Taking out the grid means inconveniencing hundreds/ thousands of people for hours if the government is efficient, days if the government has problems, weeks if its broken. And repeated attacks because you don't have to kill yourself after each successful event.
As for how hard it would be, I have no idea. I didn't suggest it would be easy, but it's not likely to be all that difficult, especially before it got popular.
Okay. That is more or less what I'd say in terms of what it does. There is a crucial addition though. Such attacks have to be carried out with a list of demands at the ready. In other words if the demands are not met they keep happening. If such attacks are easy they keep happening until the demands are met.
The demands have to be achievable or actionable and the attacks have to actually be easy.
The ultimate purpose of course is territory for a white ethnostate. So in theory the attacks continue until that is granted.
There is no point demanding anything anymore. It's all out or destruction of human mind. If you demand something, then in some few years it can be reverted. It will be reverted. Torture Junkies will always try to torture people, legally.
What? Every revolutionary movement has demands. You don't just randomly tear shit up. More like you wreck society or the state until they give you what you want. They do it. Or else. It's how this stuff works. It's how it has always worked. If you don't understand that you don't understand even the basic shit here.
Having demands for government is just throwing childish tantrum.
until they give you what you want.
Yeah and they revert it back once they can. If you demand something from government, it's like "please daddy, can you fuck my ass a little bit slower, this time?" I'm trying to speak your language here.
The point of course is to hit the government in a way where they can't stop the attacks. This forces them to negotiate or offer concessions with the demands as a framework. If they try to go back on any agreement the attacks just resume.
Pretty much the MO of any successful terrorist organization or guerrilla movement one cares to mention. More or less anyway. This is pretty much the basic principle. And without it being understood it is probably pointless to even go here.
But I have heard of it. What the tweet failed to mention is that the investigation also determined that it may have been an inside job. Maybe it was a CIA test run.
Yeah, see, it’s ludicrously easy to take out a substation, almost none of them are guarded (the infrastructure to do so can’t exist, both due to cost and lack of materials), and only the truly mentally defective would even leave any evidence behind that could tie them to the actions.
Disabling infrastructure is not the goal, of course. It’s just step one of a targeted attack on treasonous elements within a nation. With the power down to, say, a whole city, what independent comms networks remain in operation will be tied up with general stationkeeping—trying to maintain traffic control, talk about finding the source and fixing it, and, eventually, if cards are played right, focusing on putting down the major nonwhite riots taking place under cover of darkness. With local law enforcement tied up and with lights and comms down to major tracking systems, that leaves a window for action against individuals (or business locations with relevant data) who simply can’t be allowed to keep existing. You can finish the rest of the thought yourselves.
That’s the idea. And it will always just be an idea. While private security is a much easier problem to solve when there’s no guarantee of them having local police backup and subsequent pursuit of attackers, it’s still a fantasy that they would ever be challenged. And with the city’s power down, these rich houses tend to have their own generators, meaning their local security cameras will still be recording. Action—even a single instance of localized action in one city—against the ZOG structure would be immediately seen (by some therein) for exactly what it is, and the hardening process would begin immediately. It would take many decentralized efforts along the same lines—quickly, say within under 6 months of each other, and with many many targets hit each time—for any fruit to be borne.
Again, fantasy. Just an idea. No one but the ZOG can do that kind of coordination. Even if a nation’s power grid experiences rolling blackouts throughout summer or winter, as is predicted. And that won’t happen, either. They can’t afford to let it happen (for this very reason that I’m outlining), and so it simply won’t happen to them.
I seem to recall a specific user (here) offering evidence that I’m wrong, at least on a small scale. I don’t believe that ever manifested, but I may have just missed it. If he reads this, he can PM me again.
The infrastructure attack obviously is aimed at two things:
1. Creating chaos.
2. Disrupting the system's ability to move.
And obviously that in itself doesn't put white nationalists in power. It disrupts the current power structure and opens the door for unpredictable changes as the operative principle is that the status quo kills.
Where I take issue is in you saying how easy it is. My info indicates it isn't so easy. That it may even have to be an inside job. Shooting through a fence at a generator probably isn't going to knock out power in Southern California. If something like that is possible you need to make the case.
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I ask that question in the spirit of inquiry.
Tallest Shill is pretty silly to suggest it can be done easily too. It is easy to pick up a gun and drive to a supermarket.
People should think more about attacks on pipelines.
https://apnews.com/article/politics-crime-terrorism-environment-8033138e47bed9d0b4599a9ff3d24c76
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As for how hard it would be, I have no idea. I didn't suggest it would be easy, but it's not likely to be all that difficult, especially before it got popular.
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The demands have to be achievable or actionable and the attacks have to actually be easy.
The ultimate purpose of course is territory for a white ethnostate. So in theory the attacks continue until that is granted.
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If you demand something, then in some few years it can be reverted. It will be reverted. Torture Junkies will always try to torture people, legally.
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If you demand something from government, it's like "please daddy, can you fuck my ass a little bit slower, this time?"
I'm trying to speak your language here.
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Pretty much the MO of any successful terrorist organization or guerrilla movement one cares to mention. More or less anyway. This is pretty much the basic principle. And without it being understood it is probably pointless to even go here.
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Disabling infrastructure is not the goal, of course. It’s just step one of a targeted attack on treasonous elements within a nation. With the power down to, say, a whole city, what independent comms networks remain in operation will be tied up with general stationkeeping—trying to maintain traffic control, talk about finding the source and fixing it, and, eventually, if cards are played right, focusing on putting down the major nonwhite riots taking place under cover of darkness. With local law enforcement tied up and with lights and comms down to major tracking systems, that leaves a window for action against individuals (or business locations with relevant data) who simply can’t be allowed to keep existing. You can finish the rest of the thought yourselves.
That’s the idea. And it will always just be an idea. While private security is a much easier problem to solve when there’s no guarantee of them having local police backup and subsequent pursuit of attackers, it’s still a fantasy that they would ever be challenged. And with the city’s power down, these rich houses tend to have their own generators, meaning their local security cameras will still be recording. Action—even a single instance of localized action in one city—against the ZOG structure would be immediately seen (by some therein) for exactly what it is, and the hardening process would begin immediately. It would take many decentralized efforts along the same lines—quickly, say within under 6 months of each other, and with many many targets hit each time—for any fruit to be borne.
Again, fantasy. Just an idea. No one but the ZOG can do that kind of coordination. Even if a nation’s power grid experiences rolling blackouts throughout summer or winter, as is predicted. And that won’t happen, either. They can’t afford to let it happen (for this very reason that I’m outlining), and so it simply won’t happen to them.
I seem to recall a specific user (here) offering evidence that I’m wrong, at least on a small scale. I don’t believe that ever manifested, but I may have just missed it. If he reads this, he can PM me again.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 1 point 1.9 yearsJun 10, 2022 22:33:46 ago (+1/-0)
1. Creating chaos.
2. Disrupting the system's ability to move.
And obviously that in itself doesn't put white nationalists in power. It disrupts the current power structure and opens the door for unpredictable changes as the operative principle is that the status quo kills.
Where I take issue is in you saying how easy it is. My info indicates it isn't so easy. That it may even have to be an inside job. Shooting through a fence at a generator probably isn't going to knock out power in Southern California. If something like that is possible you need to make the case.
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