Something I read recently in the comments section of a ZeroHedge article:
Last1Out As for possession. I have been an exorcist (if you want to call it that) now for 22 years. Does take place today just like you read about in the ancient texts just not advertised and hidden not the least by charlatans and people who are just hysterical or want attention. These events are not usually as sensational as you might see in the movies about the subject but if you witness one it will leave you unshakably convinced of the existence of the world behind the world - names out of history, people with little or no education speak phrases in Ugarit, Urdu, Aramaic or ancient Greek. One thing that these entities have repeated now over hundreds of events, "it is the end" and they are clearly not happy about it. Everything that I have seen unfold in the world since this journey began for me has supported that statement screamed out of the distress of a demonic being. And if you wonder, most people, I'll say it again for emphasis. most people - are not people.
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GlobalMapper 4 days ago
@Last1Out
I too have been trained to remove entities from those so afflicted. It is gratifying work but of late is overwhelming as the preponderance of these beings is ever increasing and they are quite nasty. The level of evil amongst us is higher than I have experienced in 65 years.
Soon we will be seeing these entities in the open. People will be literally shitting themselves and dying of fright — especially if they have been vaxxed.
For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
What do we deserve from God? Some think that being good boys and girls entitles us to comfortable, blessed lives. Those people do not understand why we are here in this life. We're in a prison world. We are spirits who could travel time and space at will but are locked in the prison of time and space because we are criminals in the higher dimension. Who runs the prisons in this world? Not really the guards and wardens. The baddest criminals run the prisons. It's the same here.
What if God allows us to experience this because we have chosen this experience? When we put God above our earthly interests, we will no longer be limited to time and space.
The more I learn about humanity, the better I understand his capacity for evil. I know not of gods or devils, but I have seen the depths of mankind's depravity.
Wow, this word play is almost on the level of Jews.
At no point did he say he 'couldn't wrap his head around it', in the sense of not understanding what he was observing. Instead, he was having an attribution issue. He understood the evil was so great that he could not attribute it to the motivations of something merely human.
What's with this 'wizard' title? Is that funny? Or, maybe we say God: an omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient Creator that has been held by a 2,000 year theistic tradition, a being believed in by geniuses the likes of Newton and Kant and most of the intellectual giants of the pre-20th century world - just that glaringly obvious answer that isn't 'wizard'.
Yours was a surprisingly obtuse and retarded way to talk about the alternative to atheism. 'Hey if you're not atheistic, then you must believe in a wizard.'
You took my accusation, turned it around, and essentially repeated it. Cool.
Again, it's a belief that's ubiquitous and thousands of years old, with Christianity being 2,000 years old. No gymnastics are required. The alternative to atheism is not wizardry. If you are going to speak about something with a 2,000 year history, at least know something about it.
I grew up christian. Catechism, sunday school, bible studies, the whole bit.
Then I looked at it objectively and it wasn't for me. To my eyes, there's a magic man in the sky that if you say you love him he will take you to paradise to live forever, and everyone you've ever known will be there and you will spend your days singing for some reason and you will do this forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.
You don't question it because everyone else is doing it "no gymnastics required"? "You don't even have to think about it man". Not to mention the ones who did it for the first 1700 years couldn't read and were afraid of thunderstorms.
I mean believe what you want but... Come on. How do you not see thru that as a control mechanism? We all bitch about them trying to indoctrinate our children to their way of thinking. Where do you think "they" learned it? Getting them when they're young works. And that is exactly how christianity is continued.
I think we have to take care to differentiate between the function of religious meetings (the ways that religious truths can be portrayed for the sake of people, i.e. their psychological needs), and the more erudite religious truths of philosophy and theology. There is a way of talking about heaven that's appropriate for a gathering on any given Sunday, and then the fact that nobody actually knows what the state of experience we call heaven is like (but how does that do for a Sunday service?). We can acknowledge that it is a mystery that we can know logically is good - the highest possible good - but that the way we portray this in church meetings is just a dull image. The view of heaven in which we sing in a choir with all of our friends and loved ones is just a limited way of projecting an ideal we are aiming for, but ultimately fails in a strictly linguistic sense to refer to what it aims to. We have faith in heaven, but the way we talk about heaven is human. You can see the humanity in it, grasp that it falls short, but still your faith tells you it points in the right direction.
You don't question it because everyone else is doing it "no gymnastics required"?
My statement was not argument ad populum. I only picked out that there was a tradition with a theologically sophisticated description of God and its relation to the world, to offset that longstanding tradition against the dismissiveness of calling that being a 'wizard'. I wanted to counter the belittling attitude. God has a description that is sophisticated (the God of classical theism, of Aquinas for example). It is much, much more than a cartoonish depiction of a wizard, and it does a great disservice to some of the most brilliant minds that ever lived who treated that being with much greater respect.
Not to mention the ones who did it for the first 1700 years couldn't read and were afraid of thunderstorms.
This is just profoundly wrong. Please see Augustine of Hippo for just one of a plethora of examples of early Christians who were brilliant minds (writers and rhetoricians). He lived in the 300s AD. Here is an example of what I was speaking to above; your understanding of Christianity is impoverished. We've lost the tradition and that's why these belittling portrayals of its truths 'get by' in the world today, why someone can get away with portraying God as a wizard in the sky, or a spaghetti monster. It's total inanity and pseudo-intellectualism that passes as legitimate because the public is less sharp en masse.
How do you not see thru that as a control mechanism?
Do you believe in truth? I ask because if there is one truth about reality, then it would be good to know that truth, no? But if it is just one truth, and not many, and if it would be good for a people to know it, then that situation will always look like a form of control.
2 + 2 = 4 2 + 2 != 5
Would you agree that 2 + 2 = 4 = True is universally true? Is it a system of control to teach all of the youth in our nation this fact? Or should we let them be free of control to believe 2 + 2 = 5? Is Common Core mathematics liberating? You see how quickly your attitude, when it becomes secular only, starts to look like modern liberalism.
If your definition of a situation that is not 'controlled' is people believing many different things, then you have a recipe for either (a) relativism or (b) a lot of people in your society who don't know the truth.
There is always indoctrination. Education always happens in youth. It's just what we do with the young. Could you give me an example of where that isn't true, even in a world without religion? Suppose you are raising a child with what you current hold to be true, would you not be indoctrinating that child against religion? You see, all of these things are possible to portray in different lights. If you desire to portray something as an evil system of control, you can do it. It's easy.
Ditto. Although, after my Uncle died, I felt something that was like a force comforting me I don't believe everything in the Bible, but I believe in God.
Now would be a good time to look at Paganism. Not necessarily to practice it yourself, but you're in the right state of mind to understand WHY it keeps coming up in pro-White circles. That understanding will serve you well no matter what you ultimately decide to do, and best case it will be life changing like it was for me. I'm not exaggerating, just learning about it turned my entire concept of what religion is on its head.
You're on the right track that religion does matter and evil is unfortunately very real.
I like your comment. You didn’t try to sway OP towards your beliefs. You only offered an avenue to explore and to see for himself. You also didn’t state your opinion on the subject. One could guess what you believe by the last sentence but there would be no way to know for sure what you believe about religion. Top quality comment there.
Thank you for saying that. I'm very torn between the importance of White unity for our struggle and some uncomfortable aspects of the religious question. I try very hard to be constructive when I approach the topic.
You're right. I'm actually just realizing the amount of garbage I've had to sort through over the past few years just to find what little I know. There's not a ton out there. Also not every White is of German or Norse blood. Roman, Greek, Celtic, or Slavic Pagans will be looking into completely different things.
For (semi) original source material there are the Eddas of course. Jackson Crawford has an excellent kiketube channel on old norse topics. I remember watching a fair amount of Survive the Jive when I was first learning, some good stuff there although plenty is off-topic from what I cared about. He did have one particularly good video on how Pagans prayed. Any non-Christian sources that talk about the Christianization process of Europe are key reading and make a lot of what's happening today make more sense. Also anyone explaining the difference between actual Paganism and the spooky stuff that got associated with the more recent movement (think witchy newage types) that was basically made up in the mid-late 1900s. A lot of it came from conversation with anons scattered wherever I could find them.
And while reading about all these things you want to ask yourself things like, what makes people form a religion(old or new)? What do they get from it? What makes religion different for different groups of people and why does their way make sense to them? Looking at other religions you're not connected to helps too, you can really think about them without the everyday assumptions you grew up with. Like really picturing an ancient egyptian family where some family members are more religious than others and how that would have played out in their household and community. Understand the sheer power that exists behind religion. (Which helps you understand why a group who wants to enslave the world would also want the reputation of being a priestly or spiritual people)
And if you really want to experience it and not just learn about it, you can connect with your blood and ancestors going back thousands of years into the dim light of ancient prehistory. Follow the basic form, present a gift to an old God of your choice, ask for something in return, and listen for an answer. It feels awkward and silly the first time but once it "clicks" and the Gods answer you... there really are no words to describe it and that's the religious part.
I ordered 2 books at the weekend on this. Tbought I'd have a look at european belief systems as I am european not middle eastern. What have you been reading? Interested in good sources
My suggestion would be to look to your ancestors and see what worked for them over the majority of their existence. Chances are it was something that kept them intact as a nation and promoted positive values.
As Dutton says, religion just takes evolutionarily sound practices and turn them into the “will of god” etc
I don't see the conflict there. Harmonious behaviour which produces a strong nation is obviously in accordance with the will of the gods. If it weren't they wouldn't reward it.
You are such a fucking retard. He didn’t even imply we should copy the everyday life of our ancestors, you fucking monkey. He is suggesting to look at the belief systems and values they held that ensured their success etc
I mostly look at human programming and inherently evil groups instead of religion. Though to be sure, religion is certainly a primary way to program large groups.
Of course, without kikes, niggers, spics, and other assorted shitskins the world would be a much better place. Not a place without evil, merely that it would be unknown to 99%.
The atheists are some of the most pious npcs around. I would say that the marxist groups are very religious, and don't understand why a religion has to be recognized as such by the state to exist.
Holy shit, have I got the books for you. I know you didn't ask me but I consider myself a Lewisian scholar so I must interject. In terms of fiction: the Space trilogy (may take several readings to digest) and The Pilgrim's Regress. There are others but I think those highlight the topic of this thread really well: the presence of evil being a convincing proof of God.
Pilgrim's Regress is semi autobiographical and because of that it's a bit obscure. Many critics would say it's his worst book but I personally loved it and besides, Lewis's worst is better than many an author's best.
Also great choices but I think they have less to do with the topic at hand from a philosophical stand point and more to do with it from a theological one.
Yeah same here. The more i see the works of the devil, the bigger the resolve against it. I will not choose a specific religion, just know that i want human intelligence and wisdom to flourish, not perish. The devil seems to be automatic, like a beast. Its only goal is to destroy human intelligence and wisdom and make humans automatic beasts. It's logical what we see in the world lately: Microchipping humans into automation and make slaves to the whims and physical desires.
That evil is jewish sorcery. Study the religions of your ancestors that jews tried to erase. Study jewish religions from the perspective of knowing your enemy. Learn to decipher the magical symbolism jews use to hide their schemes in plain sight.
I have transformed my view of religions dramatically, and now everything makes much more sense.
It is hard to articulate, but basically any group of thoughts will be tried (similar to evolution) over time, and ones that are stable will sustain their people. Populations in general will have a proportion of NPCs and thinkers (priest class), and they will need to have canon "beliefs", rituals, stories, etc.
Nope. It's bad enough I live under the rule of the kikes and their warped concept that every who isn't a jew is a soul less animal. I am not relying on some "god" or "religion" to bail us out of this one.
I found myself kind of doing this also. @CognitiveDissonance5 put me onto Jerry Marzinsky, a dude who came to the conclusion that schizophrenia is caused by evil entities. I thought if these things can exist then their antithesis (divine beings) must also exist.
In regards to turning to religion, I think that onr should take elements from the various ancient religions to reach their own understanding of the divine/evil ethereal realm/entities. While organised religions might be good for potential socialization, faith and religion should not be regimented by potentially corrupted social structures.
There is nothing lamer than a grown adult wrestling with the notion to entertain jewish fairy tales as a coping mechanism.
It would be slightly less shameful if an alcoholic would relapse and return to depressants to drown out their sorrows, knowing full well they were incapable of controlling their addiction.
This was my first step back to God. My second was confliction over a lot of data regarding health and nutrition and I asked for a sign to help me choose a side. I got one. Was formerly an atheist.
Yep i realised it was in my own family and havent seen them in ... must be pushing 5 years now, just managed to get stuck into a career (rather than a job) then the batshit insane became the normal.
A quote, hopefully applicable in your case: "Change your ways, and the evil I see may be averted. Come back to the Way of Liberation and you shall be free".
Well, I'm not. The older I get, the more insight I have into what motivates people. I don't claim to know a lot about the spiritual domain, but it's blatant that humans are plugged into it. Call it what you want, but we have the capacity for good and evil within us, the ability to discern the two, and we are motivated by both.
We've tried religion, we've pretty much tried everything and all of it lead us to this moment in time. The only thing we haven't tried yet is to utilize or create new technologies. We need to look to the future to solve our problems, not the past.
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Last1Out
As for possession. I have been an exorcist (if you want to call it that) now for 22 years. Does take place today just like you read about in the ancient texts just not advertised and hidden not the least by charlatans and people who are just hysterical or want attention. These events are not usually as sensational as you might see in the movies about the subject but if you witness one it will leave you unshakably convinced of the existence of the world behind the world - names out of history, people with little or no education speak phrases in Ugarit, Urdu, Aramaic or ancient Greek. One thing that these entities have repeated now over hundreds of events, "it is the end" and they are clearly not happy about it. Everything that I have seen unfold in the world since this journey began for me has supported that statement screamed out of the distress of a demonic being. And if you wonder, most people, I'll say it again for emphasis. most people - are not people.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-bidens-new-russia-hoaxer-disinfo-queen-goes-full-libs-tiktok
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I scrolled down a bit further and found this comment:
GlobalMapper 4 days ago
@Last1Out
I too have been trained to remove entities from those so afflicted. It is gratifying work but of late is overwhelming as the preponderance of these beings is ever increasing and they are quite nasty. The level of evil amongst us is higher than I have experienced in 65 years.
Soon we will be seeing these entities in the open. People will be literally shitting themselves and dying of fright — especially if they have been vaxxed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5_1Lz1ldZc
Keep in mind he is a Jesuit.
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able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
--Epicurus.
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-KJV Bible
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Some think that being good boys and girls entitles us to comfortable, blessed lives. Those people do not understand why we are here in this life. We're in a prison world. We are spirits who could travel time and space at will but are locked in the prison of time and space because we are criminals in the higher dimension. Who runs the prisons in this world? Not really the guards and wardens. The baddest criminals run the prisons. It's the same here.
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There's definitely something Spiritual behind it.
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At no point did he say he 'couldn't wrap his head around it', in the sense of not understanding what he was observing. Instead, he was having an attribution issue. He understood the evil was so great that he could not attribute it to the motivations of something merely human.
What's with this 'wizard' title? Is that funny? Or, maybe we say God: an omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient Creator that has been held by a 2,000 year theistic tradition, a being believed in by geniuses the likes of Newton and Kant and most of the intellectual giants of the pre-20th century world - just that glaringly obvious answer that isn't 'wizard'.
Yours was a surprisingly obtuse and retarded way to talk about the alternative to atheism. 'Hey if you're not atheistic, then you must believe in a wizard.'
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Again, it's a belief that's ubiquitous and thousands of years old, with Christianity being 2,000 years old. No gymnastics are required. The alternative to atheism is not wizardry. If you are going to speak about something with a 2,000 year history, at least know something about it.
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Then I looked at it objectively and it wasn't for me. To my eyes, there's a magic man in the sky that if you say you love him he will take you to paradise to live forever, and everyone you've ever known will be there and you will spend your days singing for some reason and you will do this forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.
You don't question it because everyone else is doing it "no gymnastics required"? "You don't even have to think about it man". Not to mention the ones who did it for the first 1700 years couldn't read and were afraid of thunderstorms.
I mean believe what you want but... Come on. How do you not see thru that as a control mechanism? We all bitch about them trying to indoctrinate our children to their way of thinking. Where do you think "they" learned it? Getting them when they're young works. And that is exactly how christianity is continued.
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To my eyes
I think we have to take care to differentiate between the function of religious meetings (the ways that religious truths can be portrayed for the sake of people, i.e. their psychological needs), and the more erudite religious truths of philosophy and theology. There is a way of talking about heaven that's appropriate for a gathering on any given Sunday, and then the fact that nobody actually knows what the state of experience we call heaven is like (but how does that do for a Sunday service?). We can acknowledge that it is a mystery that we can know logically is good - the highest possible good - but that the way we portray this in church meetings is just a dull image. The view of heaven in which we sing in a choir with all of our friends and loved ones is just a limited way of projecting an ideal we are aiming for, but ultimately fails in a strictly linguistic sense to refer to what it aims to. We have faith in heaven, but the way we talk about heaven is human. You can see the humanity in it, grasp that it falls short, but still your faith tells you it points in the right direction.
My statement was not argument ad populum. I only picked out that there was a tradition with a theologically sophisticated description of God and its relation to the world, to offset that longstanding tradition against the dismissiveness of calling that being a 'wizard'. I wanted to counter the belittling attitude. God has a description that is sophisticated (the God of classical theism, of Aquinas for example). It is much, much more than a cartoonish depiction of a wizard, and it does a great disservice to some of the most brilliant minds that ever lived who treated that being with much greater respect.
This is just profoundly wrong. Please see Augustine of Hippo for just one of a plethora of examples of early Christians who were brilliant minds (writers and rhetoricians). He lived in the 300s AD. Here is an example of what I was speaking to above; your understanding of Christianity is impoverished. We've lost the tradition and that's why these belittling portrayals of its truths 'get by' in the world today, why someone can get away with portraying God as a wizard in the sky, or a spaghetti monster. It's total inanity and pseudo-intellectualism that passes as legitimate because the public is less sharp en masse.
Do you believe in truth? I ask because if there is one truth about reality, then it would be good to know that truth, no? But if it is just one truth, and not many, and if it would be good for a people to know it, then that situation will always look like a form of control.
2 + 2 = 4
2 + 2 != 5
Would you agree that 2 + 2 = 4 = True is universally true? Is it a system of control to teach all of the youth in our nation this fact? Or should we let them be free of control to believe 2 + 2 = 5? Is Common Core mathematics liberating? You see how quickly your attitude, when it becomes secular only, starts to look like modern liberalism.
If your definition of a situation that is not 'controlled' is people believing many different things, then you have a recipe for either (a) relativism or (b) a lot of people in your society who don't know the truth.
There is always indoctrination. Education always happens in youth. It's just what we do with the young. Could you give me an example of where that isn't true, even in a world without religion? Suppose you are raising a child with what you current hold to be true, would you not be indoctrinating that child against religion? You see, all of these things are possible to portray in different lights. If you desire to portray something as an evil system of control, you can do it. It's easy.
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You're on the right track that religion does matter and evil is unfortunately very real.
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For (semi) original source material there are the Eddas of course. Jackson Crawford has an excellent kiketube channel on old norse topics. I remember watching a fair amount of Survive the Jive when I was first learning, some good stuff there although plenty is off-topic from what I cared about. He did have one particularly good video on how Pagans prayed. Any non-Christian sources that talk about the Christianization process of Europe are key reading and make a lot of what's happening today make more sense. Also anyone explaining the difference between actual Paganism and the spooky stuff that got associated with the more recent movement (think witchy newage types) that was basically made up in the mid-late 1900s. A lot of it came from conversation with anons scattered wherever I could find them.
And while reading about all these things you want to ask yourself things like, what makes people form a religion(old or new)? What do they get from it? What makes religion different for different groups of people and why does their way make sense to them? Looking at other religions you're not connected to helps too, you can really think about them without the everyday assumptions you grew up with. Like really picturing an ancient egyptian family where some family members are more religious than others and how that would have played out in their household and community. Understand the sheer power that exists behind religion. (Which helps you understand why a group who wants to enslave the world would also want the reputation of being a priestly or spiritual people)
And if you really want to experience it and not just learn about it, you can connect with your blood and ancestors going back thousands of years into the dim light of ancient prehistory. Follow the basic form, present a gift to an old God of your choice, ask for something in return, and listen for an answer. It feels awkward and silly the first time but once it "clicks" and the Gods answer you... there really are no words to describe it and that's the religious part.
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E: also, what kept our ancestors intact for millennia was obviously a strong in-group preference and out-group bias.
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I don't see the conflict there. Harmonious behaviour which produces a strong nation is obviously in accordance with the will of the gods. If it weren't they wouldn't reward it.
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everyday life 50 years ago is incomparable
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[ - ] mikenigger -1 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 17:01:57 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Ragnar
[ - ] Ragnar 2 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 17:33:42 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 1 point 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 17:36:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer 5 points 2 yearsMay 2, 2022 23:59:19 ago (+5/-0)
Of course, without kikes, niggers, spics, and other assorted shitskins the world would be a much better place. Not a place without evil, merely that it would be unknown to 99%.
[ + ] GoldenAgeWhen
[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 1 point 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 08:54:57 ago (+3/-2)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 13:05:10 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] KeepPoal4fags
[ - ] KeepPoal4fags 3 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 05:53:53 ago (+3/-0)*
Tolkien and C.S.Lewis adressed this topic directly in their works, and were very public about what they meant by it.
The intercessions of the Valar are not readily perceivable, while the deeds of evil are obvious and relentless.
[ + ] Yargiyankooli
[ - ] Yargiyankooli 1 point 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 08:28:35 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DonaldJTrump
[ - ] DonaldJTrump 4 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 10:12:28 ago (+4/-0)
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[ + ] DonaldJTrump
[ - ] DonaldJTrump 2 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 12:56:08 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Yargiyankooli
[ - ] Yargiyankooli 1 point 2 yearsMay 4, 2022 15:35:10 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Ragnar
[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 16:59:31 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 12:15:00 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DonaldJTrump
[ - ] DonaldJTrump 1 point 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 12:57:56 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Yargiyankooli
[ - ] Yargiyankooli 1 point 2 yearsMay 4, 2022 15:34:28 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 13:11:06 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] albatrosv15
[ - ] albatrosv15 3 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 03:19:16 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 11:10:41 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Rob3122
[ - ] Rob3122 3 points 2 yearsMay 2, 2022 22:54:52 ago (+4/-1)
[ + ] GoldenAgeWhen
[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 2 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 08:51:49 ago (+2/-0)
It is hard to articulate, but basically any group of thoughts will be tried (similar to evolution) over time, and ones that are stable will sustain their people. Populations in general will have a proportion of NPCs and thinkers (priest class), and they will need to have canon "beliefs", rituals, stories, etc.
[ + ] RobertJHarsh
[ - ] RobertJHarsh 2 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 08:33:09 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] texasblood
[ - ] texasblood 2 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 04:54:56 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] beanbagWizard
[ - ] beanbagWizard 2 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 03:49:31 ago (+2/-0)
In regards to turning to religion, I think that onr should take elements from the various ancient religions to reach their own understanding of the divine/evil ethereal realm/entities. While organised religions might be good for potential socialization, faith and religion should not be regimented by potentially corrupted social structures.
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 2 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 02:55:46 ago (+2/-0)*
[ + ] Brewpot
[ - ] Brewpot 1 point 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 09:46:04 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DonaldJTrump
[ - ] DonaldJTrump 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 10:03:15 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] boekanier
[ - ] boekanier 2 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 01:33:46 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 13:20:53 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] 2Drunk
[ - ] 2Drunk 1 point 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 09:28:02 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 06:27:48 ago (+2/-1)
It would be slightly less shameful if an alcoholic would relapse and return to depressants to drown out their sorrows, knowing full well they were incapable of controlling their addiction.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 13:14:52 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] TheDivineLight
[ - ] TheDivineLight 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 13:56:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 13:47:26 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Typhoon8
[ - ] Typhoon8 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 13:42:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] kes8
[ - ] kes8 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 11:39:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 08:06:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] doginventer
[ - ] doginventer 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 06:20:56 ago (+1/-1)
Matthew 5 KJV
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 05:17:46 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] boekanier
[ - ] boekanier 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 04:48:34 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] boekanier
[ - ] boekanier 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 04:03:11 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 02:43:48 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] 1234lkjh
[ - ] 1234lkjh 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 02:30:03 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 3 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 02:44:12 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Swej_Ehtsag
[ - ] Swej_Ehtsag 0 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 01:50:24 ago (+4/-4)
[ + ] Cantaloupe
[ - ] Cantaloupe 0 points 2 yearsMay 2, 2022 23:38:45 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 12:17:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsMay 2, 2022 23:21:35 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] WhiteCollarCriminal
[ - ] WhiteCollarCriminal 0 points 2 yearsMay 2, 2022 22:54:16 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Brewpot
[ - ] Brewpot -1 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 09:53:37 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -2 points 2 yearsMay 3, 2022 00:58:28 ago (+0/-2)