use so that pieces of shit like you can work at kmart, push out five kids and drive an escalade.
NIGGER. Don't fucking talk to me about property taxes motherfucker. Fucking second home my ass! FUCK FUCK FUCK!
I could pay for my childrens education, and fucking choose how they educated, pay for a private fire and police service, pay "just" a road tax for the highways I use and be ten fucking times off better. But no, I have to pay for you pieces of shit too. Fuck you.
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 15:02:38 ago (+1/-0)
Is "homestead" status a thing? In a couple states, declaring your property your homestead is meant to cut a good tax break, then any other property is a "standard" rate.
I get what you're saying though. Boiling frogs since 1913 eventually leads to people born into the system where they've never knew anything better.
[ - ] Laputois 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 08:43:20 ago (+1/-0)
I have advocated to anyone that would listen in every forum I participated to double property taxes and to give those that reside in their homes a homestead exemption of at least 50%. This would eliminate niggers in your community. They would not be able to afford rent. They would migrate to a community with lower hanging fruit.
I think the real misconception is the "free" part.
Dont you believe you do have the right to have a place to live, if you pay for/pioneer for it? Dont you believe you have the right to consume nourishment? Not that you have the right to demand free food, but the right to obtain your own food supply and consume it as you wish? No one should be able to tell you "You are not legally allowed to own a home, and you not legally allowed to eat meat (whatever food)"
You dont have the right to steal from others to obtain these things, but you do have the right the acquire them through legitimate means, and anyone preventing that is definitely violating your natural rights. No one has to give you your rights, and you arnt allowed to violate others rights in pursuit of your own. Seems pretty simple to me.
Of course I do believe you have the right to it, but not in the Marxist way he is implying. He thinks that the rest of us should provide the swear equity of cultivating the food so that it may be dispensed freely to him and other pieces of shit. FUCK THAT NIGGERMINDED KIKE!!!!!!
I just think actively making the distinction is very important. For one, it shows the retarded commie normies that they would have the right to establishing their own success, if it wasnt for the socialism infected government stealing from them stopping them. And two, if you dont make the distinction, you might as well be arguing for the authoritarian take over and taxation and legislation of all property and food etc.
As they are objectively correct when they say we all have the right to these things. However wrong they are if they want to be given these things for free unwillingly from the sweat of others.
It is unfortunate we have to have these nuances, but too many kikes exist that will twist words and purposes to their own wills if we are ambiguous about anything.
Rights should only be to what others don’t have to provide. Houses have to be provided by someone else so shouldn’t be a right. Land is just there, so it can be a right, but then you run up against limits which requires something like a Lockean Provisi.
Jews are so out of touch they don’t know where food and housing come from. They think white people have a magic want for this stuff and we just wave it when we want a house.
I think that the way to fit it in the current crap would we the ability to write off everything related to housing. Utilities, building upkeep (or depreciation), taxes, purchase or mortgage, insurance, etc.
Property tax on the land portion is fair since your reserving a part of the US which needs to be defended and whose primary value is derived from public infrastructure or natural resources you didn’t create.
Property tax on buildings, cars, etc. is straight bullshit.
Get a land patent. You only have color of title. It's similar to how "the king" would own all of the land, and sections of it would go to lords and nobles, who then had peasants working on parts of the land.
As far as I understand, in order to make property taxes unenforceable, you want the land patent over color of title.
If we think about it from a perspective of no income tax or sales tax...it's brillaint. Every single homeowner now has a personal incentive to hold down govt spending. This is why NH is extremely conservative.
Property taxes make sense to a certain extent. E.g., if the area around your property is infested with niggers and police are hired to protect it, the people who have the most square footage to patrol and whose property value attracts the most niggers should pay the largest portion of the salaries.
Property taxes can also make more sense than income tax. Who should pay more-- someone who inherited a bunch of property and spends their life lording that over other people or someone who's out converting their labor into useful goods and services?
Exactly. If you want to get an allodial title, you should get no police protection and anyone who kills you can claim it by right of conquest. Don’t be a nigger and pay for the land you’re using.
[ + ] Had
[ - ] Had 24 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:10:06 ago (+24/-0)
This is one issue I can't believe people actually support. There's no positive to it.
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 14:52:58 ago (+2/-0)
It is total bullshit
Join my group.. hate... homeowners against taxes everywhere
[ + ] GoldenAgeWhen
[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 18:51:00 ago (+2/-0)
Rinse and repeat for education, roads, police, fire, parks, etc.
[ + ] gimpyoldman
[ - ] gimpyoldman 13 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:09:39 ago (+14/-1)
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[ - ] VoatGoat 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 16:49:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 5 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 07:29:45 ago (+8/-3)
Housing isn't a right or you'd have it for free easily and automatically.
Building that house costs someone something, which means it's not a right.
Rights are free and don't cost anyone anything. Like freedom of speech, it doesn't cost anything to anyone else for me to say I don't like non-Whites. Wheras a house built by myself or others did come at a cost.
[ + ] Conspirologist
[ - ] Conspirologist [op] 6 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 07:36:51 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 07:52:55 ago (+6/-4)
A right, by definition doesn't cost anyone else anything. A house takes multiple people, instantly making it NOT a right.
You're confusing standards of living as rights, just like a leftist NPC.
[ + ] TwiceBanned
[ - ] TwiceBanned 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 08:28:34 ago (+3/-0)
A man has an absolute right to find some land, make it his own, and build and own his own home, without some kikes taking a cut. Everyone has this right.
You wanna live like some chink in a squalor pods stacked a thousand high because you dont believe people have the right to their own land and homes, so you think its okay when BlackRock buys all land and homes and everyone rents from jews now, then you can go ahead and just fuck off out of white lands where people will have rights someday. Go to china.
[ + ] VoatGoat
[ - ] VoatGoat 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 16:48:51 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] Hobama
[ - ] Hobama 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 14:09:59 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 14:55:32 ago (+0/-0)
The right of land ownership falls to whomever is willing to kill for it. The problem comes in with the government having stooges to kill and die at the governments behest with the most advanced tech we have currently. While we are defending our home by ourselves.
[ + ] VoatGoat
[ - ] VoatGoat -1 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 16:52:35 ago (+0/-1)
Take the Henry George pill.
[ + ] Hobama
[ - ] Hobama 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 29, 2022 03:45:26 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] VoatGoat
[ - ] VoatGoat 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 29, 2022 10:20:37 ago (+0/-0)
Anyways, just because someone bought something doesn't mean it SHOULD be a valid form of property or free of all encumbrances. An example of the former would be purchasing slaves - people paid good money for them after all. An example of the latter would be something like restrictions on offshore drilling where someone buys the rights, but they are still restricted in certain ways in obtaining the oil.
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[ - ] Hobama 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 00:47:31 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] VoatGoat 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 16:50:27 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] Conspirologist [op] -2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:02:33 ago (+3/-5)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 4 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:03:29 ago (+6/-2)
jewry detected.
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[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 13:08:40 ago (+0/-0)
I make or grow almost everything I use. I pay around 150USD in taxes a year, barely enough to buy crack for one nigger one time.
Our time is a natural right, a right that the government tramples by forcing wagies to pay for retarded, indolent subhumans.
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[ - ] TwiceBanned 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 13:13:22 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Conspirologist [op] -2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:37:29 ago (+2/-4)
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[ - ] TwiceBanned 5 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 08:35:32 ago (+5/-0)
You have the right to arms. Not free arms. You also have the right to have a place to live without being taxed or paying rent forever, it doesnt have to be given to you for free though. Since no unclaimed land (worth claiming) is left, it must be fairly bought, as is a persons right to sell their property.
I COULD build a gun by myself for free, just like I COULD build a house by myself for free. So your arguments self invalidate. Especially since no one but you even mentioned getting it for free. If you build a house, and pay 50 amish to help, and buy all the supplies from them, it is irrelevant, you may have built it by yourself for free as far as the government or anyone else is concerned.
Rights are not necessarily "free and dont cost anything" it can have a reasonable entry barrier like purchasing property (but taxes forever on said property are clearly a violation). And other rights are clearly not free, as they must be actively protected and paid for with blood and sweat.
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n -1 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:02:19 ago (+1/-2)
If we had an actual right to bear arms we would be born with weapons. Some may argue that we are, given we are born with arms and legs to strike with. Guns and weapons aren't a natural right, but the US government around 1776 knew that as technology advanced that civilians need access to that tech to have a chance against tyranny. It's still not a natural right to have weapons, as there is a cost to the people designing and manufacturing them. If you design and manufacture a gun all by yourself that's an amalgamation between the natural right to defend yourself and the government allowing you to have arms.
You're confusing governmental rights and natural rights.
[ + ] TwiceBanned
[ - ] TwiceBanned 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 11:05:38 ago (+2/-0)*
There is no such thing as governmental rights as far as I'm concerned. We have natural rights, and whatever the government has to say about it be damned. You have the right to pioneer unclaimed lands and settle them tax free and defend them with arms you build, just as you also have the right to make a private purchase of all of these things tax free. Government and their ideas be damned. They can enshrine and protect these rights, which is their only legitimate function, or they are an illegitimate occupation, and we have the right to whatever must be done to remedy the situation.
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n -3 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 13:05:18 ago (+1/-4)
Ok
[ + ] TwiceBanned
[ - ] TwiceBanned 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 13:08:32 ago (+2/-0)
If you are too stupid to understand it so you think it must just be opinions and feelings, then fine, i guess you personally dont have any rights that the government doesnt bless you with. Thats fine. Domt defend yourself, dont speak out of line, exist as they tell you to. You want to relinquish your own rights, i guess you have the right to do so. But you dont get a say in everyone elses, so dont vote for your faggy retarded bullshit.
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n -1 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 13:13:24 ago (+0/-1)
You just sit here waiting to instantly respond with a wall of text.
You are now trying to assign typical governmental boot-licking behavior to me, all while I'm doing more than you are to fight against our banana republic.
I have land on which I homestead.
I have started my family with more growth planned in the future.
I pay less than 200USD a month in taxes.
I make or grow almost everything I use.
I recruit like minded White people to my area to help them start their own homesteads and learn self sufficiency.
What do you do?
[ + ] TwiceBanned
[ - ] TwiceBanned 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 13:18:28 ago (+0/-0)
What do i do? Hmmm, i also homestead. I pay no taxes, cuz fuck the illegitimate government, im not funding my own genocide. I also grow everything i use, along with livestock.
I also do other things i wont discuss here because it is retarded to tell people what you are doing when we are infested with glowniggers and clearly no digital communication is secure. So no, im not incriminating myself. Suffice to say, i promise, i do much more to fix the situation than you do.
So keep being an obtuse moron, its fine. You can choose not to have rights, i certainly wont be helping you get them back since you've given them up by choice.
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n -1 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 13:22:47 ago (+0/-1)
Unless you don't own the property you supposedly homestead on.
Nice larp. Go waste someone else's time member for 2 months.
Foreskin muncher
[ + ] TwiceBanned
[ - ] TwiceBanned 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 13:26:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] TheViciousMrPim
[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 07:50:49 ago (+4/-1)
Just saying I don't think your logic holds very well.
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 07:53:39 ago (+4/-2)*
Punching a person has a cost, to the person punched and any doctors and lost time in recovery.
Defending yourself is a right, but the aggressor is causing a cost to you.
You not understanding the logic doesn't mean I'm incorrect.
[ + ] Leveraction
[ - ] Leveraction -1 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:57:02 ago (+1/-2)
NO ONE OWES YOU SHIT!
YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO A HOUSE. WHAT PLANET DO THESE ENTITLED WHACKJOBS COME FROM.
[ + ] I_am_baal
[ - ] I_am_baal 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 12:03:23 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1.9 yearsJul 1, 2022 21:53:14 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] GoatsAdvocate
[ - ] GoatsAdvocate 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 19:13:26 ago (+1/-0)
And then still have to pay taxes on it.
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 19:48:07 ago (+1/-0)
Most people can't figure out how to provide their own water, electricity, nor how to handle their own sewage.
[ + ] GoatsAdvocate
[ - ] GoatsAdvocate 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 29, 2022 07:05:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 29, 2022 07:12:27 ago (+0/-0)
Anyone who says they don't pay taxes is most likely lying or they own nothing.
If enough people become self sufficient we can starve the beast even more, especially if they work "off the books/under the table", we can get more people available to help our collective future.
[ + ] GoatsAdvocate
[ - ] GoatsAdvocate 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 30, 2022 20:50:59 ago (+0/-0)
The whole point is if I build a house with my bare hands I’d still have to pay taxes to the government and it’s fucked up.
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[ - ] deleted -1 points 1.9 yearsJul 1, 2022 21:12:20 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 22:24:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:42:54 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] AugustineOfHippo2
[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:04:50 ago (+3/-0)
Income (state and federal)
Property (house, car, etc.)
Sales
Etc., Etc.
There should only be one or two ways for the gubmints to collect taxes, and it should be blatantly obvious how much taxes are being paid. There are so many hidden taxes and fees today that most people have no idea how much taxes they are paying.
[ + ] Leveraction
[ - ] Leveraction 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:46:06 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] TwiceBanned
[ - ] TwiceBanned 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 11:08:33 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] VoatGoat
[ - ] VoatGoat 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 16:57:50 ago (+0/-0)
Taxes on capital are less bad but still shitty.
Taxes on rent seeking if the rent seeking can’t be eliminated are just.
[ + ] knightwarrior41
[ - ] knightwarrior41 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 10:36:40 ago (+2/-0)
compound the problem with insurance and you have a year round headache. i think this prob affects more our elderly than anybody else since most rely on SS for survival
[ + ] kammmmak
[ - ] kammmmak 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 10:04:03 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Thatguy
[ - ] Thatguy 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:17:38 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] virge
[ - ] virge 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 11:22:53 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] i_hate_sodomites
[ - ] i_hate_sodomites 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 07:50:24 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] aleleopathic
[ - ] aleleopathic 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 11:03:51 ago (+2/-0)
I know a guy who spent his life saving buying a doomsday bunker for y2k. The guy is now in his 80s and still working because he literally has to for survival, and we are now 22 years past y2k.
Things can ALWAYS get worse. In the 80s they were saying it couldn't get much worse, and it would collapse anyday now, and here we are.
[ + ] AryanPrime
[ - ] AryanPrime 4 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 11:48:12 ago (+4/-0)
You see, if you just get rid of the kikes all the "broken mentalities" will slowly fade
because boomers did fuck all, in fact because boomers openly sold our future, we are in this situation
Let's start putting blame where it lies shall we? boomers openly promoting their own childrens genocide
[ + ] i_hate_sodomites
[ - ] i_hate_sodomites 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 18:50:08 ago (+1/-0)
I don't give flying fuck what the apologists here say. If you own the land, you don't have to pay rent - it's that fucking simple.
[ + ] RMGoetbbels
[ - ] RMGoetbbels 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 16:32:27 ago (+1/-0)
Property tax isn't needed at all. What we need is for lazy pieces of fucking shit to pay their own way.
Do you want me to read my property tax to you? It goes something like this......
XXXXXX schools 3 mils
XXXXX city admin 2mils
veterans memorial .5 mils
state fund 5 mils
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE TAXES are overblown for what I need/use so that pieces of shit like you can work at kmart, push out five kids and drive an escalade.
NIGGER. Don't fucking talk to me about property taxes motherfucker. Fucking second home my ass! FUCK FUCK FUCK!
I could pay for my childrens education, and fucking choose how they educated, pay for a private fire and police service, pay "just" a road tax for the highways I use and be ten fucking times off better. But no, I have to pay for you pieces of shit too. Fuck you.
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 15:02:38 ago (+1/-0)
I get what you're saying though. Boiling frogs since 1913 eventually leads to people born into the system where they've never knew anything better.
[ + ] Sleazy
[ - ] Sleazy 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 14:56:49 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Laputois
[ - ] Laputois 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 08:43:20 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] TheBigGuyFromQueens
[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 08:13:33 ago (+1/-0)
When will we have our day? I am getting impatient with them and nignogs.
[ + ] TwiceBanned
[ - ] TwiceBanned 3 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 11:12:56 ago (+3/-0)
Dont you believe you do have the right to have a place to live, if you pay for/pioneer for it? Dont you believe you have the right to consume nourishment? Not that you have the right to demand free food, but the right to obtain your own food supply and consume it as you wish? No one should be able to tell you "You are not legally allowed to own a home, and you not legally allowed to eat meat (whatever food)"
You dont have the right to steal from others to obtain these things, but you do have the right the acquire them through legitimate means, and anyone preventing that is definitely violating your natural rights. No one has to give you your rights, and you arnt allowed to violate others rights in pursuit of your own. Seems pretty simple to me.
[ + ] TheBigGuyFromQueens
[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 12:10:04 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] TwiceBanned
[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 13:04:45 ago (+1/-0)
As they are objectively correct when they say we all have the right to these things. However wrong they are if they want to be given these things for free unwillingly from the sweat of others.
It is unfortunate we have to have these nuances, but too many kikes exist that will twist words and purposes to their own wills if we are ambiguous about anything.
[ + ] VoatGoat
[ - ] VoatGoat -1 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 17:00:05 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] TwiceBanned
[ - ] TwiceBanned 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 18:42:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 16:12:41 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] GoldenAgeWhen
[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 18:55:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] VoatGoat
[ - ] VoatGoat 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 16:47:28 ago (+1/-1)
Property tax on buildings, cars, etc. is straight bullshit.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 16:09:57 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] SilentByAssociation
[ - ] SilentByAssociation 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 15:39:32 ago (+0/-0)
As far as I understand, in order to make property taxes unenforceable, you want the land patent over color of title.
[ + ] StealthNinjaTaliban
[ - ] StealthNinjaTaliban 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 13:15:16 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 12:11:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 10:41:01 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] deleted -2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 12:15:50 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] Temp20210918c
[ - ] Temp20210918c -2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 11:37:49 ago (+1/-3)
Property taxes can also make more sense than income tax. Who should pay more-- someone who inherited a bunch of property and spends their life lording that over other people or someone who's out converting their labor into useful goods and services?
[ + ] VoatGoat
[ - ] VoatGoat 0 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 17:01:39 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] 1Icemonkey
[ - ] 1Icemonkey -2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 09:40:21 ago (+1/-3)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 1.9 yearsJun 28, 2022 12:19:04 ago (+2/-0)
their billsthe jews.Ftfy