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Christianity Is Not a ''Foreign'' Religion, Paganism Equals White Disunity [longform]

submitted by CHIRO to whatever 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 12:04:10 ago (+4/-8)     (whatever)

(1.) Though the message may have received words in the mouth of an ethnic Jew, the words that were spoken transcended Judaism and excluded Christianity from Judaism thereafter. The non-exclusivity of Christianity is what excludes it from Judaism. They are not the same. Does it make sense to refer to Americans as something distinct (as a people, a nation, and a place) from England? Furthermore, does it make sense if someone accuses American-ism of being a foreign entity, because the people who would become Americans originated ethnically in England? No.

If someone made this accusation, you would accuse them of a categorical error. America battled to distinguish its independence from England. Likewise, Christianity battled to distinguish itself from all of its points of origin.

"Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all, and in all." (Colossians 3:11)

(2.) The objects of religion, to which a true religion must point, are not creations of mankind. Pagans will protest that Christianity is not a product of Europe. "Look", they say, "there is no European to be found in Christian holy texts!" They surmise it is a grave concern, but, as we shall see, it is trivial.

Religion is not a clothing style. It is not a kind of cuisine, or a demographic item. The stuff of religion is the stuff of metaphysics, so it pertains to such concepts as: Being, essence, the nature of the world and of man, and to ultimate reality. If there is a truth about ultimate reality, then it is singular. There is only one way for a religion to be true, i.e. if it is true from the vantage of everything that exists.

From this we can derive three things. Any religion which is possibly a true religion and knows this about itself, must claim that it is the religion. Second, only one religion can actually make such a claim true. Third: religion is a oneness, not a plurality. Thus, any religion that claims to be true for a specific ethnic group, on the basis of its material connection to the history of said group, is claiming that truth about God is plural. For all men desire truth, therefore if a pagan claims the truth of his religion is contingently bound to his people's particular history, he has denied the truth of his God to others. But a God that is true for all is greater than a God that is true for some.

If a believer cannot say, "My religion is not my own, but is properly subordinated to the one, true God; it cannot fail to be true even for my enemy, though he does not know it", then his tradition is not the true religion.

(3.) Still, there is an undeniable repulsion in the White spirit when someone points out that the Torah was physically written down by the very people we consider our enemies.

This is an error of misattribution, for if the true enemy was understood, the claimant would grasp that the enemy is sin. The Jew is just one gatekeeper of this fundamental temptation.

Yet, imagine a world without any Jews! Do you suppose it would be a world with no strife, no backstabbing, no wars, no rat race, no resentment, no corruption? If you think so, then you have no claim to religion whatever, for you have failed to grasp it in its rudiments.

Since well after the days of Rome, the Jew has accomplished nothing militarily. The Jew has relied on permissions from the gentile at every step. Every machination is activated when and where we have said 'yes', where we have become lax, where our natural evils were prodded and we, as people of God, failed to resist temptation.

The pagan will look to the example of Nazi Germany and say, "Yes, but look at the monolithic unity of the inflamed white identity, how galvanized by this idea, we coalesced against the Jew." Does the pagan then also suppose that they were Norse gods who caused that unity? That the Norse gods were the fabric that united the White cloth?

No. This unified and radiant European identity was possible to concentrate in Germany because of the Jew. Could you imagine it the same way if no Jew had ever existed? Yet, before Weimar Germany, did the deities of the Druids unite all of White Europe into solidarity by themselves? They could not have, else the Jewish problem could have never become a problem!

The Jew is an ethnoreligious materialization of the common enemy of man, and the nature of the Jewish problem is similar to the nature of man's problem with infection. Wash your mouth out with antiseptic. Within seconds bacteria are repopulating. Bleach a surface. Return in an hour, and bacteria are flourishing. If man killed the Jew, the Jew would return in an even more concealed, cryptic form - as one of his own! When we feel unthreatened by our common enemy: sin (for example, when we identify it too strongly with something physical, and eradicate that thing), we grow weak, and the enemy's true self materializes more and more closely at our core.

In this way, ancient pagan tradition had no use for us. It might unite us ritually, but it cannot unite us in identifying our true metaphysical enemy. If we do think that enemy is the Jew, we ought to take seriously what the Jew says about the nature of ultimate reality. On the one hand, a person who does miraculous goods gives support to what he says about God. On the other hand, a person who does supernatural evil as successfully as the Jew does, must also know something truer about the nature of ultimate reality. To do good in the name of God is merely the opposite side of the coin from doing great evil against Him.

The Jew does not claim to do evil against Odin. The Jew gnashes his teeth and snarls at Christ.

(4.) If we believe that our enemy is evil, then the degree to which our faith and tradition can endure evil is a sign of its truth. Paganism could not survive in the presence of the Abrahamic faiths. It was overcome by Catholicism, but since your premise is that Catholicism is a Jewish invention to undermine paganism, pointing this out will not help me. I can also say with unshakeable confidence that Islam would have assimilated paganism equally, if not more forcibly. I can point to a religion I consider less true than my own, but truer generally, and say that my quasi-enemy would have also bowled over your pagan tribes.

Islam, too, is a great enemy of the Jews. Are we noticing a theme? The truest religions share in several key features: they identify the proper enemy, and they successfully unite people in a way that endures against that enemy.

Paganism could not do this. It couldn't then. It could not today.

(5.) Lest we forget, the absolute height (intellectually and culturally) of all pagan tradition was the Greeks. The pagan Greeks, from middle Platonism onward, recognized one God (The One). These pagans distinguished themselves from barbarian pagans to the north and west.

Catholicism did not erase the Greek tradition. It absorbed it. The Greeks prefigured and anticipated the Christian theology, and Catholicism merely united Platonism and Aristotelianism in a way that perfected the earlier pagan tradition. How quickly you forget that the Christian tradition was attacked because of its pagan origins!

Now look here, the Jew attacks Christ. The Germanic pagan attacks Christian's Jewish origins. The Protestant attacks Christianity's pagan origins and contents.

Hilariously, members of our community will attack groups like the Illuminati for their sun worship and pagan/occult aspects, then turn around and say Christianity is too Jewish, and so we must demand a return to paganism! Which is it?

Catholicism assimilated both the intellectual revelation (philosophy) of the Greek pagans together with the faith revelation of Jewish followers of Jesus Christ. It is something different from what it assimilated, and it transcends what it assimilated. Catholicism perfected the imperfections of its sources, which is just what we think proper progress does. To become more correct is to perfect one's previous errors.

Christianity is neither only Greek, or only Hebrew. Christianity is consummately Europe. It took the highest genius of the Greeks and united it to the interpretation of the most moral Being of the Hebrew world, Jesus (who reprimanded the Jewish people and stated explicitly that their religion had become the synagogue of Satan). There would be no Christianity without the Greek pagans.

"I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars - I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you." (Revelation 3:9)

(6.) If we consider why traditions in the Abrahamic category were vastly more successful than their pagan counterparts, we can point to how they ordered sexual dynamics by ordering the genders within society. How often is it remarked here that 'Islam was right about women'?

Contrast what Catholicism does in terms of civics/social order with what paganism does. No, you do not get to reverse-assimilate the benefits of Christianity to paganism! For the pagans, women were venerated, held on high with the same religious role as males in the priesthood. They were diviners who often engaged in group sex rituals in order to receive indications from God. This 'drawing down' of God into the world (really, a forcing) through her sexuality is a distinct part of the feminine aspects of occult belief, held in high esteem by Jewish esoteric groups such as the freemasons.

So you, modern pagan, observe the world and cry out "Look how the Jew confuses gender categories and blurs lines which have kept our society together!" Yet, your pagan tradition would have possessed no basis whatsoever for protesting such 'subversions'.

You want a Christian morality dressed in pagan clothes, because you wear your religion like a badge on your jacket. You'll unite nothing and nobody with these lukewarm principles. Christianity is not a foreign religion - it is Europe.


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[ - ] Lordbananafist 6 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 12:06:08 ago (+6/-0)

lol

literally debate it after the kikes are dead. Fucking dumb bastard.

[ - ] CHIRO [op] -3 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 12:16:55 ago (+0/-3)

Thanks for the comment. It was well-written.

[ - ] Lordbananafist 4 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 12:28:56 ago (+4/-0)

It wasn’t a complicated problem. It’s actually super fucking easy.

[ - ] CHIRO [op] -2 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 14:01:53 ago (+0/-2)

I guess you didn't assess the sarcasm.

'Super fucking easy'.

Just kill the kikes, haha.

What does it mean that it's 'super easy' and you've not taken one step toward doing it?

[ - ] Lordbananafist 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 14:06:40 ago (+1/-0)

eliminating slow-walker propaganda on the internet is a physical act.

we don't have to debate "x" for period of time "y" now. therefore less time until you die.

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 14:20:07 ago (+0/-0)

So now 'killing' is downvoting? Teehee.

Brilliant.

And I see you've picked up the nigger trend of not capitalizing the start of your sentences. Thanks for making this place more like Twitter. Take the two seconds required to write with proper grammar. This site is embarrassing sometimes.

Leave it to a chimp to include banana in his username.

[ - ] AryanPrime 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 15:15:00 ago (+0/-0)

"And I see you've picked up the nigger trend of not capitalizing the start of your sentences. "


You don't start a sentence with the word "and". You sound like a dumb kike trying to promote gaslighting against the real Christian faith while pretending to advocate for it

For example, you call Jesus an "ethnic jew" therefore, you are trying to push the kiked version of christian history where kikes pretend Jesus was one of them to gain favour with Whites so we don't slaughter them, thinking they are one of "christ's people"

Which isn't true at all, kikes are khazars, khazars converted in 742AD, they have nothing to do with the people in any of the religions outside of talmudism. Which is superimposed over the Old testament so it's very hard to seperate the two out at this point.

This is why we know you are a kike. You claim "the people of israel" were khazarian kikes, when they were Whites, not kikes. That is a basic fundamental component of the kike lie, and without that subversive fact accepted as truth, the entire "Muh chosen people" lie falls apart

Christians are the true Chosen people of God, kikes are the "pharisee" spoken of in the Bible, which itself has been usurped to a degree by kikes, but not nearly as bad as the OT has been.

Yiddish is what kikes speak, they are not, nor do they speak Hebrew. It is all concocted off of false documents "proving" their "heritage" to continue the grift.

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 15:56:10 ago (+0/-0)

It's perfectly fine to start a sentence with 'And'.

Jesus was from the region of Galilee. There's no disputing this. He physical body was ethnically Semitic; but this is not relevant. What Jesus preached and prophesied was not Jewish. Whether he was light skinned or not, I don't particularly care. But the notion of a blonde-haired blue-eyed Jesus is probably not the case. Impossible? No. The point is that I don't care. The heritage of his genetic accidentals are not what's relevant.

The Talmud Yerushalmi was based around the core Mishnah, which was written around the turn of the 3rd century, and the Yerushalmi was not completely until about a century and one half later. Talmud is a Semitic work, not a Khazar work.

It's possible that east European Jews have a distinct Khazar element after the 8th century. The east European Jews are a different animal. Jews are not a homogenous group. They are a scattering of people affiliated by common ethnocentric belief and similar social strategies.

[ - ] AryanPrime 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2022 09:04:03 ago (+0/-0)

1) no it isn't "fine" to start a sentence with the word and, you learned that shit in 3rd grade, only a filthy lying kike or a retarded nigger would say what you just said, since you are obsessed with Jesus, i'm guessing filthy inbred khazar kike

Semetic = code word for "Ancient White people" your people are nothing more then history thieves and name stealers, we all know this.

"blonde hair blue eyed" See how obsessive the kike is with beautiful White phenotypical presentations...they covet that blonde hair and those blue eyes so very constantly that everytime they are forced to envision them in their head they get filled with kike rage and need to promote lies about their target in that moment

"The talmud" is a disgusting book justifying child rape for kikes over real human beings, it's an inferior ideology, fed to an inferior people, who should be kicked out this planet with their inferior genetics

You are everything you falsely pretend to hate kike, you are fooling no one and your "Jesus was a jew" arguments are fucking pathetically weak.

Fucking stupid kike wants to pretend it knows something when it can't even figure out basic English grammar LMFAO.

Fuck off and don't ever reply to me you inbred gaslighting shiksa

[ - ] AryanPrime 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2022 09:06:10 ago (+0/-0)

Talmud is a Semitic work, not a Khazar work.

No it isn't, no matter how many times you kikes rewrite history to suit your fake narratives it doesn't make it so, just face it kike, we all hate you, all of humanity hates you and has been deep diving on your claims for the last 3 decades, we've proven enough to ourselves to know kikes like you gaslight people constantly and our only true option to be free from you is to find every kike like you through DNA testing and erase kike DNA from the planet

Get ready for some fun kike, we are done entertaining your arguments as if they are legitimate, you are usurpers, you are kikes, you are the enemy, to be eradicated on sight

[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 13:25:28 ago (+1/-0)

The Jew does not claim to do evil against Odin. The Jew gnashes his teeth and snarls at Christ.

Because smooth brains have adopted a jew creation myth as their narrative.

Christianity is not a foreign religion

(((Christianity))) is unreservedly, provably, without question, a Semitic-based religion, it is Judaism for export.

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 13:57:14 ago (+0/-0)

Because smooth brains have adopted a Jew creation myth as their narrative.

Why couldn't paganism endure the rise of any Abrahamic faith?

(((Christianity))) is unreservedly, provably, without question, a Semitic-based religion, it is Judaism for export.

You just restate the claim my post argued against, saying you can prove it, without proving it. Christianity is different than Judaism. It is far more than Judaism for export; it is diametrically opposed to Judaism. If all you're saying is that the Bible had Semitic origins, I already addressed this. It's a trivial point.

[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 14:12:34 ago (+1/-0)

It did, until Kikestians forcefully "converted" the pagans and heathens that the mudslimes didn't kill. Shitbag spiritual semites tolerated a number of shitskin incursions in Europe before they got around to fighting the arab invaders.

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 14:25:06 ago (+0/-0)*

The majority of pagan tribes encountered by Catholics in Europe converted willingly, or slowly assimilated with Christianity over time in order to gain access to commerce.

You're not helping your case if your strong pagan people can be forced to do anything.

These are 'tree by its fruits' arguments. Catholicism did things to people that made them do civilization better. Pagan revival is like asking to return to the same situation that made us so easily 'convertible'. If you didn't notice, conversion is our current problem. We've got no cohesive religious social structure, and instead a mosaic of vague designer spirituality with lofty liberal morals, and we're fragmented.

Christianity and Islam are the only forces on the planet that have ever withstood Jewish influence for a substantial amount of time. Though I don't endorse the Islamic faith personally, I'd say they've done a purer job of it than Catholicism. Catholicism started to grow vulnerable in the middle ages when monarchs got sweet on Jewish financing. Catholic rulers caved to privileging Jewish usury especially in England and France, whereas Islam held its ground.

You'll also note the 'moment' Catholicism in southern Europe 'got strong' and held off the Islamic invasions, was a few centuries before the Jews had to be forcefully cleared from southern Europe, at which point they migrated north and east, especially into Denmark/Belgium/Germany. Within a century you had the Protestant schism. Is it any coincidence that we can trace Jewish movement through Europe with where the Church was being attacked most prominently?

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 14:48:24 ago (+0/-0)

You are fake news. It was convert or die. After fending off shitskins by themselves, the kikestians attempted to finish the job. Fuck off and die, Semite scum.

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 15:59:46 ago (+0/-0)

So the pagans fought off the Muslims and then Christianity swooped in to convert 'em while they were weak?

This is a fine fiction you have going here.

[ - ] Reawakened 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 16:13:18 ago (+1/-0)

Not only do they not know history, they can't even figure out the chronology. Pitiful.

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 21:36:42 ago (+0/-0)

Quit being retarded. The first Crusades weren't fought against the Muslims.

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2022 09:15:19 ago (+0/-0)

Who are you arguing the first Crusades were fought against?

There isn't any historical disagreement here, so if this isn't a fiction you're writing, you should probably support what you're saying.

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2022 15:39:39 ago (+0/-0)

They were fought against heathen Europeans.

[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 23:30:51 ago (+0/-0)

Why couldn't paganism endure the rise of any Abrahamic faith?

Because all religion is a cope and with more that we understand about the origins and place of all things in the natural world, the less we can attribute to mysticism.

Also judiasm for export/Christianity was a tax scam, it has been covered umpteenth times in other posts on this very forum.

You just restate the claim my post argued against, saying you can prove it, without proving it.

Do you know what a schism is?

What % of the bible is 1:1 copy of jew holy books. I'll wait whilst you do the math.

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2022 10:24:34 ago (+0/-0)*

Because all religion is a cope and with more that we understand about the origins and place of all things in the natural world, the less we can attribute to mysticism.

A psychological explanation doesn't negate the existence of the thing being explained. Food is a cope; food exists. Romantic feelings and human love cause physiological changes that, under the right theory, could be explained as coping; still, those things exist. Almost everything that is good and which we are capable of interacting with meaningfully has features that could be called coping features. If life is bad, and there are good things, then whatever makes them good will be called 'a cope'. But to qualify these phenomena as only a cope is a choice, to deny the reality of goodness.

What remains when you psychologize all of these things? Circularity. If nothing good is real except insofar as it promotes a cope, then the implicit proposition is that reality can only be neutral or evil. You can't claim evil because you've denied the good. So your only course of action is to deny any values or moral properties in reality.

But this will not get you where you want to go, because your argument relies on life being bad enough to require psychological coping. Therefore we can ask: what needs coping with? You'll be forced to acknowledge suffering. But why can't I call suffering as illusory as goodness? Maybe if you say good things are COPE, then I say bad things are its opposite: ~COPE.

But if COPE pertains to illusory things, then ~COPE pertains to illusory things, by definition. Yet, you'd not want to say that badness isn't a reality in the world. It is real. But you've not given me any reason to think that the things which oppose suffering are not real. Again, love and close bonds are something that promote coping, and yet they're very real. If religion promotes coping, this fact alone does nothing to say that the object of religious belief (God) isn't real.

What you really want to say is that there are not rational grounds for believing in the existence of God. But this is wrong. There are strong rational reasons for belief in the existence of God. If you don't think so, please provide a refutation of the Kalam cosmological argument.

There is not a single feature of contemporary scientific theories that makes it less rational to believe in God. Science does cause us not to attribute proximal causes of physical phenomena directly to God. I don't have to believe that the sun is an actual god. We have nuclear and astro- physics. Despite this, there are other domains of physics that have made explanation in the language of physics even more elusive.

Do you know what a schism is?

Do you know what a hot dog is?

It seems like you just tossed the kitchen sink at me by saying: Protestantism exists, or Orthodoxy exists. Do the Catholics know about this? And you mean to tell me they didn't stop what they were doing when they realized the Old Testament was written by Semites?

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 13, 2022 10:27:34 ago (+0/-0)

Also, I'm noticing that parts of both your comments and mine are not showing up inside the actual thread. It looks like only one paragraph after each quoted section is displayed, but my full comment is displayed when I view it in my own profile or in the editing window. I'm not sure what's causing that, or if you are noticing the same thing. I just wanted to let you know because my reply from a moment ago is missing content when viewed in the thread.

[ - ] gaybeeye 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 19:00:41 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 19:23:00 ago (+0/-0)

The trinity does not specify three gods. This is sheer misunderstanding of Catholic doctrine.

I don't hand wave away these kinds of concerns. I get it. These subjects are massively difficult, but the attacks on Catholic polytheism are flatly wrong.

[ - ] gaybeeye 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 19:42:48 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 19:52:44 ago (+0/-0)

I'm willing to check these videos out. Like I said, I don't handwave this stuff away. I've seen or heard about every attack on the Catholic church ever levied. They all fail.

In terms of the use of the term 'Catholic', it was used by St. Ignatius in early 2nd century AD; this is long before any esoteric group like the masons ever applied it to their 'universal church'. As I said, if there is one true religion, then it is true universally. Of course challengers to that claim would call themselves universal. The claim that one has universal truth is not a unique identifier.

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 14:43:46 ago (+0/-0)

TOO GAY: DIDNT READ

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 15:46:49 ago (+0/-0)

Finally a sensible reply.

[ - ] Reawakened -1 points 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 13:08:47 ago (+1/-2)

They always ignore Matthew 21:43

Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

[ - ] CHIRO [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 12, 2022 15:47:35 ago (+1/-0)

Wonderful bunch we've got here, eh.