Outlawing drugs is not worth the cost to society. Rooting out drugs was the primary justification in the 80’s for government asset forfeiture, govt surveillance of citizens, etc. I’d rather have junkies.
Liberty is preserved. Darwinism is enforced. Just be sure to give the kids that need it a voluntary escape route from those who should have been better.
[ - ] xachariah 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 19:57:32 ago (+1/-0)
You can outlaw things without creating a police state. Don't believe for a second that government overreach was because of drugs.
It's antithetical to the current framework of governance, but by retracting the rule of law a lot of these systems would sort themselves out. Remove the protection of the law from drug dealers; drug dealers stop being able to operate if any of their buyers could legally kill them, steal their shit, and get paid for it. There are second order effects, but they're less bad than either junkies or police states. It is a tried and true system that worked for the vast majority of human history.
I don't use drugs but I think they should be legal. I think the government can fuck off. I like the fire department and a military to keep our country safe (not for fighting the kike's wars) on our turf. Fuck taxes too. I'd happily pay for some defense for my country and fellow Americans, and fire fighters for my community. There's a few other things too, that I'd gladly chip in for.
I can't stand it that I pay pedophiles in election-rigged government to make me give my money that I worked hard for, to israel. Niggers who have 3 pairs of Jordan's and always have an 8ball of cocaine, but won't work so guess what "White men will pay for your food and housing and medical. Your military, your infrastructure."
Then they want to tell me if I do drugs they'll throw me in jail? Fuck your private prisons too! Don't tell me what to do.
Fuck taxes too. I'd happily pay for some defense for my country and fellow Americans, and fire fighters for my community. There's a few other things too, that I'd gladly chip in for.
Do it with local militias and volunteer groups. I'd love to see military contractors trying to convince the local air group that they NEED an F-35.
As opposed to the public gulags which are so much better?
As with most things the problem is a lack of competition and the solution is more competition. Courts shouldn't be sending inmates to a taxpayer funded secure facility, they should be imposing security requirements on them. Meeting those requirements is the offender's problem.
They can't even enforce the laws already on the books. The incompetence of gubbermint is why the founding fathers instituted the 2nd amendment and LIMITED gubbermint! Get it?
The theory seems to be that we fill prisons and impose a police tyranny in order to save the lives of some suicidal folks. Fuck that shit. Keep it up, Oregon!
Good. Adults should be able to do what they want even if it kills them. You don't like junkies, now there are fewer of them.
"But isn't that a crewel way to think about things?" Not at all. Why would you bemoan someone's life being "taken" from them as if their rights to life were stolen by society, when no such thing has occurred, while at the same time cruelly taking from someone their rights be treated as an adult able to do whatever the hell they want?
The best part is that the numbers do decline with time. Eventually you will get numbers of overdoses that are acceptable to your weak mindset, and you also (several generations later) get less drug use when people start to really respect the dangers of drugs when there is no safety net below them.
Safety nets create drug use. If you want less of it, get rid of welfare, get rid of drug programs, get rid of arresting people for getting too into drugs and forcing them to take a drug program. All of those things are safety nets that make the initial choice to do drugs safer. By being artificially safe more people do it and you eventually get a majority culture that encourages it.
I don't think kids should have access to heroine and crystal meth and coke because kids make stupid decisions and these decisions ruin their lives forever. Better off hanging drug junkies and drug dealers on the courthouse lawn.
[ + ] FluffyBunnySlippers
[ - ] FluffyBunnySlippers 21 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 11:53:09 ago (+21/-0)
[ + ] VoatGoat
[ - ] VoatGoat 8 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 12:32:23 ago (+8/-0)
[ + ] oldblo
[ - ] oldblo 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 02:34:44 ago (+2/-0)
Darwinism is enforced.
Just be sure to give the kids that need it a voluntary escape route from those who should have been better.
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 6 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 13:52:42 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 15:36:15 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] 0rion
[ - ] 0rion 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 19:37:00 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] xachariah
[ - ] xachariah 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 19:57:32 ago (+1/-0)
It's antithetical to the current framework of governance, but by retracting the rule of law a lot of these systems would sort themselves out. Remove the protection of the law from drug dealers; drug dealers stop being able to operate if any of their buyers could legally kill them, steal their shit, and get paid for it. There are second order effects, but they're less bad than either junkies or police states. It is a tried and true system that worked for the vast majority of human history.
[ + ] giantprick
[ - ] giantprick -1 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 14:10:33 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 15:35:38 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Hall_of_Cost
[ - ] Hall_of_Cost 14 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 12:39:12 ago (+15/-1)
I can't stand it that I pay pedophiles in election-rigged government to make me give my money that I worked hard for, to israel. Niggers who have 3 pairs of Jordan's and always have an 8ball of cocaine, but won't work so guess what "White men will pay for your food and housing and medical. Your military, your infrastructure."
Then they want to tell me if I do drugs they'll throw me in jail? Fuck your private prisons too! Don't tell me what to do.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 14:15:16 ago (+1/-0)
Do it with local militias and volunteer groups. I'd love to see military contractors trying to convince the local air group that they NEED an F-35.
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 13:54:42 ago (+2/-2)
Boot licking christ cucks can't grasp this simple concept
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 14:00:27 ago (+2/-0)
Why can't atheists figure that out?
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 14:02:53 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 23:14:38 ago (+1/-0)*
Failing to wear socks before renting bowling shoes is bad.
Why can't atheists figure that out. The point is shoehorning a group in randomly is retarded as fuck.
https://nypost.com/2021/03/09/atheists-are-more-likely-to-get-vaccinated-survey/ Sweet. I get a farm. PM me an address.
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks -1 points 2.9 yearsJun 6, 2022 22:07:15 ago (+0/-1)
You best be joking nigger
What you couldnt find any cnn or msnbc articles to cite?
Gtfo you brainwashed sheep
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 14:17:17 ago (+0/-0)
As opposed to the public gulags which are so much better?
As with most things the problem is a lack of competition and the solution is more competition. Courts shouldn't be sending inmates to a taxpayer funded secure facility, they should be imposing security requirements on them. Meeting those requirements is the offender's problem.
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 14:19:32 ago (+1/-1)
More laws and greedy government fucks making useless rules is not a solution
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 14:21:35 ago (+0/-0)
We need laws with or without government
What part of what I said implied the involvement of government? Private court, private prisons, high competition = better outcomes.
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 14:23:19 ago (+1/-0)
Once the government gets its hands in your wallet they NEVER come out
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 15:29:07 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Leveraction 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 15:04:55 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 15:31:24 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 18:05:36 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 19:58:43 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 20:10:32 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] gimpyoldman 7 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 11:44:41 ago (+7/-0)
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[ - ] fnbs 7 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 12:12:29 ago (+7/-0)
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[ - ] spasswerk 7 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 13:47:32 ago (+7/-0)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 5 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 13:52:10 ago (+5/-0)*
"But isn't that a crewel way to think about things?" Not at all. Why would you bemoan someone's life being "taken" from them as if their rights to life were stolen by society, when no such thing has occurred, while at the same time cruelly taking from someone their rights be treated as an adult able to do whatever the hell they want?
The best part is that the numbers do decline with time. Eventually you will get numbers of overdoses that are acceptable to your weak mindset, and you also (several generations later) get less drug use when people start to really respect the dangers of drugs when there is no safety net below them.
Safety nets create drug use. If you want less of it, get rid of welfare, get rid of drug programs, get rid of arresting people for getting too into drugs and forcing them to take a drug program. All of those things are safety nets that make the initial choice to do drugs safer. By being artificially safe more people do it and you eventually get a majority culture that encourages it.
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 4 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 13:50:38 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] lolxd
[ - ] lolxd 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 11:45:02 ago (+4/-1)
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[ - ] xmasskull 3 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 12:38:37 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Lordbananafist
[ - ] Lordbananafist 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 12:06:48 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] RMGoetbbels
[ - ] RMGoetbbels 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 14:12:51 ago (+2/-0)
Legalize drugs, let people do as much and as much as they like. The weak, feable and mentally unfit in our nation will spiral into a death roll.
Problem Solved.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 14:13:40 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 17:01:26 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] Bonlio1 1 point 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 20:04:58 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic -1 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 14:07:53 ago (+0/-1)
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[ - ] GoatsAdvocate 2 points 2.9 yearsJun 5, 2022 16:31:17 ago (+2/-0)