35 or so years free on the street doing his dirt. If there is no afterlife, then this monster has won: He will spend the rest of his life in prison, but statistically, that will only be another 6 years or so until he dies, yet he has free after raping kids for much, much longer.
[ - ] dassar 1 point 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 04:32:46 ago (+1/-0)
Oh to wish he gets shanked. Once when much younger , i fell for the trap that Prison needed reform (too harsh , not enough opportunities etc) I now know that to be entirely misguided and the result of kike social justice manipulation. Prison should be a place of complete isolation from society (and from other inmates) Just like the High Security Russian Prisons in middle nowhere Siberia - no talking between inmates - made to stand in cells all day if not working or eating lunch - whenever they are moved out of their cell it's handcuff and bent over - duck walking. Fck em.
If someone cannot be reformed and no longer has any place in society then they should be exiled. Finding somewhere to go is their problem and once they're out they no longer have the protection of the law.
If someone can be reformed then they should be the one paying for the required security and compensating their victim.
Yeh, no arguments here. Although that equates to a South American style Prison where Inmates with some wealth or connection can end up running the Prison or those that are broke simply exist with nothing, no toilet paper and no toothbrush.
If someone can afford to provide sufficient security to convince the court society is safe from them, compensate their victims and they still have enough left over to live comfortably then I'm fine with that. Their freedom is already heavily restricted as a result of their actions and if they committed a serious crime then it will be for life. The primary concern is preventing future crimes and ensuring the victim's suffering is alleviated.
As for broke people ending up with less... that's life. I don't see why committing a crime should earn you welfare. In practice an adult human of reasonable intelligence is useful enough that there should be someone willing to give them the bare essentials + security in exchange for them doing basic work. There is no way 40 hours of assembling widgets every week wouldn't earn them a cot and three meals a day.
Competition also helps prevent abuse: Prisons will have to ensure safe conditions and compete for desireable inmates. Shitheels who cause nothing but trouble will end up whittling down their options until they end up in a hellhole.
Not that i disagree entirely, however it always has to be remembered that many end in Prison bc of corrupt Law enforcement/ Prosecution / Judicial systems. Also an argument for whether 'punishment' is simply being incarcerated with the loss of normal freedoms or if incarceration involve extra-judicial punishment as matter of course - The jan 6th crowd would be an example of this extra-judicial punishment before one has even been charged or convicted yet.
Not that i disagree entirely, however it always has to be remembered that many end in Prison bc of corrupt Law enforcement/ Prosecution / Judicial systems.
Yes, those need to be exposed to competition also. Wrongful convictions are going to be problem in any system but I'd argue my proposals present the best set of options for such a person:
- They haven't been permanently deprived of anything other than time and money. Money can be compensated if their guilt is later cast into doubt.
- If they are genuinely a law abiding and peaceful person they'll be well placed to find a secure facility offering them reasonably good conditions.
By contrast, in the existing public system they'll be placed in whatever facility the judge/prison bureau see fit and subjected to whatever conditions they please. There is no recourse or opportunity to build something better. The most they might hope for is be able to appeal to a higher court for better conditions, but that's a very high bar and potentially exposes them to retaliation.
In my system a corrupt and vengeful judge might set unreasonably high security standards for political prosecutees, but if it's up to them to decide how those standards are met they can still be spared extrajudicial punishement. In the worse case scenario their supporters could fundraise the construction of a facility where their rights are guaranteed.
Ah yes, there use to be several different sites that tracked these statistics but like everything they appear to eventually disappear unless they find significant ongoing resources to continue operating.
[ + ] Reawakened
[ - ] Reawakened 2 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 06:24:33 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] TheBigGuyFromQueens
[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 1 point 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 01:21:04 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] dassar
[ - ] dassar 1 point 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 04:32:46 ago (+1/-0)
Once when much younger , i fell for the trap that Prison needed reform (too harsh , not enough opportunities etc) I now know that to be entirely misguided and the result of kike social justice manipulation.
Prison should be a place of complete isolation from society (and from other inmates) Just like the High Security Russian Prisons in middle nowhere Siberia - no talking between inmates - made to stand in cells all day if not working or eating lunch - whenever they are moved out of their cell it's handcuff and bent over - duck walking. Fck em.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 08:54:16 ago (+0/-0)
If someone cannot be reformed and no longer has any place in society then they should be exiled. Finding somewhere to go is their problem and once they're out they no longer have the protection of the law.
If someone can be reformed then they should be the one paying for the required security and compensating their victim.
[ + ] dassar
[ - ] dassar 0 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 18:28:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 20:36:11 ago (+0/-0)
As for broke people ending up with less... that's life. I don't see why committing a crime should earn you welfare. In practice an adult human of reasonable intelligence is useful enough that there should be someone willing to give them the bare essentials + security in exchange for them doing basic work. There is no way 40 hours of assembling widgets every week wouldn't earn them a cot and three meals a day.
Competition also helps prevent abuse: Prisons will have to ensure safe conditions and compete for desireable inmates. Shitheels who cause nothing but trouble will end up whittling down their options until they end up in a hellhole.
[ + ] dassar
[ - ] dassar 0 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 22:05:49 ago (+0/-0)
Also an argument for whether 'punishment' is simply being incarcerated with the loss of normal freedoms or if incarceration involve extra-judicial punishment as matter of course - The jan 6th crowd would be an example of this extra-judicial punishment before one has even been charged or convicted yet.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 22:17:39 ago (+0/-0)
Yes, those need to be exposed to competition also. Wrongful convictions are going to be problem in any system but I'd argue my proposals present the best set of options for such a person:
- They haven't been permanently deprived of anything other than time and money. Money can be compensated if their guilt is later cast into doubt.
- If they are genuinely a law abiding and peaceful person they'll be well placed to find a secure facility offering them reasonably good conditions.
By contrast, in the existing public system they'll be placed in whatever facility the judge/prison bureau see fit and subjected to whatever conditions they please. There is no recourse or opportunity to build something better. The most they might hope for is be able to appeal to a higher court for better conditions, but that's a very high bar and potentially exposes them to retaliation.
In my system a corrupt and vengeful judge might set unreasonably high security standards for political prosecutees, but if it's up to them to decide how those standards are met they can still be spared extrajudicial punishement. In the worse case scenario their supporters could fundraise the construction of a facility where their rights are guaranteed.
[ + ] RMGoetbbels
[ - ] RMGoetbbels 0 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 17:31:50 ago (+0/-0)
I can't tell you how often I've read stories about cops diddling kids. IT'S A LOT.
So much so someone created a website a few years ago but I don't think he maintains it anymore.........This Week's Charge of Child Molestation by your Local Police
Back the Blue!
[ + ] dassar
[ - ] dassar 0 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 22:09:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Qwertytoal
[ - ] Qwertytoal 0 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 16:04:54 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] KyleIsThisTall
[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 0 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 12:10:51 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 09:24:06 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 2 yearsApr 28, 2022 01:35:20 ago (+0/-0)