Agreed. Try running your own e-commerce site with something like Woo Commerce or Shopify. You'll have to do your own marketing but you'll also have full control over e.g., which orders you take, etc.
I think eBay is owned by PayPal nowadays. I stopped doing any business with PayPal after they shafted me multiple times as a consumer. One was a seller who never shipped. One was something I never even ordered. In both cases, I ended up issuing a stop payment through my bank.
Also don't forget the old adage: "If Mohammad won't come to the mountain, bring the mountain to Mohamed"
Male sure you keep hold of your customer data. Not in a creepy way but you need: Contact details, what they bought and an indicator of customer value (to you)
And get someone in who is an actual sales person to reach out to your existing customers and prospect for new customers.
And always always always offer customers a discount for a successful customer referral.
Lots of people in the land of online discount the more traditional sales and marketing routes. When this shit was my day to day I progressed to sales and marketing director and did that at more than one firm.
And if you take one thing on board let it be this.
NEVER EVER EVER THINK FOR THE CUSTOMER, BECAUSE BUYERS ARE LIARS!
I cannot stress this enough.
Did someone just by 100 widgets, get in touch, ask if they want to buy more at a better price and offer additional products. You might think, 'thats retarded, 100 widgets is a years supply', yet there's the cunt placing an order of 1000 because you told him he can get a 20% discount if he does, oh and by the way, well also hook him up with a 10% discount on sprockets if he buys 10 or more.
But get a sales person in to do this unless you have the skills and time.
Easy way to sort the wheat from the chaff when hiring is make the role probationary and commission only for the first month (after which it becomes salary + commission)
Keep hr and tax simple by bringing everyone on board as a self employed contractor (without contract). They invoice you at the end of the month, you pay, tax etc is their issue
Also if possible consider b2b operations. This is a headache you can drop on your sales hire
I've really only used eBay about four or five times to sell stuff, so take my advice for what you're paying for it. If your customers can buy the same items off of Amazon, your competing with Amazon's rules (free shipping, one day shipping, free returns etc...) Maybe you're selling the wrong items? If you can't buy these items from Amazon or another online retailer, you get to set the tone and rules of the transaction. The few times I used ebay to sell, I sold off some printer ink that you could no longer buy from a retailer, for a printer that was no longer produced. People where happy to buy it, They paid for shipping and didn't return it because they couldn't buy it anywhere else. There's just no way you can compete with Amazon or Wayfair, don't bother trying.
Keep trying different things, and if all else fails, rich people are scared of leaves. they will pay you to come to their house, collect them, and take them away.
I would second this. I've never tried to sell things online as a major source of income or in bulk, but sold several dozen things on Ebay over the years. I have had good experiences selling niche stuff (antiques, collectables, and the like). I have had terrible experiences selling items where there is an a retail equivilent.
If they can most people will just pay retail from Amazon etc for their own peace of mind (know they're not gonna get scammed themselves by a seller, they can get two day shipping, no question returns, etc). The kind of people buying off Ebay for routine items are the kind - for better or for worse - so focused on saving a couple dollars themselves they'll go out of their way to do so. Which means things like cancelations and returns for you if they find the item a couple bucks cheaper after they order, and other such hassles.
Though like @Sholyhit said if you have items that buyers can't get retail you can do ok and generally don't run into the complaining customers.
There comes a point where you can't participate in the broken system anymore. It worked when it was mostly Whites participating, but now it's shitskins, corporations and grifters. Take what you can and get some land to make your own slice of life.
Grubbing in dumpsters. Bottom feeders provide a value to the ecology. A sucker fish will maintain a cleaner aquarium, but remains a bottom feeder. You should accept it and become the best bottom feeder possible. Become the big catfish within the swamp you wallow in.
Purchase the Amazon pallets yourself. List on FB marketplace and craigslist first. No taxes or fees, pure cash in your pocket, no income tax. Anything that does not sell on those platforms list on eBay, if it does not move in 2 weeks on eBay consign it to a weekly yard sale, again, no fees, cash , and no taxes. You need to add a couple of nice items to the yard sale to draw customers, let them know the yard sale will be weekly so you get repeat clientele who will go to you first because of the good product and low price and when they arrive they will have more money in their pockets. Filter your goods to maximize sales and turnover. Be the best Bottom feeder you can be.
Yeah, he dug his own grave here. I've been selling on eBay off and on since the late 90's. The key is telling people "No". No returns accepted. No free shipping outside CONUS. No, No, No. Works for me, I've never had an issue and I've sold hundreds of items in the last 5 years or so.
i used to do business on ebay. nothing worse than dealing with the dumbest customers on earth having to cater to their every stupid whim cause they have total power to screw your account.
[ - ] I_am_baal 1 point 2.9 yearsMay 23, 2022 18:33:44 ago (+1/-0)*
I mainly flip things on craigslist and fb. It's pretty great because I can see people's profiles on fb or their grammar and spelling through cl emails along with whatever screen name they have for their email.
I had issues with nig customers. For a short while, I dealt with it to see if it was worth the hassle; it was not. They'd beat up the product and then try to return it, or they'd be too stupid to know how the product works, ie complaining that they can't access the internet any faster on the new tablet than the old one... but they have dial up, and somehow this is my fault in their mind. Since then, I've just stopped selling to niggers. If one hits me up, I'm magically out of whatever they're trying to buy. My business has been fairly headache-free since then.
I also only deal with white suppliers. I moved to a 99%+ white area away from the nig filled cities and strategically in range of other dominantly white areas. I'm surrounded by hard working white people who don't want to enter the niggy cities to buy something. Even though I'm out in the sticks, I still get enough customers to get by and even get ahead. They don't fuck me over when they do something stupid. They're honest, and it is an enormous relief. I also don't sell anything I can't profit more than $100 on.
I would say one of the most important things is to not sell cheap products. You'll get plenty of niggers there. Sell things that niggers don't know how to use, and cater to the higher priced section of those products for maximum effect. I tested out beaners and asians too, and they gave me zero headache at the price points I work with. It was pretty much just nigs and street shitters that gave me problems.
I did reselling for a while. It just kept getting worse and worse. Ebay kept jacking up fees and requirements. Thrift stores kept jacking up prices. They got to the point half of them just started putting printouts from eBay on their merchandise, but not sold listings, just whatever asinine price they could find.
Thats a long read. Cathartic. Ill be honest you lost me after the eBay nonsense. What is holding you from offering a service, doing something your community needs? Something of substance and quality?
I think you just identified a need: a place that aggregates good customers. Maybe that already exists and you can use it, or maybe it needs built. WhiteBay or something.
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 12 points 2.9 yearsMay 23, 2022 07:46:13 ago (+12/-0)
Include information about how to access cheaper prices direct (discount = eBay fee)
Platforms like eBay should be treated as marketing platforms. They are designed to fuck you
[ + ] Temp20210918c
[ - ] Temp20210918c 4 points 2.9 yearsMay 23, 2022 11:50:49 ago (+4/-0)
I think eBay is owned by PayPal nowadays. I stopped doing any business with PayPal after they shafted me multiple times as a consumer. One was a seller who never shipped. One was something I never even ordered. In both cases, I ended up issuing a stop payment through my bank.
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Male sure you keep hold of your customer data. Not in a creepy way but you need:
Contact details, what they bought and an indicator of customer value (to you)
And get someone in who is an actual sales person to reach out to your existing customers and prospect for new customers.
And always always always offer customers a discount for a successful customer referral.
Lots of people in the land of online discount the more traditional sales and marketing routes. When this shit was my day to day I progressed to sales and marketing director and did that at more than one firm.
And if you take one thing on board let it be this.
NEVER EVER EVER THINK FOR THE CUSTOMER, BECAUSE BUYERS ARE LIARS!
I cannot stress this enough.
Did someone just by 100 widgets, get in touch, ask if they want to buy more at a better price and offer additional products. You might think, 'thats retarded, 100 widgets is a years supply', yet there's the cunt placing an order of 1000 because you told him he can get a 20% discount if he does, oh and by the way, well also hook him up with a 10% discount on sprockets if he buys 10 or more.
But get a sales person in to do this unless you have the skills and time.
Easy way to sort the wheat from the chaff when hiring is make the role probationary and commission only for the first month (after which it becomes salary + commission)
Keep hr and tax simple by bringing everyone on board as a self employed contractor (without contract). They invoice you at the end of the month, you pay, tax etc is their issue
Also if possible consider b2b operations. This is a headache you can drop on your sales hire
[ + ] Sholyhit
[ - ] Sholyhit 11 points 2.9 yearsMay 23, 2022 06:47:00 ago (+11/-0)
There's just no way you can compete with Amazon or Wayfair, don't bother trying.
Keep trying different things, and if all else fails, rich people are scared of leaves. they will pay you to come to their house, collect them, and take them away.
[ + ] JokerCircus
[ - ] JokerCircus 1 point 2.9 yearsMay 23, 2022 17:45:12 ago (+1/-0)
If they can most people will just pay retail from Amazon etc for their own peace of mind (know they're not gonna get scammed themselves by a seller, they can get two day shipping, no question returns, etc). The kind of people buying off Ebay for routine items are the kind - for better or for worse - so focused on saving a couple dollars themselves they'll go out of their way to do so. Which means things like cancelations and returns for you if they find the item a couple bucks cheaper after they order, and other such hassles.
Though like @Sholyhit said if you have items that buyers can't get retail you can do ok and generally don't run into the complaining customers.
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[ - ] derpfroot 7 points 2.9 yearsMay 23, 2022 10:13:08 ago (+7/-0)
Also, good write-up.
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A merchant who can get products from producer to consumer is value adding and therefore their markup is justified.
This man just clips the ticket and like you say. Is a bottom feeder
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I think the path to take would be to post on multiple platforms in parallel and offer discounts for the better platforms.
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I had issues with nig customers. For a short while, I dealt with it to see if it was worth the hassle; it was not. They'd beat up the product and then try to return it, or they'd be too stupid to know how the product works, ie complaining that they can't access the internet any faster on the new tablet than the old one... but they have dial up, and somehow this is my fault in their mind. Since then, I've just stopped selling to niggers. If one hits me up, I'm magically out of whatever they're trying to buy. My business has been fairly headache-free since then.
I also only deal with white suppliers. I moved to a 99%+ white area away from the nig filled cities and strategically in range of other dominantly white areas. I'm surrounded by hard working white people who don't want to enter the niggy cities to buy something. Even though I'm out in the sticks, I still get enough customers to get by and even get ahead. They don't fuck me over when they do something stupid. They're honest, and it is an enormous relief. I also don't sell anything I can't profit more than $100 on.
I would say one of the most important things is to not sell cheap products. You'll get plenty of niggers there. Sell things that niggers don't know how to use, and cater to the higher priced section of those products for maximum effect. I tested out beaners and asians too, and they gave me zero headache at the price points I work with. It was pretty much just nigs and street shitters that gave me problems.
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[ + ] RabbiKinderschtupper
[ - ] RabbiKinderschtupper 1 point 2.9 yearsMay 23, 2022 08:28:27 ago (+1/-0)
I did reselling for a while. It just kept getting worse and worse. Ebay kept jacking up fees and requirements. Thrift stores kept jacking up prices. They got to the point half of them just started putting printouts from eBay on their merchandise, but not sold listings, just whatever asinine price they could find.
It's all so tiring.
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Its your gig, I hope it works out for you.
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