The experts came on to refute them, using any debate point and trick they had - never addressed basic points, just ad hominems and disparaging sources for not being TRUE experts (no true scotsman fallacy). The audience was not convinced, but went home with some cognitive dissonance.
The essence of the crowd was "people DIED! what does it matter how?" and the essence of the speakers was "if it doesn't matter, why are being told lies about gas chambers? Why not just say 'died of hunger'? And why attack me for saying it was hunger, not gassings?"
That show today couldn't be aired because it is probably illegal to be broadcast in too many countries.
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 3 yearsApr 11, 2022 09:37:20 ago (+1/-0)
He explained what happened when he became David Stein instead of David Cole. Some jew mafia guy was threatening to kill him, so he completely renounced all of his views and changed his name to Stein. The jewish mafia guy died in prison, and his life as "Stein" came to and end when he was outed as David Cole.
But since the mafia guy is dead, and polite society rejected him after he was outed, he has no reason to hide his views anymore. And he doesn't -- he maligns blacks and leftist jews in equal measure. And he stands by his position that Auschwitz is a proven fraud. But he explains in detail why he doesn't go with the complete "Holohoax" narrative. So does Mark Weber:
"No informed person disputes that Europe's Jews did, in fact, suffer a great catastrophe during the Second World War. Millions were forced from their homes and deported to brutal internment in crowded ghettos and camps. Jewish communities across Central and Eastern Europe, large and small, were wiped out. Millions lost their lives. When the war ended in 1945, most of the Jews of Germany, Poland, the Netherlands and others countries were gone."
It's actually pretty reasonable and they do a good job of summarizing the key points and why they matter. I didn't expect them to be able to even get more than a few sentences out before the host would shut them down.
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[ - ] cyclops1771 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2022 08:51:11 ago (+0/-0)
The essence of the crowd was "people DIED! what does it matter how?" and the essence of the speakers was "if it doesn't matter, why are being told lies about gas chambers? Why not just say 'died of hunger'? And why attack me for saying it was hunger, not gassings?"
That show today couldn't be aired because it is probably illegal to be broadcast in too many countries.
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[ - ] chrimony 1 point 3 yearsApr 11, 2022 04:55:35 ago (+1/-0)
https://www.takimag.com/article/denial_is_dead_david_cole/
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But since the mafia guy is dead, and polite society rejected him after he was outed, he has no reason to hide his views anymore. And he doesn't -- he maligns blacks and leftist jews in equal measure. And he stands by his position that Auschwitz is a proven fraud. But he explains in detail why he doesn't go with the complete "Holohoax" narrative. So does Mark Weber:
https://www.ihr.org/weber_revisionism_jan09.html
"No informed person disputes that Europe's Jews did, in fact, suffer a great catastrophe during the Second World War. Millions were forced from their homes and deported to brutal internment in crowded ghettos and camps. Jewish communities across Central and Eastern Europe, large and small, were wiped out. Millions lost their lives. When the war ended in 1945, most of the Jews of Germany, Poland, the Netherlands and others countries were gone."
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