It's a collapsed concrete structure with remnants of rebar in the inner passage ways, and has suffered various processes of calcification, mineralization, oxidation etc. Dude from Wise Up channel talks about all the ancient megalithic sites etc are products of being submerged under flood waters for hundreds / thousands of years etc and left under mud and soil.
The organization required to build a pyramid would require agriculture. If i recall correctly agriculture is not 30,000 years old....but like 15,000 years old max
Not possible since the earth is only ~7000-8000 yes old based on biblical genealogy. Evolution is BS, carbon dating is BS. Modern "science" except for the utmost practical like chemical and mechanical engineering is BS.
Fucking kill yourself you retard. You are saying the technology that is allowing you to spout your retardation doesn't exist. You are truly the enemy and all of you fucking retards need to hang.
No, the technology exists. It's just shitty. Go read some documentation about the inaccuracies of carbon dating and icecore samples, otherwise shut up.
Darwin's father was a high ranking freemason who used his son to push the evolution agenda. Look it up.
Guess who controls and established the freemasons?
The Jews. They say it themselves.
Evolution is a Jewish lie to undermine the Christian order.
They've all been squirreled away into the Vatican archive and other "museums". What fucks me up the most is that there's people who know the answers to all the questions about ancient civilizations, their hiding it, and it's common and public knowledge that they're hiding history from us.
What I find interesting is the choice of building material. A society that could create such a thing would likely have better materials to choose from. Is it possible they could cast stone as we do cement?
Just because they didn't use metals we would consider "advanced" in our time doesn't mean they weren't advanced in different ways. It is pretty amazing the way it perfectly aligns with certain stars, and just the fact that they were able to pull it off on human energy alone. I definitely think humans of that time period were smarter than we are today.
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 3 yearsMay 18, 2022 02:00:06 ago (+1/-0)*
This is pretty amazing, given one guy discovered this alone in his backyard. I've seen an example of the raising technique performed by a couple of academics on a much smaller scale model. I still want to play devil's advocate here for a moment (I don't come down strongly on any theory about the pyramids or other megalithic structures; history is hard, these things are mysterious regardless of almost any explanation, and so I maintain agnosticism).
(a) These methods are fine to use on an isolated mass, in the open, on a flat surface. Megalithic structures can be found on different kinds of terrain at varying elevations and slopes. Not only this, but structures such as the pyramids are remarkably high. How do we explain movement of multi-ton stones up the kinds of inclines found on the pyramids?
(b) I tend to believe that skepticism over the official story of the pyramids increases among people who have actually built things. There is an intuition a person who builds has for how difficult approaching perfection is, even in very small projects. I'm a woodworker, and I recognize that approaching perfection is something you have to try before you realize what marginal returns look like, i.e. the amount of mastery and years of dedication required just to get minute increases in precision.
Explaining the pyramids is not just a matter of explaining how one moves a (or any single) large stone. The amount of internal symmetry and precision in the pyramids is astounding, together with the fact that their positions with respect to the others (at Giza) shows close astronomical alignment with celestial objects. We're talking about a civilization that existed thousands and thousands of years ago, who only conceivably worked with the crudest practical algebra (and they had no pure mathematics whatsoever).
Further, we are told the work of these pyramids was largely performed by slaves. These kinds of projects strike me as not only requiring a master builder to make plans and supervise, but that they would have been impossible if the workers themselves did not have the knowledge/expertise necessary. It's like saying you could have Rembrandt instruct a low IQ moron in painting, and that 'slave' could produce a Rembrandt.
(c) If techniques like those used in this video were what the Egyptians used, it betrays greater physical and mathematical intelligence than evidence suggests Egyptians really possessed. This is not my point. My point is that, if true, and Egyptians were building mathematically accurate WOOD instruments (of precise lengths for creating the right sized lever arms, yada yada), it seems very strange that such an intelligent race would have foregone the use of wood to build structures. They would have realized the myriad economic advantages of using wood. That is, we are giving them credit for crafting sophisticated wood devices to build with, in order to build theatrically impractical and uneconomical stone megaliths.
Put another way, how do we believe the Egyptians were making contraptions from wood as sophisticated as those seen in this video, but they somehow missed the idea of using wood for making buildings? "Hey, how did the Egyptians move megalithic stones? I've got your answer! First you have to go grab your sophisticated wooden tool and then take that wooden tool over to the actual building materials..."
How do we explain movement of multi-ton stones up the kinds of inclines found on the pyramids?
Thousands of people without wagecuckery to burden them down. You could argue that while modern tech goes steep but not broad, theirs did the opposite, which is why they applied the little knowledge they had of levers and stuff to many things, including huge rocks.
It reminds me of that post about archeological findings of primitive bread like 10k years back. Breakthroughs weren't common, but they had a LOT of time to get implemented, experimented with and refined.
I'm not saying your observation is wrong. However, it didn't answer the question. When I asked 'how', I wasn't referring either to what motivated them, or what socioeconomic conditions made it possible. I mean how. The point of the question is to highlight that the example in that video demonstrates as a feasible way of moving a large mass, on a flat plane, in the wide open. You've got to now imagine that we aren't moving one stone, but we're moving thousands, and each subsequent stone added is going on top of a structure that is getting higher and more narrow as we go, and all of the material must be moved up the slope of the pyramid without disturbing the placement of the other stones, all while permitting these large wooden tools adequate space to also operate on a narrowing, inclined plane.
I'm also not saying there can be no answer to this question. All I'm saying is that it hasn't been demonstrated. It's one thing to show a means for moving a very large stone without machines. And that's valuable. It answers one question. It just doesn't get us from one big rock to thousands of big rocks stacked into a highly precise structure aligned with other large structures astronomically.
I think you're also overcomplicating when thinking of precise astronomical alignment, it's not that hard if you've figured stellar movement out, which even maya niggers did.
You're still tracking a very distant (thus small) moving object and aligning mega structures with them, which are built 300 ft high using massive stones. I think the tendency is to oversimplify. As I said, I remain agnostic. Is it possible slaves did this? Yes. But I find it strange that just a few centuries prior to these, Egyptians showed no signs of this capability, and within a few centuries afterward, they seem to have also lost that capability. And we're told these structures were built as a means for interring a dead king. To me, it doesn't add up.
On the issue of the ramps, how does this method of using small rocks to move the stones work on an inclined plane, especially as we see the ramps become narrower with height of the structure. I'm not asking you to research this; it's just my intuition that the method used in the video by the guy from Flint, MI is on a flat plane. I don't think this would work on an incline. I could be wrong.
You clearly didn't watch the video. It's not about the fact they built something so large, it's the skill of carving such exquisite granite and diorite pottery and jars (that they used for mummification, and sealed with crude mud and wood caps) Also the amazing statues and figures are poorly carved with hieroglyphics that are left unpolished and bad looking compared to the statues. The later pharos used these things they inherited from the earlier unknown civilization. Even the Egyptians themselves say they inherited their civilization from earlier gods that they emulate.
[ - ] oldblo 1 point 3 yearsMay 18, 2022 04:58:41 ago (+1/-0)
Its not that I expect them to use metal. Just that surely options that were not absurdly heavy and large should have come to mind. Not just for buildings either but for things like using among the hardest known stone for a water jug. One must ask why. How as well.
yes it 100% does. you're in denial. there's never been another super advanced akin to modern day civilization, there's zero evidence for this. meanwhile we have plenty of evidence of caveman retards making shit paintings and tools and jewellery and sculptures in all those time periods.
The key, simple proof that Egyptology is a fraud lies with the weathering of the Sphinx. It has severe water erosion instead of sand erosion. Geologists, and even egyptologists, agree that Egypt has been extremely arid since 7000 B.C. (or earlier). Thus, the Sphinx must have been built significantly before 7000 B.C., but if that is the case, then all Egyptology collapses since part of their mainstream requirement is that there was no significantly advanced civilization in the area until 4500 B.C.
There was even a symposium between a large number of geologists versus egyptologists. While the geologists had their forensic evidence, the egyptologists could only go, "muh narrative collapses if you geologists are right, and therefore your evidence must be wrong."
With all that I've seen I honestly believe the Pyrimids or at least the underground kilometers of tunnels, the amazing granite statues etc, are tens of thousands of years old. Just the amazing granite boxes found under the oldest pyramids are completely impossible for them to make with copper and pounding stones. He has another video about the best example: https://youtu.be/d8Ejf5etV5U
Modern humans have a fossil record that goes back 40,000 years. It's definitely possible thar after the first 10,000 years they were advanced enough to build those structures.
Allegedly. There was no human alive 40k years ago to verify such a claim, anything that is claimed to be more than 7000k years old should be subject to the most rigorous scrutiny. Clearly we know, based on Covid alone, and other fun things, that scientists are full of absolute shit most of the time and make stuff up to fit their preconceived conclusions.
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[ - ] TheSimulacra 0 points 3 yearsMay 18, 2022 12:59:46 ago (+0/-0)
The Incas did it too, half a world away, at the same time!
Funny thing however, both cultures got worse at construction as time went on.
Megalithic structures were not built by Stone Age people. Stone Age people found the pyramids, tried to copy them, and failed miserably.
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Dude from Wise Up channel talks about all the ancient megalithic sites etc are products of being submerged under flood waters for hundreds / thousands of years etc and left under mud and soil.
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STOP BELIEVING GNOSTIC BS
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Darwin's father was a high ranking freemason who used his son to push the evolution agenda. Look it up.
Guess who controls and established the freemasons?
The Jews. They say it themselves.
Evolution is a Jewish lie to undermine the Christian order.
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[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 3 yearsMay 18, 2022 02:00:06 ago (+1/-0)*
(a) These methods are fine to use on an isolated mass, in the open, on a flat surface. Megalithic structures can be found on different kinds of terrain at varying elevations and slopes. Not only this, but structures such as the pyramids are remarkably high. How do we explain movement of multi-ton stones up the kinds of inclines found on the pyramids?
(b) I tend to believe that skepticism over the official story of the pyramids increases among people who have actually built things. There is an intuition a person who builds has for how difficult approaching perfection is, even in very small projects. I'm a woodworker, and I recognize that approaching perfection is something you have to try before you realize what marginal returns look like, i.e. the amount of mastery and years of dedication required just to get minute increases in precision.
Explaining the pyramids is not just a matter of explaining how one moves a (or any single) large stone. The amount of internal symmetry and precision in the pyramids is astounding, together with the fact that their positions with respect to the others (at Giza) shows close astronomical alignment with celestial objects. We're talking about a civilization that existed thousands and thousands of years ago, who only conceivably worked with the crudest practical algebra (and they had no pure mathematics whatsoever).
Further, we are told the work of these pyramids was largely performed by slaves. These kinds of projects strike me as not only requiring a master builder to make plans and supervise, but that they would have been impossible if the workers themselves did not have the knowledge/expertise necessary. It's like saying you could have Rembrandt instruct a low IQ moron in painting, and that 'slave' could produce a Rembrandt.
(c) If techniques like those used in this video were what the Egyptians used, it betrays greater physical and mathematical intelligence than evidence suggests Egyptians really possessed. This is not my point. My point is that, if true, and Egyptians were building mathematically accurate WOOD instruments (of precise lengths for creating the right sized lever arms, yada yada), it seems very strange that such an intelligent race would have foregone the use of wood to build structures. They would have realized the myriad economic advantages of using wood. That is, we are giving them credit for crafting sophisticated wood devices to build with, in order to build theatrically impractical and uneconomical stone megaliths.
Put another way, how do we believe the Egyptians were making contraptions from wood as sophisticated as those seen in this video, but they somehow missed the idea of using wood for making buildings? "Hey, how did the Egyptians move megalithic stones? I've got your answer! First you have to go grab your sophisticated wooden tool and then take that wooden tool over to the actual building materials..."
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[ - ] Hadza 0 points 3 yearsMay 18, 2022 05:02:42 ago (+0/-0)
Thousands of people without wagecuckery to burden them down. You could argue that while modern tech goes steep but not broad, theirs did the opposite, which is why they applied the little knowledge they had of levers and stuff to many things, including huge rocks.
It reminds me of that post about archeological findings of primitive bread like 10k years back. Breakthroughs weren't common, but they had a LOT of time to get implemented, experimented with and refined.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 3 yearsMay 18, 2022 10:57:35 ago (+0/-0)*
I'm also not saying there can be no answer to this question. All I'm saying is that it hasn't been demonstrated. It's one thing to show a means for moving a very large stone without machines. And that's valuable. It answers one question. It just doesn't get us from one big rock to thousands of big rocks stacked into a highly precise structure aligned with other large structures astronomically.
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[ - ] Hadza 0 points 3 yearsMay 19, 2022 07:18:15 ago (+0/-0)
Kinda like this https://youtu.be/YA2UAeFMWFs?t=937
I think you're also overcomplicating when thinking of precise astronomical alignment, it's not that hard if you've figured stellar movement out, which even maya niggers did.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 3 yearsMay 19, 2022 09:41:18 ago (+0/-0)
On the issue of the ramps, how does this method of using small rocks to move the stones work on an inclined plane, especially as we see the ramps become narrower with height of the structure. I'm not asking you to research this; it's just my intuition that the method used in the video by the guy from Flint, MI is on a flat plane. I don't think this would work on an incline. I could be wrong.
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Our metal structures would survive only a few hundred years without humans constant care.
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There was even a symposium between a large number of geologists versus egyptologists. While the geologists had their forensic evidence, the egyptologists could only go, "muh narrative collapses if you geologists are right, and therefore your evidence must be wrong."
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