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This is a really stupid question, but is there a way to login on Aether?

submitted by we_kill_creativity to Goats_on_Aether 2.0 yearsMay 18, 2022 18:01:54 ago (+3/-0)     (Goats_on_Aether)

All I see is an option to create a new account. I recently had to get a new computer and all I can see to do on Aether is "join" and make a new account? Am I missing something really obvious here?


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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 22, 2022 17:37:00 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] AetherUser 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 22, 2022 18:41:44 ago (+0/-0)

That is right. You can copy the whole folder, but that can become quite large, Gigabytes, if you use Aether a lot.

It is a good idea to backup those files securely, in case they are corrupted or you need to use your account on a different machine.

[ - ] we_kill_creativity [op] 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 22, 2022 18:54:26 ago (+0/-0)

You can copy the whole folder, but that can become quite large, Gigabytes, if you use Aether a lot.

This is actually a general question I've had about Aether. I know that if there's no activity on a post for 6 months, it goes away, but theoretically, if Aether did get really popular and it's sort of stored on everyone's computer, wouldn't that file size get ridiculously large for everyone?

Also, what if a community did NOT want posts to go away, but actually really needed them to be stored indefinitely...there's probably no solution to that, is there? (I'm actually trying to start a forum for a somewhat large community on the internet where we'd have to be able to store posts indefinitely or there would be no point to the forum.)

[ - ] AetherUser 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 22, 2022 19:30:14 ago (+0/-0)

Content posted on Aether is actually there forever, but it drops out of view when it "goes stale" after 6 months of non-interaction. You could open the database and try and find it.

The client default is to stop showing things after 6 months but this can be changed. This is good for the network, as the less it has to show, the faster it can remain.

In the settings json files, you can set the storage size you are willing to keep for Aether. Storage is relatively cheap these days.Aether is text only and text compresses very efficiently.

I could choose to keep a large amount of Aether data, others might not want to. It would be my way of supporting the infrastructure and holding my interests.

The need for permanent storage hasn't yet been solved on Aether. I think the best way forward for that is through IPFS pinning. (I think IPFS pinning for images/memes is the best solution too.)

This would mean integrating Aether with another application protocol. There are some Free software projects which might have some useful code for this purpose:

https://hardbin.com/ipfs/QmR2NPtsbbnRHbsLsAjrnvGSS3hySLXrQsSqpM99Do8hAt/

https://dev.to/amal/pasteit-a-pastebin-on-ipfs-1kl9
https://www.textdrop.link/
ipfs-companion
https://imageserver.link/

[ - ] we_kill_creativity [op] 0 points 1.9 yearsMay 23, 2022 17:13:24 ago (+0/-0)

I looked into IPFS pinning a bit. At least enough to get the overall concept. It looks like, at a large enough scale, you'd still be talking about servers essentially, just not servers used in traditional ways.

I mean, I could foresee the community I'm trying to build a forum service for being 10k people rather quickly. And they NEED to be able to permanently store documents. It's one of, if not the main, core features. And it would, if successful, only scale up from there.

When I started this project and had video calls with some of these people, there was a strong desire among the people to WANT to pay for a solution, because they're tired of getting censored/kicked off free options. I'm just theorizing out loud here, but it would seem to me that someone could do almost all of Aether the way it's designed right now, I mean the functionality of it, but use a server for, in this case, the permanent document storage solution? It could also be used to hold their login info (I know Aether doesn't have that, but instead using something in the code a person could save, but I know these people would need something like a traditional log in option).

[ - ] we_kill_creativity [op] 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 22, 2022 19:46:26 ago (+0/-0)

You could open the database and try and find it.

Huh...I figured there was no database. I figured that's why it's etheric. Where is that located in the case of Aether.

I will look into IPFS pinning.

[ - ] AetherUser 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 22, 2022 15:02:51 ago (+0/-0)

we_kill_creativity has solved this already. In case anybody else is curious, download a client from https://getaether.net

You can navigate straight to the /b/Voat community at this address:

aether://board/f2c944108971c509c3718a43e8bc77d95d3591746241b6a490e537f00122d98d

[ - ] beece 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 18, 2022 21:39:24 ago (+1/-0)

Waiting for someone smarter than me to reply, but I haven't done Aether because to me it appears that they want to download some shit onto my computer to do so. Fuck that.

[ - ] we_kill_creativity [op] 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 19, 2022 06:39:04 ago (+0/-0)

Do you seriously never download anything onto your computer?

[ - ] AetherUser 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 22, 2022 15:00:12 ago (+0/-0)

You download the Aether client. It is a bit like a web browser but for the Aether protocol.

There are other platforms which require a compliant client too. For example, the Gemini Protocol requires a gemini compliant client, e.g. LaGrange browser. You might be familiar with Odysee, and you can use a LBRY client to enjoy the full benefit of that. For HTTP, you use an http client, e.g. Mozilla Firefox.