So basically they're doing exactly what we want them to. Becoming less whorish and invalidating their own "protest" at the same time since being less whorish will just mean less need for abortions. Women are so dumb.
Exactly; this is what happens when they are forced back onto the use of their one real bargaining chip.
If they were as independent as they have been claiming, then the real response would be to start becoming even more promiscuous and trying to have as many babies as possible, so that the society became riddled with situations of babies being left to die in dumpsters and in alleys. That would be the right point to make, if you were these people, not to then contradict yourself and say 'my sex' is valuable on the basis of supply.
What this communicates is that you want abortion for the purpose of lowering the value of your own bargaining chip. I suppose the move here is to suggest that they have the unique ability to drastically increase the supply of sex, without devaluing it. The threat, then, is if any male starts to act as if her sex is becoming devalued, they rapidly 'destock the shelves'.
But all this does is prove the fact that the value of her sexuality isn't a constant. Thus, she is really asking for market -based intervention, to artificially keep the value of her sexuality high, even while she is acting like its used goods.
Why is the intervention (abortion) keeping the value of sex high? Because men have to pay for it with lack of babies? I didnt understand that bit.
The way I see it, sex is cheap and easy because of abortion/birth control. The argument for abortion is that men and women find it hard to control their sexual urges and sometimes make mistakes and create a fetus that is unwanted. No one is to blame, shit happens, blah blah. But its unfair for women to get stuck wih the bill. So the argument goes.
Women are barred from abortion so they use sex as a bargaining chip driving up the cost of sex by decreasing its supply, but in so doing , they undermine their entire argument for abortion, namely that women cant control their sexual urges and must have access to abortion because of this. So they are declaring that women are the gatekeepers of sex and can turn it on and off like a spigot because they dont really need it. Which is basically true in my experience lol!
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 12, 2022 00:25:30 ago (+1/-0)
I may have gone a backward way of making my point. Abortion does not keep the value of sex high. My point was that the response to withhold sex is just affirming what these women would prefer not to be true: that sex is valuable on the basis of its supply. Women are the gatekeepers in any civilized society (civilization begins with men competing for women's choice, rather than just raping who they please; you can't have civilization without marginal paternal certainty).
These women want to have a promiscuous, abortion-tolerant society while maintaining the high value of sex with them. That's the contradiction.
When the abortion rights are threatened, their response, rather than to prove why abortion is important in a promiscuous society, is instead to start withholding sex, confirming that its value does follow supply rules. That exposes the contradiction of the desire to increase its supply without devaluing it.
They really want to turn back the clock to savagery. I mean, I suppose many of these gals dont understand that men’s behaviors will change too in response to the new rules, and men are not going to be inclined to indulge women’s desires and work to give them nice things if they are all going to behave promiscuously. There’s tradeoffs to sexual freedom which they are definitely not considering.
Women have not changed biologically in the 20 years since I was a young roastie. I dont know what its like to be a sheboon or a jewess. Maybe they need dick 7 days a week. But white women are not strung out cock addicts. Thats just some made up shit used to sell pornos. Sex is totally optional for women. They dont need it at all. Some women are hungry for attention, but that is something different.
They were lying. Theyre addicted to the attention. Also theres this competitive thing females do where they try to pretend that they are the biggest sex godess in the group to dominate other women. Could be that.
And so do men. The wealthy chads that use more then their share of women are destroying the market for males in general. Its the fundamental inequality of all polygamous societies.
The benefit to females is access to better quality sperm but at the expense of male investment in their offspring. The benefit to males is that the top half of males is swimming in pussy at the expense of the bottom half of males who have none. There are benefits/consequences for both sexes. But somehow you dont hold the Chads who are hoarding women from you responsible. Female hoarding/opportunistic male sexual competition is presented as a neutral behavior and not at the root of your problems, while wahmenzes are fundamentally hypergamous and to blame for absolutley everything.
Chads need to be shunned. If you dont control polygynous males, white society just turns into the middle east.
Oh I agree. Women lead the dance (they are the authority of "no"), and they SHOULD hold men accountable and maintain integrity and require their men do as well.
But most women (not all) have been convinced by feminism to trade away their dignity and value to feel empowered. To feel like they've accomplished things that the jew has programmed them to feel are important.
I agree that the traditional way was better than this. But I don't have any say in it. I just play the game. I suppose the tradeoff for being surrounded by feminists is the relatively easy access to pussy.
To be fair I'll correct you on one thing. Most of these blackpill, MRA, MGTOW types you reference a lot... For many of them if they just went to the gym a few days a week, bought some well fitting clothes, and developed something similar to a personality - they'd at least gain access to pussy. It's not that they're being (entirely) deprived from the top half, it's that they're not putting in any effort at all
And yes. "Access to pussy". (Some) women have collectively turned women's bodies into a pure commodity that one effectively "subscribes" to. At least, that's how it functionally is for men these days. Make of that what you will. Again, I say traditionalism is better
Everyone else notice the most vocal and outlandish protestors look like swamp creatures and shouldnt even worry about any abortion rulings since no one would ever even get them pregnant? Disgusting swine...
They're full of shit and all making exceptions, but if they weren't this would have the nice side effect that liberal men would have less reasons to simp to them, and more reasons to simp to women on the right (who do exist and are often beautiful)
Yeah probably some or most. Some would def end up in incel circles though, where anti-feminism is gospel. And hopefully grow out of that quickly as better adjusted men that might actually be of some use.
It's great: all the women who get knocked up in red states and abort either die or go to jail. And all women will have less sex overall. Which means men will get less sex.
Liberal chicks are shit in bed. Aside from their entitled attitude that they don't need to contribute anything to a relationship, they aren't even capable of orgasm in most cases due to their permanent emotional hang-ups and self-loathing.
plus MOST of them, you don't want to fuck anyway.Instead of "lack of demand" It suddemly becomes "lack of privilige". Girls are dumb. THEY will NEVER rule unless they PROTECT THEMSELVES.
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Works for most of us, probably.
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If they were as independent as they have been claiming, then the real response would be to start becoming even more promiscuous and trying to have as many babies as possible, so that the society became riddled with situations of babies being left to die in dumpsters and in alleys. That would be the right point to make, if you were these people, not to then contradict yourself and say 'my sex' is valuable on the basis of supply.
What this communicates is that you want abortion for the purpose of lowering the value of your own bargaining chip. I suppose the move here is to suggest that they have the unique ability to drastically increase the supply of sex, without devaluing it. The threat, then, is if any male starts to act as if her sex is becoming devalued, they rapidly 'destock the shelves'.
But all this does is prove the fact that the value of her sexuality isn't a constant. Thus, she is really asking for market -based intervention, to artificially keep the value of her sexuality high, even while she is acting like its used goods.
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The way I see it, sex is cheap and easy because of abortion/birth control. The argument for abortion is that men and women find it hard to control their sexual urges and sometimes make mistakes and create a fetus that is unwanted. No one is to blame, shit happens, blah blah. But its unfair for women to get stuck wih the bill. So the argument goes.
Women are barred from abortion so they use sex as a bargaining chip driving up the cost of sex by decreasing its supply, but in so doing , they undermine their entire argument for abortion, namely that women cant control their sexual urges and must have access to abortion because of this. So they are declaring that women are the gatekeepers of sex and can turn it on and off like a spigot because they dont really need it. Which is basically true in my experience lol!
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Youre not flooding my country with niglets you retarded christ cucks
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These women want to have a promiscuous, abortion-tolerant society while maintaining the high value of sex with them. That's the contradiction.
When the abortion rights are threatened, their response, rather than to prove why abortion is important in a promiscuous society, is instead to start withholding sex, confirming that its value does follow supply rules. That exposes the contradiction of the desire to increase its supply without devaluing it.
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It's not the dynamics you wanna see but women really need to be put back in their place
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The benefit to females is access to better quality sperm but at the expense of male investment in their offspring. The benefit to males is that the top half of males is swimming in pussy at the expense of the bottom half of males who have none. There are benefits/consequences for both sexes. But somehow you dont hold the Chads who are hoarding women from you responsible. Female hoarding/opportunistic male sexual competition is presented as a neutral behavior and not at the root of your problems, while wahmenzes are fundamentally hypergamous and to blame for absolutley everything.
Chads need to be shunned. If you dont control polygynous males, white society just turns into the middle east.
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[ - ] giantprick 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 11, 2022 20:09:34 ago (+0/-0)
But most women (not all) have been convinced by feminism to trade away their dignity and value to feel empowered. To feel like they've accomplished things that the jew has programmed them to feel are important.
I agree that the traditional way was better than this. But I don't have any say in it. I just play the game. I suppose the tradeoff for being surrounded by feminists is the relatively easy access to pussy.
To be fair I'll correct you on one thing. Most of these blackpill, MRA, MGTOW types you reference a lot... For many of them if they just went to the gym a few days a week, bought some well fitting clothes, and developed something similar to a personality - they'd at least gain access to pussy. It's not that they're being (entirely) deprived from the top half, it's that they're not putting in any effort at all
And yes. "Access to pussy". (Some) women have collectively turned women's bodies into a pure commodity that one effectively "subscribes" to. At least, that's how it functionally is for men these days. Make of that what you will. Again, I say traditionalism is better
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is where this belongs.
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Wait a minute. I'm not sure I care for this...
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(Before anyone goes on a rant about Republicans I just used that word for brevity)
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https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-creature-never-has-sex
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