Again, knew it was you just from the subject matter and effort. Dropping by to show more support.
Also, great find. Some things you don't bother trying to find the origins of due to assuming it to be 'timeless' or otherwise before historical records (which Europeans didn't keep before the Hellenic Age, and why Alexandria is the first 'learned' city'). It is somewhat pleasing to know this practice is much more recent.
[ - ] didyouknow [op] 1 point 2 yearsMay 6, 2022 00:55:42 ago (+1/-0)
Thank you! Yes, it is admirable seeing how for the longest time Europeans have resisted circumcision despite the jews attempt to normalise it. While in the U.S it became accepted and normalised, thanks to jews selling circumcision as something medically necessary instead of the usual religious reasons. In Europe, to this day, we can at time see Europeans continue to resist it such as the case with Iceland in which they tried to ban the evil practice of genital mutilation, unfortunately, it is not that easy anymore due to the global power the jew has today so the ban was never passed..
jews used to circumcise their slaves. we used to find the practice so abominable we refused to sell slaves to jews because of this.
Greeks and Romans regarded circumcision as a mutilation of the male genitalia, but the practice is little discussed in Roman literary sources until the second century of the Christian era.[13] There was a circumcision controversy in Early Christianity but this was resolved at the Council of Jerusalem c.50 which made it clear that circumcision of gentile converts to Christianity was not required.[14] Josephus (who changed his allegiance from the Jews to the Roman Flavians) reports that two Roman officers who had taken refuge with Galileans during the war with Rome (early 67 AD) were put under pressure to convert to Judaism. Josephus, declaring that "every one should worship God in accordance with the dictates of his own conscience," claims to have saved the two Gentiles from forced circumcision.[15] After the First Roman-Jewish War, a head tax, the Fiscus Judaicus, was levied against all Jews. According to Suetonius, Domitian (c.90) also applied this tax to those who were circumcisied, even if they claimed they were not Jews. Titus Flavius Clemens was put to death in 95 for adopting Jewish customs. In 96 Nerva relaxed the Jewish tax as applying only to those who professed to be Jews. Sometime between 128 and 132 AD, the emperor Hadrian seems to have temporarily banned circumcision, on pain of death.[16] Antoninus Pius exempted Jews from the ban,[17] as well as Egyptian priests,[18] and Origen (d. ca. 253) says that in his time only Jews were permitted to practice circumcision.[19] Legislation under Constantine, the first Christian emperor, freed any slave who was subjected to circumcision; in the year 339, circumcising a slave became punishable by death.[20]
Although Greco-Roman writers view circumcision as an identifying characteristic of Jews, they believed the practice to have originated in Egypt,[21] and recorded it among peoples they identified as Arab, Syrian, Phoenician, Colchian, and Ethiopian; circumcision was a marker of "the Other".[22] Diaspora Jews might circumcise their male slaves as well as adult male converts and Jewish male infants.[23] According to Catherine Hezser, it is an open question whether Jews of late antiquity refrained from forcibly circumcising their Gentile slaves and whether Romans avoided selling their slaves to Jews in reaction to the prohibition.[24] The Mishnah (compiled about 200 AD) is silent on this point, whereas the Mekhilta de-Rabbi Ishmael (written at the end of the fourth century or later) suggests that Jews might indeed possess uncircumcised slaves
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[ - ] aleleopathic 1 point 2 yearsMay 5, 2022 13:47:50 ago (+1/-0)
Also, great find. Some things you don't bother trying to find the origins of due to assuming it to be 'timeless' or otherwise before historical records (which Europeans didn't keep before the Hellenic Age, and why Alexandria is the first 'learned' city'). It is somewhat pleasing to know this practice is much more recent.
[ + ] didyouknow
[ - ] didyouknow [op] 1 point 2 yearsMay 6, 2022 00:55:42 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] gaybeeye 0 points 2 yearsMay 5, 2022 18:59:19 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Lordbananafist 0 points 2 yearsMay 5, 2022 13:05:27 ago (+0/-0)
was that after they were "expelled" from the country?
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -1 points 2 yearsMay 5, 2022 17:03:29 ago (+0/-1)
Greeks and Romans regarded circumcision as a mutilation of the male genitalia, but the practice is little discussed in Roman literary sources until the second century of the Christian era.[13] There was a circumcision controversy in Early Christianity but this was resolved at the Council of Jerusalem c.50 which made it clear that circumcision of gentile converts to Christianity was not required.[14] Josephus (who changed his allegiance from the Jews to the Roman Flavians) reports that two Roman officers who had taken refuge with Galileans during the war with Rome (early 67 AD) were put under pressure to convert to Judaism. Josephus, declaring that "every one should worship God in accordance with the dictates of his own conscience," claims to have saved the two Gentiles from forced circumcision.[15] After the First Roman-Jewish War, a head tax, the Fiscus Judaicus, was levied against all Jews. According to Suetonius, Domitian (c.90) also applied this tax to those who were circumcisied, even if they claimed they were not Jews. Titus Flavius Clemens was put to death in 95 for adopting Jewish customs. In 96 Nerva relaxed the Jewish tax as applying only to those who professed to be Jews. Sometime between 128 and 132 AD, the emperor Hadrian seems to have temporarily banned circumcision, on pain of death.[16] Antoninus Pius exempted Jews from the ban,[17] as well as Egyptian priests,[18] and Origen (d. ca. 253) says that in his time only Jews were permitted to practice circumcision.[19] Legislation under Constantine, the first Christian emperor, freed any slave who was subjected to circumcision; in the year 339, circumcising a slave became punishable by death.[20]
Although Greco-Roman writers view circumcision as an identifying characteristic of Jews, they believed the practice to have originated in Egypt,[21] and recorded it among peoples they identified as Arab, Syrian, Phoenician, Colchian, and Ethiopian; circumcision was a marker of "the Other".[22] Diaspora Jews might circumcise their male slaves as well as adult male converts and Jewish male infants.[23] According to Catherine Hezser, it is an open question whether Jews of late antiquity refrained from forcibly circumcising their Gentile slaves and whether Romans avoided selling their slaves to Jews in reaction to the prohibition.[24] The Mishnah (compiled about 200 AD) is silent on this point, whereas the Mekhilta de-Rabbi Ishmael (written at the end of the fourth century or later) suggests that Jews might indeed possess uncircumcised slaves