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The biggest surprising realization I have had in life and one that I continue to have trouble remembering.

submitted by Crackinjokes to whatever 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 10:01:25 ago (+28/-0)     (whatever)

The biggest surprising revelation that I've had in life is that the majority of people literally cannot think for themselves. They do not have the mental capacity to do it. If you're in a group that can do it you're in an unusual group and they're typically going to be in a much higher IQ than the average person. We all think that if we give regular people enough evidence that they will come to the conclusion through logic that the evidence points to. In actual fact the most surprising thing and it's taken me years to realize is that most people literally do not have the mental capability to do it. This is why so many people follow authority rather than use logic to come to their own conclusions. To this day I have trouble remembering this and will often try to talk to a group of people using evidence or logic forgetting the fact that most people that you meet in an average group cannot deduce a conclusion from evidence using logic. It's simply hard to believe but it's true.

Big fat dangerous provided this link which illustrates the problem so well I decided to edit this and add this link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2eyq9qTOQY

I swear to God most people are human bodies walking around doing exactly any routine that they have learned with barely a brain at all. It's like they're all meat puppets. And it's scary because you think there's something going on behind their eyes and they provide or do things in a routine manner that you associate with actual thinking but they're just doing them from a routine.


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[ - ] RecycledElectrons 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 26, 2022 07:46:35 ago (+0/-0)

Could they just be lazy, and could they be counting on the benefits of being a freeloader to carry them through?

[ - ] Not_a_redfugee 9 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 10:22:34 ago (+9/-0)

Especially women. I love asking women a question to try to gauge their ability to think logically:

"If you're in your car driving a steady 70 miles-per-hour, no stopping, speeding up, or slowing down, how long will it take you to drive 70 miles?"

The majority of women I ask this question get it wrong, like "uhh idk math is hard XD an hour and a half?"

Men usually get it right unless theyre a dumbass NPC.

Try asking women that question sometime. It can be hilarious.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 21:40:47 ago (+1/-0)

Is she giving road head while driving? or just driving milage may vary in each case.

[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 2 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 00:30:20 ago (+2/-0)

You are dangerously close to doing a "miles of cock" calculation.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 16:50:51 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 23:49:34 ago (+0/-0)

Boy this really does prove it better than anything. Thanks for this link. I think I'm actually going to add it to the original post as an edit.

[ - ] SithEmpire 8 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 14:05:21 ago (+8/-0)

The closest you can get with words is to tell it like a story. Get rid of logical hypotheticals and if-thens, pick a version of events (or illustrative example of one) and say that's what happened, in chronological order.

Even better is showing stuff with pictures and video.

[ - ] giantprick 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 03:32:10 ago (+1/-0)

I find puppets and shiny round objects help

[ - ] albatrosv15 8 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 12:08:34 ago (+8/-0)*

Even today my wife was arguing with an IT guy that she doesn't want to use phone(personal) identification(thank you microsoft) at work. She used all logical arguments, it didn't matter. For those people, the answer was "this is what was decided and you are stupid for not going along". I tried to tell my wife that there is absolutely no point arguing with them, they automatically grovel in front of power. It's the same mechanic as with covid jabs and ukraine support. Whatever the power decides, they will support it. People are generally cowardly order followers and try to drag everyone to the same level.
Just. It's heartbreaking to watch how my wife is still naive to that. She still thinks that "if i throw enough logic and facts, people will understand".
I remember that thinking, something in 2005-2010, "wow, that information is eye awakening. Surely if i tell other people about this, they will understand". Boy was i wrong. I mean, even discussion about various topics was "crackpot conspiracy theory" or "what's your solution? None? Then shut the fuck up"(which basically means "i want simple orders").

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer 4 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 13:03:32 ago (+4/-0)

"this is what was decided and you are stupid for not going along"

I think it's somewhat related to IQ but it's also shown to happen in supposedly high-IQ jobs/areas. Like your IT guy, supposedly they have above luke-warm IQ to have that job.

During my stint in uni I must have picked up 30+ "Dev" accounts on random shit that was "the new thing" for whatever dumbass cult told the assistant prof to use that semester. It was amazing seeing all of them following different trends without even understanding why other than "its the new thing, it must be good!" or whatever.

After my first semester I realized that, unless forced to provide proof of using said system, I could simply sign up, do the one assignment proving I signed up, then go back to using my usual methods of completing projects.

It's heartbreaking to watch how my wife is still naive to that.

I kind of understand though. Realizing just how much of an NPC the vast majority of people are is one of those harsh realities than many may not want to face.

I mean, even discussion about various topics was "crackpot conspiracy theory" or "what's your solution? None? Then shut the fuck up"(which basically means "i want simple orders").

Well, they really are programmed with those two responses from the usual suspects. "Crackpot conspiracy theory" lets them dismiss out of hand anything that gets labeled under that moniker, allowing them to avoid thinking about something.

And the "what's your solution?" thing is a bit more insidious because on the face of it it seems like they are looking for a solution to test against their programming model. This again is a way to avoid thinking and wrestling with difficult concepts and ideas that may not have a simple solution or problems with a single cause.

Thinking on and wrestling with difficult things with multi-factor situations is a skill that needs practice. As with nearly everything, the more you do it, the more you can do it; better, quicker, "cheaper", and with more difficult concepts. But these people aren't even in the baby-steps stage of being able to think on single-issue, single-cause, simple-solution situations on their own. Thus, even simple thinking is nearly impossible for these NPCs.

It's yet another reason that, while we may all walk this path of the red pill as a group, we must each take the road alone. To break that sort of programming you have to do it yourself, step by simple step.

[ - ] Rawrination 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 15:07:56 ago (+0/-0)

The only solution is the final solution.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 15:10:28 ago (+0/-0)

It's the only permanent one.

[ - ] pshawman 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 08:01:27 ago (+0/-0)

During my stint in uni I must have picked up 30+ "Dev" accounts on random shit that was "the new thing" for whatever dumbass cult told the assistant prof to use that semester. It was amazing seeing all of them following different trends without even understanding why other than "its the new thing, it must be good!" or whatever.

so true

[ - ] Ragnar 2 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 12:56:20 ago (+2/-0)

That just sounds like pajeets, not normal people

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 21:43:12 ago (+1/-0)

I usually get told to stop talking or making comments that's when I know the NPC is in shut down mode

[ - ] FellowWhite 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 21:59:53 ago (+1/-0)

When you're forced into something logic doesn't matter, the only options are to comply or accept death.

[ - ] giantprick 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 03:34:51 ago (+1/-0)

On the bright side it sounds like you have a tremendous winner of a wife

[ - ] Kozel -1 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 15:23:24 ago (+0/-1)

she doesn't want to use phone(personal) identification(thank you microsoft) at work

This doesn't make sense to me. The only way it makes sense is that your wife didn't want to install a 2-factor auth app.

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 23:44:34 ago (+1/-0)

I think if some company was going to require me to use a phone to do some authentication and I would buy a second throw away phone and use that one only for the business authentication and never ever put any personal use stuff on that phone. I would use my personal phone and keep it completely separate and never use it for any authentication. I just don't see any reason to have your business stuff tied into your personal phone in any way unless you own your own business of course or you work for yourself.

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 16:39:43 ago (+0/-0)

So?

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 00:28:13 ago (+1/-1)

there's like a dozen open source free 2-factor totp apps only a retard scared of computer demons will be afraid to install them in favor of having an unsecured password

[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 07:38:20 ago (+1/-0)

It seems you don't know how universities "work"(they chose only microsoft authenticator).
Also, i charge 10 bucks for insult therapy.

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 12:52:27 ago (+0/-0)

Microsoft Authenticator uses TOTP standard you can just use Aegis or AndOTP or whatever instead of Google or MS authenticator it works exactly the same. You can even configure the authenticators to handle non standard totp like Authy or Blizzard or Steam. So in retrospect it seems you don't know about TOTP and I charge $20 for consulting.

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 15:31:09 ago (+0/-0)

So you are saying i should always carry a smartphone with me?

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 15:33:00 ago (+0/-0)

Why did you change the discussion from one subject to another whilst implicating me in fabricated claims? Very jewish of you. I give you one opportunity to repent.

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 15:37:47 ago (+0/-0)

Well, we already changed the subject before. The first was "using a phone for authentication", then you started talking about totp specifically, which is a subset of "using a phone for authentication". Although, we didn't change the subject, cause it's still about "using a phone for authentication".

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 17:12:30 ago (+0/-0)

there's totp solutions for windows, linux, mac, etc. or you could run an android emulator on the work machine and microsoft authenticator or whatever on that

[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 15:39:44 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] mannerbund 7 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 11:14:16 ago (+7/-0)

I think this is an evolutionary trait of many communal animals. You can't all be leaders, free thinkers, etc. A certain percentage of the population must remain docile and capable of following a leader for pack survival.

It's only after more complex language is evolved that we become capable of using reason to solve problems with mere spoken word (rhetoric) and careful evaluation (logic), whereby a society might function truly well with all parties being involved in the decision making and confirming the proper path forward because they could all evaluate the same conditions and get to the same end results.

Unfortunately this really only applies to those who were capable of such functionality. It seems that it would be counter-productive to have everyone be capable of independent thought if you had no means of coordinating well.

[ - ] Rawrination 4 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 15:12:13 ago (+4/-0)

Which is why white men of good moral character are the only ones who should vote. Smart niggers and women can be assistants or something but the final power of voting belongs solely on White men.

Kill all the kikes and this will happen naturally.

[ - ] giantprick 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 03:37:04 ago (+0/-0)

You're underestimating the skill it takes to assist one of the white men you speak of

Trust me. When you get to the point of needing an assistant, you'll realize you never want an assistant again

[ - ] Hoobeejoo 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 12:06:47 ago (+0/-0)

Very few people make good Consiglieri because they see themselves as Godfather.

[ - ] giantprick 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 24, 2022 03:42:56 ago (+0/-0)

That's fair, but if I say send an email I don't think it matters how big my ego is, that shouldn't prevent a competent assistant from sending an email, scheduling an appointment, doing X when they say they will

My ego is fair game, my deadlines aren't

[ - ] aer9ERub 2 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 20:39:36 ago (+2/-0)

This is a really important point and I think very few people ever get there. NPCs are not good or bad. They just are. They are the drones that defend the hive. Yes, they are frustrating to deal with if you are not also one but without them we would not have a society at all.

Now, the evil pieces of shit who have hijacked the channels to program the NPCs and who are doing their best to destroy humanity...focus your ire there. And try to figure out out to re-hijack the NPCs. We need them turned against the Lizard People.

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 23:45:58 ago (+0/-0)

"it would be counter-productive to have everyone be capable of independent thought if you had no means of coordinating well."

That's a great point.

[ - ] Peter_Einsiedler 3 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 17:13:02 ago (+3/-0)

You are right, but there is a broader issue. I worked at a good university for about a decade together with quite smart people (electrical engineers, phycisits, mathematicians, etc.) The average IQ at the place was probably 130. Those guys would follow the evidence you showed them until admitting there were at least partially wrong. However, if the issue was a non-pc one, they will completely forget the train of thoughts, conclusions and ramifications from one day to the other. I had to always start from zero again. It's as if they've been programmed to delete such knowledge as soon as it appears.

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 23:36:27 ago (+1/-0)

Forgetting the arguments they had yesterday is such a known quality of Jews that Hitler literally noted it in his book Mein Kampf. He talks about how he would have discussions with Jews in his youth and finally won them over and then the next day they would be like it never happened.

I am guessing many of those university people were Jews.

I think this memory loss is real and it's a genetic evolution from when they were trading people in Constantinople and their success depended on being able to rip off the next guy the next day just as badly as they had ripped off the guy the day before. And if they had a conscience and remembered how wrong they were from the day before they never would have been able to continue to rip off the next person the next day. So I really feel like among Jews that they developed this forgetfulness and it's real. I think it's a genetic problem with their brain that evolved to help them be successful in business so they can just cheat people over and over and over again and no logical moral argument ever stops them for more than a day.

[ - ] giantprick 2 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 03:33:05 ago (+2/-0)

More and more I find myself starting to explain something, only to look in the deadness of the listeners eye and just give up mid sentence

[ - ] Hoobeejoo 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 12:40:37 ago (+0/-0)

the deadness of the listeners eye

Oh man. The ubiquitousness of this phenomenon is depressing and creepy.

[ - ] giantprick 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 24, 2022 03:43:47 ago (+0/-0)

It's probably the biggest black pill I have to date encountered

[ - ] NuckFiggers 2 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 11:30:14 ago (+2/-0)

Most people think only in the moment. They make immediate decisions based on what they're thinking, what they're feeling and what's happening in the moment. They don't think beyond that. It's always impulsive, quick decisions because it takes time and effort to think beyond the immediate.

[ - ] CPU 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 16:19:11 ago (+1/-0)

I have noticed this in school as well. They don't question the information in the text or class notes. They don't ask why or how it was found. No desire for deep understanding. They just go with in and remember it.

[ - ] Just_me 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 15:54:45 ago (+1/-0)

I have a family member high up in pharma... guess who's all in on jabs... i havent had an argument since I introduced vaers evidence.. guess who's still all on on jabs though

You're completely right, facts, truth, math, and actual science don't mean a thing anymore

My own wife believes roe v wade was overturned and all abortion is illegal...neither of them are dummies but faceberg and others control their thinking

[ - ] aer9ERub 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 20:42:51 ago (+1/-0)

I recall reading a paper where the midwits and just above midwit are the ones most likely to comply with mandates from the Parasite Class. Either they are barely holding on to what they have or they are super-invested in not losing what they've scraped into their little bile.

The lowest classes and the extremely capable are least likely to comply. The extremely capable because they are so hard to mislead and the lowest classes because they have an innate sense of fairness and realize their is no social contract which benefits them so why should they buy into one?b

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 23:38:36 ago (+1/-0)

That's an interesting observation about the lower economic class in the upper economic class being always likely to comply. It's probably true. The guys who have nothing have no real reason to comply because they're risking nothing by not complying.

[ - ] con77 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 11:04:05 ago (+1/-0)

Individuals are smart. People are stupid. And untrustworthy.

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 2 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 12:57:23 ago (+2/-0)

Exactly. The dynamics of group psychology is very different than the psychology of an individual.

[ - ] CHIRO 2 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 14:46:41 ago (+2/-0)

That classic quote from Men in Black:

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it."

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 11:09:28 ago (+1/-0)

What a bunch of bastards!

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 21:44:30 ago (+0/-0)

Never underestimate stupid in a crowd

[ - ] Hoobeejoo 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 11:54:06 ago (+0/-0)

Pavlovian Meat Robots.

I used to be a surveillance operative for several years. I would observe the Standard American Hominid in its natural environment for several years.

As an observer, I was constantly in the crowd but no part of it. (If that makes sense). The conclusion that I drew was the vast overwhelming majority of these creatures are not sentient or have a soul. The just bounce around from stimuli to stimuli in search of reaction.

It is creepy as fuck. I would often imagine that the sea of humanity I was navigating through was filled with dormant zombies. Useless brain dead eaters roaming around, waiting for something to trigger the feeding frenzy that we commonly associate with the movie genre.

When following a subject through a crowd, I would imagine the triggering happening at that moment and I would have to shoot my way out.

That was in the early 2000's. It's only gotten worse, because I am seeing these traits more and more in people that I actually know and used tobhink of as intelligent people.

Fun times.

[ - ] Teefinyomouf 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 09:16:06 ago (+0/-0)

people literally cannot think for themselves

If you're in a group that can do it

Wut?

[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 00:27:41 ago (+0/-0)

How do we find people? All i can really think of is the shot, but that misses a lot both directions.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 16:50:06 ago (+0/-0)

Dohohohoho. OP still thinks free will exists. Should we tell him?

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 15:14:48 ago (+0/-0)

A significant portion of the masses are incapable of visualizing objects and many who can, only see a simplified two dimensional object. Detailed three dimensional visualization is a minority trait that borders on being a superpower compared to the ability of the average person.

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 23:40:28 ago (+0/-0)

This is very true as well. And this is something that it also took me a while to realize that people could not see things in their head in three dimensions like I can. It's a rare trait. In fact one of the known tests for inventors is they ask people to count how many corners a cube has or something similar and then after the answers are given they ask the people how they arrived at them. And the engineers told the person that they arrived at their answer by rotating the cube in their mind and literally counting the corners. The other people if they did arrive at the correct answer at all did it via some method of memorization or some other kind of projection of number theory rather than actually visualizing the cube and rotating it in their mind.

[ - ] Hoobeejoo 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 20, 2022 12:53:21 ago (+0/-0)

took me a while to realize that people could not see things in their head in three dimensions like I can.

I still struggle with this. I had never heard of such a thing until a couple years ago. Since I am human,, I am prone to projection. I just assumed that everyone talked in their heads and pictured things and concepts like I did.

I know people without an inner monologue exist. However, I still have a hard time getting my head around the idea of not being able to picture an apple in 3 dimensions. It just doesn't compute. To me, that seems like huge malfunction in cognition.